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    I am at day 15 and have lost just about 5 pounds. Rough first week (didn't lose much b/c I wasn't strictly following Induction rules - almonds, caffeine, Atkins bars). Atkins flu, Caffeine withdrawal. But now I feel awesome!! Not testing with ketosticks but pretty sure I am in ketosis.

    But the prospect of moving to OWL is making me nervous. Induction rules are so easy for me to manage. And I am wondering if I should spend another week on Induction since my first week wasn't "pure."

    Any insights, support, opinions?



    Began - March 27, 2008 - 37 yo/F/5'6"
    HW 178/ CW 164.2/ GW 135
    Mini Goals
    165 - Reached 5/3/09 (5 weeks)
    160
    155
    150
    145
    140
    135 (GOAL)

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    Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

    If you want to. That was what I did because like you I was not exactly clean starting out. You gave up caffeine - just like that? That is awesome. I had to wean myself but I am only on decaf now

    And yes it is normal to be nervous about OWL but OWL is a very important part and the first rung of OWL is just veggies. You cannot go wrong with veggies and you can stay there and experiment a while if you like.
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    • #3
      Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

      Originally posted by JenCarn View Post
      I am at day 15 and have lost just about 5 pounds. Rough first week (didn't lose much b/c I wasn't strictly following Induction rules - almonds, caffeine, Atkins bars). Atkins flu, Caffeine withdrawal. But now I feel awesome!! Not testing with ketosticks but pretty sure I am in ketosis.
      You've lose over 12% of what you want to lose. That is excellent! Most people lose between 5-10% during Induction, so you are above the average.

      Since you didn't have a clean first week, your degree of metabolic resistance will be overestimated if you compare your weight loss with the table on page 158 of DANDR. So while those 5 lbs put you in the "average resistance" category, you could actually have a low resistance to lipolysis. Extending the Induction period may be beneficial for those people who are metabolically resistant or have a lot to lose. You only have 35 lbs left to lose and your metabolic resistance is average-low.

      But the prospect of moving to OWL is making me nervous. Induction rules are so easy for me to manage. And I am wondering if I should spend another week on Induction since my first week wasn't "pure."
      As Liv said, you can choose to do another week of Induction if you wish. However, do not be disappointed if you do not see a big loss during this "extra" week -- many people experience a stall if they extend their Induction without having a lot to lose or without having a high degree of metabolic resistance.

      If you decide to move to OWL, first read/re-read Chapter 14 in DANDR. There are also sticky threads on the Board that might help you -- you'll find them in the "Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL)" forum.
      "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

      -- Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

        You have about the same amount of weight to lose as I do...I lost 6 pounds on induction but then gained 2 back! EEK! But I stayed on rung 1 for 2 weeks (I am on day 12 actually) and this morning I am down 4 pounds from yesterday....nothing scary about that!

        Since you don't have a lot to lose, I would move to OWL. The first rung is so much like induction but with more veggies, its really not much of a change. Good luck!
        Laurie



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        • #5
          Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

          Originally posted by liv View Post
          You gave up caffeine - just like that? That is awesome. I had to wean myself but I am only on decaf now
          LOL, No ... there was nothing "just like that" about it! I had been drinking 6-8 cans of diet pepsi each day (with no water) and in addition a cup of coffee most mornings. During week 1 I cut back to 2-3 cans of soda a day with lots of water. On day 7 I finally realized I had to drop the caffeine and aspartame so then I went "cold turkey" ... it was a rough 2-3 days in my house (irritable, horrible headache!) Feel great now! (Though I am asleep by 10pm every night where I used to be up til 11 easily).

          Of course in my mind I have so much to lose! (I am at my heaviest ever ... even more than my pregnancies). So to hear "you don't have much to lose" is surprising to me (and encouraging). Georgiana, my copy of DANDR is much dog-eared! I am scouring the OWL chapter carefully. And PC, you are right, first rung is so similar I should be able to handle that! (It is going to be the re-introduction of foods that is going to worry me!)

          Thanks all!!



