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    sorry about my ignorance of the diet I have a few questions. I only need to lose a few pounds to get back to what I want for next basketball season and I just have a few questions.

    I saw that many people often lose 5-10 pounds is that possible if your very close to your goal weight?

    I see your suppose to limit yourself to 20 net carbs a day, does that mean you can have as many carbs as you want as long as its under 20 net carbs?

    Will this diet effect results of weightlifting, i.e. will it make it so I won't gain as much muscle if I go on this diet?

    Also should I limit myself to Atkins bars to 1 a day because these are pretty good and I could eat a few of these a day easily

    would I be allowed to have Diet Cokes without caffiene?

    thanks in advance
    Last edited by afewquestions; July 5, 2009, 09:32 PM.

  • #2
    Re: a few questions

    Hmmm
    You did not really read the book I think.
    Here are some threads in our FAQ that will help you.
    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...induction.html (What are the Rules of Induction?)
    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...induction.html (What foods can be eaten on Induction?)
    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...lent-tips.html (A "MUST READ" for Newbies... 40 excellent tips!)

    I cannot really answer your questions. You provide very little info. What weight are you at? What do you want to weight? How tall are you? When does the basket ball season start?
    I think your muscles will be fine.
    Atkins bars are to be avoided
    Diet coke contains aspartame - a sweetener that is to be avoided.

    Hope that helps.
    Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

    May Challenges 2010
    Push-ups: 450/800
    Abs: 850/1900
    Squats: 650/1200
    Lunges: 500/1000
    Strength: 490/1200
    Running: 50/100 km


    2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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    • #3
      Re: a few questions

      I really appreciate the response, I have no idea why they make bars if they are suppose to be avoided though. I'll be sure to read what you sent me and I'll ask questions if needed.

      most of the stuff I looked at there I had read earlier, I'm just making sure that I'm counting right.

      Because the bars I bought have 22 grams of carbs but 2 grams of net carbs does that mean I could have like 170 grams of carbs as long as its under 20 net carbs?

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      • #4
        Re: a few questions

        Well that is a bit complicated about the bars.
        The company that makes them and who has the right to use the Atkins name is a commercial company trying to survive on products (sexy products according to their website) But we have found that many stall with those bars so they are best avoided till after induction.

        remember 20 carbs but most of them from veggies.
        Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

        May Challenges 2010
        Push-ups: 450/800
        Abs: 850/1900
        Squats: 650/1200
        Lunges: 500/1000
        Strength: 490/1200
        Running: 50/100 km


        2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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        • #5
          Re: a few questions

          well considering I only have 5-10 pounds to lose till I'm back to what I use to be could I just start on OWL

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          • #6
            Re: a few questions

            Have you looked at the south beach diet? That might be a better alternative.

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            • #7
              Re: a few questions

              Use the anabolic and / or metabolic diet by Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale. You are an athlete and so am I. Google it. You will gain muscle while losing fat at an accelerated rate. I use the Anabolic diet and the anabolic solution exclusively. You'll never gain muscle, in fact, you will lose lean mass after a few weeks on ketosis.
              sigpic Me, at 195 lb. September 24, 2009. It's 5:30 a.m. and can't wait to hit the coffee.

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              • #8
                Re: a few questions

                What is your source for the info about losing lean mass on ketosis Norman?
                Are you saying this would happen if you exercised?
                Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

                May Challenges 2010
                Push-ups: 450/800
                Abs: 850/1900
                Squats: 650/1200
                Lunges: 500/1000
                Strength: 490/1200
                Running: 50/100 km


                2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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                • #9
                  Re: a few questions

                  You'll never gain muscle, in fact, you will lose lean mass after a few weeks on ketosis.


                  What I meant is that if you calorie restrict, for every pound of weight loss, 10% is muscle and 90% is fat. If a person trains intensely, a carefully planned CKD can actually cause a small, gradual increase in Lean body mass and also a small, gradual loss of fat. The average weight trainer needs 200-300 calories more than that burned by BMR plus activity. Remember, Atkins worked mostly with individuals who were obese and needed to shed many pounds. Does this apply to and average lifter that is squatting 1.5-2.0 times his / her body weight?

                  Atkins is the way to go for individuals wanting to lose fat, gain a little bit of muscle and control fat deposition their entire live. Many have remarked here that they were happy to walk up a flight of stairs, etc. I applaud them. But the Atkins diet won't work for competitive or elite athletes trying to gain upwards of 50 lb of muscle. In my opinion, and from what I've read so far, it's far better to reach a low body fat percentage then increase calories until the individual is maximizing lean tissue gains while minimizing fat accumulation. Unfortunately, the magic number appears to be about 10% body fat in males.

