If you fall off and cheat....

[ConstantCraving]

even if only cheat once do you start induction all over again or stay at the rung of OWL you are at when you fell? Time marches on and I've fallen off this WOE a few times but keep trying to get up and stay in the saddle.

I had a successful induction, staying legal and no cheats what so ever but I've had, at the most, an evening of cheats. Biiiiiiig cheats but of short duration. I went out of visible stix ketosis as soon as I went up to rung 1 of OWL. Kept losing slowly though.

[boonie stomper]

Re: If you fall off and cheat....

Dr. Atkins says in the OWL section you CAN go back into induction for a few days, to pick things back up.

[not2late]

Re: If you fall off and cheat....

even if only cheat once do you start induction all over again or stay at the rung of OWL you are at when you fell? Time marches on and I've fallen off this WOE a few times but keep trying to get up and stay in the saddle.

I had a successful induction, staying legal and no cheats what so ever but I've had, at the most, an evening of cheats. Biiiiiiig cheats but of short duration. I went out of visible stix ketosis as soon as I went up to rung 1 of OWL. Kept losing slowly though.

As what Boonie said. If you fall off OWL, you pick up where you left off or you can drop to Induction level carbs for a few days to get back into ketosis, then back to where you left off.

I'm concerned that you stopped registering on the ketostix after you added 5 net carbs of Induction vegetables to your menu. See, the stix will measure for most people until about 40-50 net carbs daily. Then the stix might stop turning.

So, I have to ask you, when you did add 5 net carbs of Induction vegetables to your menu, what did you add and were you measuring and counting those 5 net carbs properly? In fact, post your OWL Rung 1 menu for review.

[ConstantCraving]

Re: If you fall off and cheat....

Even at 20 carbs a day I registered only a trace on the keto sticks but I lost well during induction...12 lbs! Up five veggie carbs and no pink!

My son is eating on this WOE with me and we are doing our menus together and doing Fitday together too, following the book. It's become a coffee table book is is referred to often. He is dark purple on his sticks.

Here is a yesterday from my Fitday.
Food Name
Amount
Unit
Cals
Fat (g)
Carbs (g)
Prot (g)
Delete


Total
1,592
127.8
24.6
79.3

Egg, whole, fried
cupeggextra largejumbolargemediumsmallgramskglboz175
13.5
0.9
12.5
Butter
cuptablespoonindividual containerpatGuideline amount per slice of bread/rollgramskglboz34
3.8
0.0
0.0
Cream, light, fluid
cupfl ozindividual containerGuideline amount per fl oz of beveragegramskglboz58
5.8
1.1
0.8
oopsie rolls
servinggramskglboz85
7.5
0.6
4.0
Franks beef farmer sausage 100gms
servinggramskglboz64
3.6
0.0
7.2
havarti chesse
servinggramskglboz140
12.0
1.0
0.0
Cream, light, fluid
cupfl ozindividual containerGuideline amount per fl oz of beveragegramskglboz29
2.9
0.5
0.4
Splenda
servinggramskglboz0
0.0
2.0
0.0
Cream, heavy, fluid
cupfl ozGuideline amount per fl oz of beveragegramskglboz77
8.3
0.6
0.5
Tea, unsweetened
fl ozmug (8 fl oz)teacup (6 fl oz)gramskglboz5
0.0
1.5
0.0
Tomatoes, raw
cupcup, cherry tomatocup, chopped or slicedoz, raw, yieldsItalian tomatocherrylarge whole (3" dia)medium whole (2-3/5" dia)medium slice (1/4" thick)plum tomatosmall whole (2-2/5" dia)thick/large slice (1/2" thick)wedge (1/4 of medium tomato)thin/small slicegrape tomatogramskglboz11
0.1
2.4
0.5
Cucumber, raw
cupcup, pared, choppedcup, slicedcup, unpared, choppedoz, raw, yieldslarge (8-1/4" long)slicesmall (6-3/8" long)stick, 4" longmedium (7" long)gramskglboz3
0.0
0.6
0.2
Lettuce, cos or romaine, raw
cup shreddedleaf innerleaf outerheadservinggramskglboz12
0.2
2.3
0.9
Cheese
cupcubic inchslicegramskglboz99
7.6
1.3
6.3
Salad dressing
cuptablespoonpacketgramskglboz120
12.0
0.0
0.3
Ground beef, lean, cooked
cup, cookedcup, raw, yield cookedoz, cookedoz, raw (yield after cooking)cubic inch, cookedcubic inch, raw (yield after cooking)cocktail meatballlarge meatballlarge patty (5.3 oz, raw, 3 patties per lb) (yield after cooking)medium meatballmedium patty (4 oz, raw, 4 patties per lb) (yield after cooking)small meatballsmall patty (3.33 oz, raw, 5 patties per lb) (yield after cooking)gramskglboz229
15.0
0.0
21.7
Cauliflower, cooked, from fresh
cupcup, floweretscup, piecesfloweretlarge head (6-7" dia)medium head (5-6" dia)small head (4" dia)gramskglboz54
3.7
4.5
2.0
Celery, raw
cupcup, dicedcup, stripsoz, raw, yieldslarge stalk (11" - 12" long)medium stalk (7-1/2" - 8" long)small stalk (5" long)strip or stick (4" long)gramskglboz13
0.1
2.4
0.6
Cheese, cream
cuptablespoontablespoon, whippedcubic inchindividual containersmall package (3 oz)gramskglboz101
10.1
0.8
2.2
Funks pork farmers sausage 100 gms
servinggramskglboz65
2.5
0.0
9.0
Cheese
cupcubic inchslicegramskglboz99
7.6
1.3
6.3
oopsie rolls
servinggramskglboz85
7.5
0.6
4.0
Butter
cuptablespoonindividual containerpatGuideline amount per slice of bread/rollgramskglboz34
3.8
0.0
0.0


Total
1,592
127.8
24.6
79.3



Calories

Nutrition

%-RDA/AI Graph

Cal. Balance

Custom Nutrition Goals



GramsCalories%-Cals
Calories
1,592


Fat127.8
1,139
73
%Saturated51.8
459
30
%Polyunsaturated9.1
81
5
%Monounsaturated35.8
319
21
%Carbohydrate24.6
93
6
%Dietary Fiber6.2



Protein79.3
322
21
%Alcohol0.0
0
0
%
Fat
(73
%)Carbs
(6
%)Protein
(21
%)Alcohol
(0
%)Description

[not2late]

Re: If you fall off and cheat....

If you have been losing weight, then I wouldn't worry about it. The ketostix measure "excess" ketones that you have in your body. Our bodies can use ketones for energy. So you might just be using what you are making, so you don't have any excess to pee out.