          Began - March 27, 2008 - 37 yo/F/5'6"
          HW 178/ CW 164.2/ GW 135
          Mini Goals
          165 - Reached 5/3/09 (5 weeks)
          160
          155
          150
          145
          140
          135 (GOAL)

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          • #6
            Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

            Induction is very easy to manage.Been in it for 12 weeks and will continue.Wt continues to fall off at average of 3 lbs a week and goal is within sight.

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            • #7
              Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

              Originally posted by phil h View Post
              Induction is very easy to manage.Been in it for 12 weeks and will continue.Wt continues to fall off at average of 3 lbs a week and goal is within sight.
              What are your plans for after you reach goal? Will you then move through the rungs of OWL? Or jump to maintenance? But how will you know your carb level? [Trying to figure out my best path.]



              Began - March 27, 2008 - 37 yo/F/5'6"
              HW 178/ CW 164.2/ GW 135
              Mini Goals
              165 - Reached 5/3/09 (5 weeks)
              160
              155
              150
              145
              140
              135 (GOAL)

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              • #8
                Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                When I reach my goal I will continue doing the same I am now, very low carb.Tried moving up rungs before, never reached my goal, not even close,then gained it all back plus.Once my my caloric intake equilibrates, I will maintain my intrinsic weight.One big difference between this time and last is the way I have lost.Before, I looked like a smaller version of myself.A smaller pot belly with skinny arms and legs.Now I am not skinny any where, rathar lean all over.My belly is flat.I attribute that to the lower carb levels that I have maintained.Not sure what else it could be.I very much enjoy never being actually hungry.Just eating to re-fuel.

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                • #9
                  Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                  Phil's plan may work for him but it's not the way Dr. Atkins wrote it. I would suggest you move up the rungs and find your perfect number of carbs you can eat without gaining. Good luck to you
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                  • #10
                    Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                    Don't be nervous about adding foods. I mean, when you decide it's time. The extra food choice is awesome. I just started berries myself, and it is heavenly. It's going to be the thing that makes this WOE a lifetime choice, and not a diet I will stray from.
                    SW 187 / CW 164 / GW 140 - 5' 2" - 28 years old


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                    • #11
                      Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                      I left induction and lost a total of 3 lbs in two weeks lol went back on ...Im so stuck on 15lbs total I want to get out of 220 and move into the teens so bad I can taste it , I started walking hope that will help me yikes! I am like so into this woe that I really want to do this and I am commited but tonite I ate an atkins bar...double chocolate caramel crunch bar!! I hope I still do ok...
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                      • #12
                        Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                        Don't worry about leaving induction. What's the worst that can happen: you stall or gain a little weight. If you happen to go a bit overboard in the carb department you can always go back to an induction phase and begin again. It might be inconvenient to start over, but if push came to shove just know you can remedy the situation with a simple rinse/repeat. That said, it sounds like your induction has included a lot of "cheating" so I might suggest giving it another (solid) week if possible. It's pretty difficult to get through, if it's your first time, but doing it correctly really helps in the long run.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                          Originally posted by Diver Down View Post
                          Don't worry about leaving induction. What's the worst that can happen: you stall or gain a little weight. If you happen to go a bit overboard in the carb department you can always go back to an induction phase and begin again. It might be inconvenient to start over, but if push came to shove just know you can remedy the situation with a simple rinse/repeat.
                          If one would have to restart Induction every time he/she sees a stall or a gain during OWL, most of us would be on Induction forever. What you have to do in case your weight loss stalls is to take one step back -- either drop the last food you've added or cut back 5 net carbs, depending which of these was the last thing you've changed. Restarting Induction over and over again would never allow one to progress through all the Atkins phases and do the Diet correctly.
                          "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

                          -- Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            Re: Nervous about leaving Induction

                            Originally posted by Georgiana View Post
                            If one would have to restart Induction every time he/she sees a stall or a gain during OWL, most of us would be on Induction forever.
                            I never said they would have to go back to induction; that's crazy. I just pointed out that going back to induction is always an option, especially directed to the original poster since they've had a bumpy ride of it with all the caffeine, carb bars, and other indulgences.

                            My actual suggestion was to give induction another week, but in solid fashion. I'm of the belief a solid induction phase contributes to a noticeable difference in the initial weight loss and therefore provides the necessary self-confidence to move forward with the rest of the program.

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