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  • #46
    Re: Human Carnivorism

    Originally posted by not2late View Post
    As we became more "sophisticated", we began turning up our noses to things like liver, tongue, etc.
    I would have to say that 2 years ago, DH slaughtered a lamb and brought it home.. It is soooo delicious, words can not describe it... And yes, we eat almost everything... heart, lungs, and liver... we use the intestines (of course cleaned very well if not they will clean you!) and the skin, the fat that covers the stomach, and cooked brains and testicles DH is from Morocco so I have great insight to wonderful recipes if anyone is interested.
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    • #47
      Re: Human Carnivorism

      Originally posted by goin2befit View Post
      I would have to say that 2 years ago, DH slaughtered a lamb and brought it home.. It is soooo delicious, words can not describe it... And yes, we eat almost everything... heart, lungs, and liver... we use the intestines (of course cleaned very well if not they will clean you!) and the skin, the fat that covers the stomach, and cooked brains and testicles DH is from Morocco so I have great insight to wonderful recipes if anyone is interested.

      eww..thats hard core ....how do you eat Lungs? lol

      The human digestive/energy system is soo amazing.
      This is the first time in human history that humanity has had freezers/microwaves/chemicals added to the mix.


      Where as for the most of our history our diet was vastly different I bet. I don't think they have ever had a show done on the History or TLC on the history of food diets and such..would be interesting.

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      • #48
        Re: Human Carnivorism

        Originally posted by not2late View Post
        I have to re-read, but Sally Fallon addresses this issue in her book, Nourishing Traditions. I have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that she writes meat should be only be consumed raw, rare or braised.
        All great information on the meat and what it eats today vs. 70-plus years ago, but if someone told me I would have to start consuming raw or rare meat, I'd barf in my trash can. I'm just a modern gal I guess, and I like my meat cooked. Well done, please!
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        • #49
          Re: Human Carnivorism

          too bad the original poster is gone...
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          • #50
            Re: Human Carnivorism

            trolls often post and run! But it did make for an interesting thread. I think.
            Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
            Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



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            • #51
              Re: Human Carnivorism

              Originally posted by not2late View Post
              The current issue of Mother Earth News has an article about him. And interview really. After reading the article, I put "Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal" on hold at the library because almost everything I want to do, like participate in a cow-share, is illegal or the unaffordable do to the cost of permits and inspections.

              It makes sense that he's in the Fallon-Enig-Weston Price camp...

              Anyhow, I'll check out his other books too. Mother and Grit have been my sustainability guides. I learn alot from reading them.
              My sister really does not care about organic or or anything about food, except eating it, but when she was in this summer, she got started on "Everything I Want to Do is Illegal", and couldn't put it down. My library has several copies of all his media, because he gives them free.

              The most impressive thing to me is to look at the whole family. When you see pictures of them, you will notice how healthy and fit they all are, including Joel's 80-something mother. They have always been organic, even when it wasn't called that. They bought the farm in the early 60's and it's never had even one bag of chemical fertilizer or pesticide in all these years. They have always ate the fat on meat, and they don't have any heart disease.
              People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


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              • #52
                Re: Human Carnivorism

                Originally posted by goin2befit View Post
                I would have to say that 2 years ago, DH slaughtered a lamb and brought it home.. It is soooo delicious, words can not describe it... And yes, we eat almost everything... heart, lungs, and liver... we use the intestines (of course cleaned very well if not they will clean you!) and the skin, the fat that covers the stomach, and cooked brains and testicles DH is from Morocco so I have great insight to wonderful recipes if anyone is interested.
                In the last four years, I have learned to eat many things I had never tried or foods that I used to not like. The one I still can't stand is lamb. It smells and tastes like a wet sheep smells. I made stock with several kinds of meat/bones and only added a very small amount of lamb, and I had to throw it out. It over-powered all the rest including a large amount pork and beef.
                People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


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                • #53
                  Re: Human Carnivorism

                  Originally posted by msanjelpie View Post
                  too bad the original poster is gone...
                  We hijacked the thread and made it interesting! LOL
                  People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


                  "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
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                  • #54
                    Re: Human Carnivorism

                    Originally posted by SunnySmile501 View Post
                    The most impressive thing to me is to look at the whole family. When you see pictures of them, you will notice how healthy and fit they all are, including Joel's 80-something mother. They have always been organic, even when it wasn't called that. They bought the farm in the early 60's and it's never had even one bag of chemical fertilizer or pesticide in all these years. They have always ate the fat on meat, and they don't have any heart disease.
                    That's nothing....I've learned that I've always been "green" and I was brought up "green"...only then it was called "thrifty". Seriously, I re-use what can be re-used. I recycle what can be recycled. I re-make what can be remade. Not because I want primarily to save the planet, but because I want primarily to save my money. lol.

