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    sugar alcohols

    My mom and I had a discussion about sugar alcohols in gum. Can some one please help?

    My mom showed me her gum and it had 2 carbs and 2 sugar alcohols. She says that she counts it as O carbs. I say you have to count it as 1 carb. Who is correct? My mother or I?
    iamran


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    Re: sugar alcohols

    Either or both of you could be right. If chewing a couple of pieces of the gum causes digestive distress, then you probably can count it as zero. If it does nothing to your tummy, you are probably absorbing all of the carbs. One thing new research has proved is that we absorb way more of sugar alcohols that they admit.
    People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


    "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
    ~~Herodotus


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    • #3
      Re: sugar alcohols

      One thing new research has proved is that we absorb way more of sugar alcohols that they admit.
      I appreciate that info, Sunny. Was a bit confused about how sugar alcohols are digested... or not.
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      • #4
        Re: sugar alcohols

        The newest research suggests that we should count at least 50% of the carbs from sugar alcohols. I choose to not play around with mother nature.

        The molecules are supposed to be too big to be digested or absorbed, so they cause distress going through the intestines, causing gas and diarrhea like when you take in too much fiber at one time.

        Also, it has been proven that over time our digestive system adapts and finds a way to digest and absorb more and more.
        People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


        "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
        ~~Herodotus


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        • #5
          Re: sugar alcohols

          I was at Sams yesterday. They were giving out samples of the Atkins Indulge bars. The caramel nut sample was wonderful... but it reminded me far too much of cheating to be safe for me to eat.

          Your information is exactly what I needed to not be suckered in by temptation!
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          • #6
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            Yes, thank you for the information SunnySmile501 and hello to you both SunnySmile501 and Sunny_One!

            This is off of the subject but I'm so excited I'm about to bust. I went to a Chili Supper at my parents church tonight and I bought a treadmill at the silent auction for $31.00. It has alot of bells and whistles and even has incline!!!! Plus I ate tuna salad before I went and had nothing there! I was determined that I was not going to eat chili or dessert and go off plan. No way, no how!

            It's just in time for tomorrow when I start the 6WEC!!!!!! This was totally a blessing!
            iamran


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              Wow, iamran!!! You turned a potential landmine into a gold mine!

              Congratulations!
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              • #8
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                what about erythritol though? it's supposed to not cause digestive distress.
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                • #9
                  Re: sugar alcohols

                  i eat the advantage bars when im in a pinch, as well as the shakes, i know people who don't because it hurts their stomach, or causes problems I eat one w/ a salad if im in a rush, and they havent stopped my losses or bothered me one bit.





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                  • #10
                    Re: sugar alcohols

                    Originally posted by steady as she goes View Post
                    what about erythritol though? it's supposed to not cause digestive distress.
                    Erythritol is sort of a sugar alcohol of a different species. Maltitol, for instance, one of the most popular to use in "sugar free" candy, has a glycemic index of 52. Real sugar has a GI of 62--not a whole lot of difference. It will spike your blood sugar and requires an insulin response.

                    There are two SA's with a GI of zero, of which erythritol is one. Mannitol is the other. So far, the FDA is allowing food producers to ride the coattails of the current ruling on all sugar alcohols.


                    Maltitol crystals and/or syrup is one of the most commonly used sugar alcohols -- think Russel Stover chocolates. So they DO have a "significant" effect on blood sugars. Almost as much as regular table sugar. While erythritol and mannitol have NO EFFECT. And the others have "minimal" effect. So make sure you are checking the labels of the products that you buy and use, and especially steer clear of Maltitol, because not all sugar alcohols are the same.
                    People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


                    "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
                    ~~Herodotus


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                    • #11
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                      Sunnysmile, I was reading a thing on sugar alchohols over at about.com yesterday. They have a lot of info on low carb diets.

                      Anyway, I surely didn't know that about maltitol prior to reading the article over there. I was amazed. Yesterday at the grocery store I looked at the Russell Stover SF, which I've always eaten a lot!! Anyway, every bit of it was maltitol! But so was the Hershey's, Dove, and all of it.

                      That stuff will all be out for me but here's what makes me curious. All that SF candy absolutely tears me up. Nothing is worse than the Russell Stover SF peppermint patties. I mean IT'S BAD!!!! So, I'm wondering how to reconcile that with the fact that my body is absorbing it....

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by kellymch2006 View Post
                        Sunnysmile, I was reading a thing on sugar alchohols over at about.com yesterday. They have a lot of info on low carb diets.

                        Anyway, I surely didn't know that about maltitol prior to reading the article over there. I was amazed. Yesterday at the grocery store I looked at the Russell Stover SF, which I've always eaten a lot!! Anyway, every bit of it was maltitol! But so was the Hershey's, Dove, and all of it.

                        That stuff will all be out for me but here's what makes me curious. All that SF candy absolutely tears me up. Nothing is worse than the Russell Stover SF peppermint patties. I mean IT'S BAD!!!! So, I'm wondering how to reconcile that with the fact that my body is absorbing it....
                        If it weren't for maltitol having such an effect, it would have a higher GI than sugar--there is still plenty left over that is not absorbed. Maltitol is one the worst for digestive upset. It has the most potential for holding onto water due to poor absorption, which causes the diarrhea, and then the bacteria feast on it in the large intestine and colon, causing gas, bloating and cramping. Some sugar alcohols are absorbed (or not) in the small intestine and have less effect in the colon. Maltitol is just bad in all aspects.

                        As for your reaction to the mint patties in particular, I'd say it is something else in them to set you off.

                        The worst for me was some sour fruit candies. I bought them for a long trip I was taking, and decided to try a couple the night before. Good thing, because I didn't get to leave on the trip for another three days. Within an hour I was doubled over in pain, and my belly was so distended, I looked pregnant. I spent most of that night in the bathroom, and the next two recovering. I was so sore, I couldn't stand for clothing to touch my belly.

                        If I had waited to start eating them a couple of hours from home, I don't know what I would have done. From the first inkling that something was wrong, I didn't make it all the way to the bathroom before the explosive diarrhea hit me.

                        I have used Xylitol and erythritol with little problem, but I don't trust maltitol. I have had a few candies with maltitol without the problems that I had with the sour fruit candies, but it was still just too unpleasant to be worth it.
                        People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


                        "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
                        ~~Herodotus


                        Doin' the "Real Deal" Atkins 2002 since 9/15/2005
                        Sunny's Secrets: My Journal



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                        • #13
                          Re: sugar alcohols

                          Wow! I was glad to hear about malitol spiking your blood sugar. I'll have to watch which gum I chew when I do chew it.
                          iamran


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                          1st goal - make it to the end of the year with out a cheat!
                          45 days down - 24 days left!

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                          • #14
                            Re: sugar alcohols

                            No, it's not just the mint patties--they just seem to be the worst. I haven't had any sugar alcohols in two weeks and I was just thinking this morning that I couldn't remember the last time I had gas. Weird how much eating right is good on your system. ;-)

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