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    My sister asked me today "well what happeneds if your on atkins the two weeks or long and you cheat for a day or 2 then go back on full force another 2 weeks do u lose another massive amount of weight?" I couldnt asnwer i didnt no .. anyone have a answer shes a size 8 and not on atkins and doesnt need to lose weight but it made me curious now lol..






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  • #2
    Re: a question about cheating??

    You will only lose another massive amount of water weight if, when you first go off plan, you put on a lot of water weight. So you'd be right where you left off if you're extremely lucky, but you'd probably have a few extra pounds as souvenirs from your high carb rendez-vous. Not worth it, personally.

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    • #3
      Re: a question about cheating??

      You will gain a massive amount of weight first, part of it being water as you are refilling the glycogen stores. Then you will lose that water weight when you start Induction again and lose fat in the same way as you would have lost had you not cheated.

      ETA: Pagliaccia was faster than me this time...
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      • #4
        Re: a question about cheating??

        Originally posted by Georgiana View Post
        ETA: Pagliaccia was faster than me this time...
        There's a first for everything...

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        • #5
          Re: a question about cheating??

          Originally posted by Georgiana View Post
          You will gain a massive amount of weight first, part of it being water as you are refilling the glycogen stores. Then you will lose that water weight when you start Induction again and lose fat in the same way as you would have lost had you not cheated.

          ETA: Pagliaccia was faster than me this time...
          I've gained between 6-11 lb, depending on my carb intake. It's taken me about 5 days after to get back to my original weight.
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          • #6
            Re: a question about cheating??

            I think the worst thing for most people who step off the plan is that they cannot get back on. Many of us have some severe addictions to certain foods and allowing that just one taste or one meal will just send us spiralling downwards.
            I have been hanging around here for what will be two years in November and that is what I have seen. Many people who think sure I can do this or that just cannot and they end up falling off plan.
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            • #7
              Re: a question about cheating??

              So, if I hit a roadblock at the 3rd week mark and show a gain 4 lbs after losing 17, does this mean I put back on water weight? Im confused here. I haven't waivered and am curious what Saturday holds for me.

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              • #8
                Re: a question about cheating??

                What do you mean you "hit a roadblock"?
                Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

                May Challenges 2010
                Push-ups: 450/800
                Abs: 850/1900
                Squats: 650/1200
                Lunges: 500/1000
                Strength: 490/1200
                Running: 50/100 km


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                • #9
                  Re: a question about cheating??

                  Originally posted by liv View Post
                  What do you mean you "hit a roadblock"?

                  Sorry, my "road block" was gaining back 4 pounds the third week.

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                  • #10
                    Re: a question about cheating??

                    If you suddenly gained 4 lbs and you had not done anything that involved stuffing yourself with carbs - binging on artificial sugars the weightgain is very likely water retention due to hormonal changes (women do have quite a few and some of us put on 5 lbs when we are ready for our period) other times heavy exercise will make you hold on to water - too much salt the same thing. It will all flush out again.
                    Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

                    May Challenges 2010
                    Push-ups: 450/800
                    Abs: 850/1900
                    Squats: 650/1200
                    Lunges: 500/1000
                    Strength: 490/1200
                    Running: 50/100 km


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                    • #11
                      Re: a question about cheating??

                      Ive been doing a lot of background research into the atkins diet and from what Ive discovered, cheating for a day or two every two weeks will simply slow your progress. It will not stop it.

                      This is because the atkins diet is generally 'forgiving' to cheat meals. And why is this you may ask? Well, when you eat high carb foods whilst your glycogen stores are completly depleted, almost all of the carbs you ingest are rushed into your muscles and the liver to refill the body's glycogen stores allowing some of the carbs and most of the fat you eat to be used as energy.

                      This means that for the next couple of days (eating low carb), you will not be burning body fat, but using your glycogen stores for energy and so hence, slowing your weight loss progress since you have been out of ketosis for a couple of days.

                      Also, when you cheat, it may seem like you have gained a lot of weight if you weigh yourself but the truth of the matter is that you've most likely put on minimal fat gains but put on alot of water mass. (it takes 4 parts water to bind to 1 part glycogen).

                      Anyway, although cheating every two weeks may not cause fat gains, it will cause cravings which will likely lead onto to days of binges unless of course you have strong willpower.

                      Hope this has answered your question...
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                      • #12
                        Re: a question about cheating??

                        OK Jonniboy
                        I am sorry but I think your research has left out the most important ingredient - carb addiction.
                        If you and I counted the people on this board who cheat and fail. I am willing to bet that cheating for most people led to them failing on the diet not because of things that has to do with loss or water or muscels or stuff like that. Cheating is a kiss of death for people becasause we are addicts to foods and one bite leads to eating the whole bag and then the rest of the bags in the neighbourhood. That is one of the main reasons why cheating is problematic. Many of us need to treat carbs like this.

                        So go back read all posts - Yes people come here and are so sure that I can do this and that but in really they cannot not and they will end up leaving the diet becasue they cannot stick to it.

                        There is no way I would do that for me personally. Looking at my size 18 pants in my closet hanging beside my size 4 tells me no friggen bite of anything is worth me balooning up again.
                        Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

                        May Challenges 2010
                        Push-ups: 450/800
                        Abs: 850/1900
                        Squats: 650/1200
                        Lunges: 500/1000
                        Strength: 490/1200
                        Running: 50/100 km


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                        • #13
                          Re: a question about cheating??

                          Originally posted by liv View Post
                          OK Jonniboy

                          - Yes people come here and are so sure that I can do this and that but in really they cannot not and they will end up leaving the diet becasue they cannot stick to it.
                          Wanna bet?
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                          • #14
                            Re: a question about cheating??

                            Originally posted by neutronnorman View Post
                            Wanna bet?

                            hehe , funny.

                            I think I see a lot of people come to a diet and then analyze it for a way to short cut it or try to abuse it and still get results. Case in point, the Johnathan smith post about using Ephedra as a "short cut" essentially. The most powerful supplement you can add to keto is ambition..you have to want it.

                            I love how honest keto is to me. In my mind, keto is a cheat. I started this uncomfortably overweight seemingly helpless to do anything about it.

                            I put myself on keto and the weight flew off me. The times I freely cheated on keto was my Mom's birthday where she had a cookout and I ate whatever I wanted...1 month later a friend came to see me from up north and we went out the chinese and I ate freely. My weight at both those times slowed at first and then continued to drop.

                            I think cheating is possible when someone is at goal as defined by weight,sex, and height. If your uncomfortably overweight than keto should be your cheat until you've hit your body's ideal state.

                            Currently my cheat is bacon, anytime I'm bored or have the munchies beyond just regular hunger I make some crispy bacon and eat it like potatoe chips.

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                            • #15
                              Re: a question about cheating??

                              Originally posted by Empyre View Post

                              Currently my cheat is bacon, anytime I'm bored or have the munchies beyond just regular hunger I make some crispy bacon and eat it like potatoe chips.
                              Is that really cheating? If so,im in trouble

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