Alcohol during induction

[Therion]

I am on day 6 of my induction and two nights I drank clean rum on the rocks chased by either Sprite Zero or water/lemon juice/Spenda and was wondering if I screwed up the diet by doing this?

Second question, I had a massive craving for something sweet so I mixed a cup of heavy cream with a packet of splenda and drank it as a "shake," is this bad to do on this diet? Thanks ahead of time.

According to the scale I lost five pounds so far.

[neutronnorman]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Water weight loss, followed by dehydration? Why! That's a solid way to lose five pounds. Rum is not bad, if you want to gain weight. If you're male, enjoy the testosterone suppression and its accompanying aromatization into estrogen esters that ROH provides, so you can really stretch out your love handles, and further accumulate fat stores over your chest area. Alcohol is also great for hypertension; it tends to raise it dramatically. A cup of heavy whipping cream is also fantastic for weight gain. I know the AD recommends 1-2 tablespoons per day, but the more the better. Well, when on a low carb phase of the AD, calories never count. They never count. On the AD, thermodynamics do not apply. You become fat burning engine with 100% efficiency. Vector2, are you out there? Help!

Cheez, is this a legitimate question or are you trying to be 'cute' and -off everybody on this board? If you drink rum Monday and Tuesday nights, there are better and frankly more helpful forums you should post on. People here are succeeding at becoming healthy, and aesthetically pleasing in their own eyes and society's as a whole. The majority are committed to undo the psychological and physiological barriers that have injured their self esteems through the years. These guys and gals are getting healthy and way surpassing and achieving goals that they thought were only possible in another life or whatever. They are disciplined. Discipline is the magic ingredient in achieving all your dreams and goals.

Norman




Norman

[neutronnorman]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Sorry Therion, I had a hard day and I should've realized you're new to AD. Read the book. And most importantly, learn from all the pros here. Read their posts. In these forums, you'll find centuries of accumulated knowledge.

Hey Vector2, was I close in my 'order of magnitude' estimation (back of the envelope calculation- Fermi) about the centuries bit?

[Therion]

Re: Alcohol during induction

So I take it it that I sabotaged the diet effort by drinking even though it was zero carb alcohol with zero carb chaser? NO my goal was not to piss anyone off but find out, no use in continueing a diet I screwed up the first place.


I drank a cup of the cream because it said "zero carbs" on the back.


I guess I failed.

[neutronnorman]

Re: Alcohol during induction

You didn't fail, buddy. Nobody fails if they learn by mistakes. It's not a zero carb diet, although that's a common perception. Read the book and do a little research on the web. Read .orgs and not .coms.

Later,
Norman

[Therion]

Re: Alcohol during induction

You didn't fail, buddy. Nobody fails if they learn by mistakes. It's not a zero carb diet, although that's a common perception. Read the book and do a little research on the web. Read .orgs and not .coms.

Later,
Norman

Well given the 20 grams of carbs you are supposed to eat during induction are supposed to come mainly from a salad it pretty much is a "zero carb" diet. I did read the book, albeit a few years ago.

[OzLover]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Dig out your book & reread it! Alcohol is not on the Induction list of foods~~not allowed until Rung 5. Heavy cream is limited to 3 Tbsp per day. Even though packaging states 0 carbs that is not correct. In the DANDR in the back is a list of foods with the carb count. You can also go to Fitday.com to get accurate information. Hope this helps!

[Therion]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Dig out your book & reread it! Alcohol is not on the Induction list of foods~~not allowed until Rung 5. Heavy cream is limited to 3 Tbsp per day. Even though packaging states 0 carbs that is not correct. In the DANDR in the back is a list of foods with the carb count. You can also go to Fitday.com to get accurate information. Hope this helps!

I realize that, that is why I am asking how much I screwed up the diet by drinking it. The cream thing, same thing.

[ziggy]

Re: Alcohol during induction

ya when cream says it has 0 carbs it really has like 1 carb per 15 ml or something

but on some creams they tell you by 10 ml and since 10 ml does not add up too 1 carb they list it as 0 when its really 0.6 its pretty annoying xD

ya alcohal is not allowed till Rung 5 thats pretty far off

even if the alcohal is 0 carbs your body still switches its fat burning to alcohal burning so you will not lose any fat till the alcohal you drank is burned away

[Therion]

Re: Alcohol during induction

ya when cream says it has 0 carbs it really has like 1 carb per 15 ml or something

but on some creams they tell you by 10 ml and since 10 ml does not add up too 1 carb they list it as 0 when its really 0.6 its pretty annoying xD

ya alcohal is not allowed till Rung 5 thats pretty far off

even if the alcohal is 0 carbs your body still switches its fat burning to alcohal burning so you will not lose any fat till the alcohal you drank is burned away

Thanks Zigs, that is what I wanted to know.

[ziggy]

Re: Alcohol during induction

also i just checked your on day 6 so you may have the induction flu for a few days longer than normal cause of the alcohal cause your metabolism was interrupted while switching from a glucose burning metabolism to a fat burning metabolism

[msanjelpie]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Yes you screwed up but don't use that as an excuse to quit the diet... learn and carry on

[sadie147]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Yes you screwed up but don't use that as an excuse to quit the diet... learn and carry on

I agree, just take it as a learning experience and continue on with your induction.

Alcohol will also give false positive readings on ketostix as well.

As for the cream, as was mentioned by a couple of people it is limited, as is cheese. They are a couple of foods IMO you need to be careful with as it is easy to go overboard with them. And they are calorie dense. Dr. Atkins did not say calories don't count, he said 'dont count calories' I think this is why foods like these are limited as they can add up very quickly and derail your progress.

[adreliluc]

Re: Alcohol during induction

Trust me... follow the book!
I learned the hard way.. lol
If nothing else, at least give yourself a clean 2 weeks on induction. Just by doing that you can see how your body will react to certain foods/drinks.

I personally wouldn't say you ruined anything. Maybe just slowed things down a bit.

I've been off induction forever now... when I do drink I actually drink rum and diet coke, wine or michelobe ultra.. But again, I have learned the hard way about following the book, following the rungs, etc. it makes ALL the difference!!

As to the cream, that is way too much... but I'm guilty of doing that myself. lol
The more you follow the program the better you'll do and feel..

Good luck!!

[vector2]

Re: Alcohol during induction

On the AD, thermodynamics do not apply. You become fat burning engine with 100% efficiency. Vector2, are you out there? Help!

Heh, I think you got this one locked up pretty well, bud I'm just glad you didn't scare the poor guy away with the power of science