Do stimuant drugs like adderall affect ketosis the way caffine does??

[Reici]

I take ADHD drugs and am having a hard time getting into ketosis. I was wondering if these drugs cause the same type of problem that caffine does.

How long should it take to get into ketosis if everything was "normal"?

[Georgiana]

Re: Do stimuant drugs like adderall affect ketosis the way caffine does??

I've changed the order of your questions a little. Hope you don't mind...

How long should it take to get into ketosis if everything was "normal"?

It depends, but typically is 2-4 days.

I take ADHD drugs and am having a hard time getting into ketosis.

How do you measure ketosis? With ketostix? Ketostix only measure the concentration of excess acetoacetate (one type of ketone, the other two being acetone and beta-hydroxybutyric acid) that is spilled over in your urine. If the concentration is below the detection threshold of the stix or if you simply have no excess acetoacetate, then the color of the stix won't change although you would be in ketosis. The color may stop changing if, for example, you increase your exercise (you use more ketones for fuel) or you drink a lot of water (the concentration may decrease below the detection threshold) or, later on in your Atkins journey, get to eat more than 50 g carbs. Similarly, you can make those stix (more) pink/purple if you change your sources of fat from long chain triglycerides to short & medium chain triglycerides.

But as I've said, just because your pee doesn't change the color of the ketostix, it does not mean you are not in ketosis. Physical signs of ketosis (sweet/metalic taste in your mouth, "funny" smell of your pee, increased energy, thirst, etc.) are more reliable.

I was wondering if these drugs cause the same type of problem that caffine does.

Caffeine will not affect ketosis. The only thing caffeine does is stimulate insulin release, which can interfere with your body's ability to mobilize fat as fuel, because insulin is a fat storing hormone. Caffeine also causes cravings for some folks, which may weaken one's ability to stick to the Atkins WOE. One should also check for the other signs of blood sugar instability if he/she decides to drink coffee, because cravings are only one of the possible symptoms (look at the test on pp. 150-151 of DANDR 2002).

[Georgiana]

Re: Do stimuant drugs like adderall affect ketosis the way caffine does??

BTW, were those lbs you've lost (written in your profile info) lost on Atkins?

[msanjelpie]

Re: Do stimuant drugs like adderall affect ketosis the way caffine does??

Adderall is a dextroamphetamine that works to enhance the effect of neurotransmitters called monoamines. Stimulants such as Adderall increase blood pressure and heart rate, constrict blood vessels, increase blood glucose, open up the pathways of the respiratory system and increase dopamine levels, which may create a sense of euphoria.

Nothing here suggests that it would affect ketosis... in fact, it sounds like it might help the weight loss along... Usually by the 4th day of induction you are in ketosis if there are no cheats...

[phil h]

Re: Do stimuant drugs like adderall affect ketosis the way caffine does??

I drink coffee with caffiene daily, several cups.I measure insulin by my hunger.Hunger is very much under control and have about 10-12 lbs to lose before being totally lean. So for me, caffiene is a non issue.Now a bite of cheese stimulates hunger so I avoid it.Same with anything that tastes sweet even if it is made with splenda. Same with most vegetables.It takes a while but you can become aware to what your body can or can't tolerate.