                  Something else that is over looked. Insulin among the low carb dieters is considered an enemy, of sorts. Yet insulin is very, very anabolic used in the proper way from time to time. I'll be honest, I'm here at this forum to gain an edge on the low carb cycles that I do 5-6 days per week. What I've learned here is of great value. For all out there that are not even close to reaching your "ideal" weights, stick with the Atkins plan. It works far better than any other diet out there.
                  sigpic Me, at 195 lb. September 24, 2009. It's 5:30 a.m. and can't wait to hit the coffee.

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                  • #10
                    Re: a few questions

                    I was looking for some sources - research - is there any out there?
                    Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

                    May Challenges 2010
                    Push-ups: 450/800
                    Abs: 850/1900
                    Squats: 650/1200
                    Lunges: 500/1000
                    Strength: 490/1200
                    Running: 50/100 km


                    2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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                    • #11
                      Re: a few questions

                      I appreciate all the responses and I have not checked on any other diets really, just I ate alot during basketball season and when it ended I ate the same way and wasn't as active and only need to drop a few to get back to what I was. I just saw so much accelerated weight loss and was thinking this could just be a easy week long thing to drop a few pounds. I looked at the Metabolic Diet and I'm not really interested and I'm skeptical because I've never heard of it.

                      I am not happy about wasting $17 on a few atkins shakes and bars either.

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                      • #12
                        Re: a few questions

                        Since your so close to goal,you may not see a lot of weight loss during Induction. I suggest reading the book and sticking to what it says. Its not just eating 20carbs of whatever you want. You can do that,but its not Atkins.

                        Though technically the shakes and bars are induction friendly, we just don't really recommend them cause we like to promote whole foods and they normally have the tendency to stall many. Good luck!
                        F/5'5


                        SW-180
                        CW-160
                        GW-135




                        -20lbs
                        5 inches gone so far

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                        • #13
                          Re: a few questions

                          You don't have to waste the bars and shakes if you want to keep them - their ingredients mean they are not an induction-allowed food, but can be used later on once you reach the level/rung of the second phase of Atkins.

                          However do be careful to notice how they affect your body as some people have problems with them. So if you do decide to eat them maybe have only one every few days so you can see how your blood sugar symptoms and weightloss progress are affected by them
                          Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                          Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                          Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                          F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                          • #14
                            Re: a few questions

                            Originally posted by VGrace View Post

                            Though technically the shakes and bars are induction friendly

                            There are too many ingredients in the bars that aren't allowed on induction -- unlike what you said - here are the ingredients in just 1 of the bars - the things in red are just a few of the non-induction ingredients:

                            Atkins Advantage Chocolate Chip Granola Bar

                            Ingredients: soy nuggets (soy protein isolate, oat flour, calcium carbonate), glycerine, protein blend [hydrolyzed collagen, whey protein isolate (milk)], chocolate chips (lactitol, chocolate liquor, cocoa butter, soy lecithin, vanilla and acesulfame potassium), polydextrose, rolled oats, sunflower oil, palm kernel and palm oil, dry roasted soybeans, dehydrated coconut (sodium metabisulfite), cocoa powder (processed with alkali), roasted almonds, cellulose, natural and artificial flavor, soy lecithin, sucralose, acesulfame potassium. nutrition blend: tricalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, magnesium oxide, vitamin a palmitate, ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanocobalamin, alpha tocopheryl acetate, niacinamide, biotin, calcium pantothenate, zinc oxide, folic acid, chromium chelate, phytonadione, sodium selenite. contains: soy, milk, almonds and sulfites. This product is manufactured in a facility that uses peanuts, other nuts and seeds.

                            Here is the page where I found the ingredients -- so you can see for youself WHY they are not allowed on induction following the 2002 DANDR. http://www.carbsmart.com/atkinsbars.html
                            Last edited by imagood1; July 7, 2009, 04:36 PM. Reason: hit the button before I added the last sentence
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                            • #15
                              Re: a few questions

                              Originally posted by afewquestions View Post
                              I appreciate all the responses and I have not checked on any other diets really, just I ate alot during basketball season and when it ended I ate the same way and wasn't as active and only need to drop a few to get back to what I was. I just saw so much accelerated weight loss and was thinking this could just be a easy week long thing to drop a few pounds. I looked at the Metabolic Diet and I'm not really interested and I'm skeptical because I've never heard of it.

                              I am not happy about wasting $17 on a few atkins shakes and bars either.

                              Like Elizellen said you can keep them for later as you go up the rungs or you can donate them to food bank and take a tax deduction. I will tell you they make me sick to my stomach - I bought some a couple weeks before I started and ate them -- everytime I had one I threw up voilently...so I decided real quickly they weren't for me! My mother drinks the shakes when she can't keep any food down (she's elderly and sick a lot) - so they didn't go to waste. My husband also tried the bars and he didn't like them so we ended up throwing them out.
                              Carole
                              _____________________
                              May Water 130oz daily
                              7th Semi Annual Veggie Challenge



                              DON'T FORGET.....DRINK YOUR WATER TODAY
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