                    It completely floored me a few months ago that Better Homes or Ladies Home Journal had the "tip" of saving empty glass jars from jelly, mustard, etc. and using them to store leftover foods. That's what my mom did and that's what I still do.

                    Ditto for using "gray water" for watering plants. Mom always threw the dishwater on her shrubs and roses. She did that because she had this fear that the "greasy" dishwater would clog the pipes, so she used to dump it on the plants outside instead. Now it's the environmentally friendly thing to do.

                    And the whole "solar" clothes dryer thing.....yeah, mom had a solar clothes dryer when I was a kid: it was a heavy rope strung between two trees in the back yard. Mom thought the clothes dryer was too noisy so whenever she could, the clothes were dried on a line outside. I dry clothes on my porch, because I'm too cheap to run the dryer on 3 or 4 items.
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                    • #55
                      Re: Human Carnivorism

                      Originally posted by Empyre View Post
                      eww..thats hard core ....how do you eat Lungs? lol
                      That's where sausages, head cheese/souse, etc. came into being. All the little bits and pieces of the animal were used to make sausage, headcheese/souse, etc.

                      Foodies say the best hotdogs and sausages are the ones with "natural casing". The natural casing is made from intestines.

                      Where as for the most of our history our diet was vastly different I bet. I don't think they have ever had a show done on the History or TLC on the history of food diets and such..would be interesting.
                      Food history is a fascinating subject.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Human Carnivorism

                        Originally posted by SunnySmile501 View Post

                        The most impressive thing to me is to look at the whole family. When you see pictures of them, you will notice how healthy and fit they all are, including Joel's 80-something mother. They have always been organic, even when it wasn't called that. They bought the farm in the early 60's and it's never had even one bag of chemical fertilizer or pesticide in all these years. They have always ate the fat on meat, and they don't have any heart disease.
                        I think this amuses (or sickens?) me the most...for THOUSANDS of years this is how everyone ate - and while there was heart disease and diabetes - it was no where near rampant like it is today

                        ...and yet it's only in the past 40 - 50 years that everyone's been told to eat "low-fat" and that pesticides have been used on farms, etc...and yet it's in the past 40 - 50 years that Diabetes and Heart Disease has EXPLODED!!!!!

                        I mean - really - the 80's was the decade of "low-fat" and yet alllll of a sudden (after society goes "low fat" because of how "healthy" it is...) society becomes obese and heart disease and diabetes are the new "norm"...)

                        makes sense to me! NOT!
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                        • #57
                          Re: Human Carnivorism

                          Originally posted by SunnySmile501 View Post
                          The one I still can't stand is lamb. It smells and tastes like a wet sheep smells.
                          I'm with you on this one, Sunny. Blech!


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                          • #58
                            Re: Human Carnivorism

                            Lambs are so cute - and yummy
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                            • #59
                              Re: Human Carnivorism

                              Originally posted by not2late View Post
                              That's where sausages, head cheese/souse, etc. came into being. All the little bits and pieces of the animal were used to make sausage, headcheese/souse, etc.

                              Foodies say the best hotdogs and sausages are the ones with "natural casing". The natural casing is made from intestines.
                              That's how sausages are still made where my grandparents live. Most are left to dry during the winter and eaten (raw) in late spring and summer. Making sausages is a whole family event and even kids are given something to do.

                              Same thing with part of the meat. They leave it to dry in the attick (the attick does not have the use it has "nowadays"!) and then it's eaten raw. Really good!

                              Parts of the meat (whatever is left) and bones are used to make aspic, broth, stock...

                              The liver is often used to make pate, sometimes pate in aspic (from beef liver soaked in raw milk and then boiled covered with slices of lard). Brains are fried in animal fat. Things like kidneys and gizzards (from chicken, ducks, etc.) are usually used in stews. Beef tongue is boiled and served with lemon juice, butter and herbs, or with olives, onions, celery, parsley, red wine, etc.

                              Steaks and chops are always braised.

                              Pork skin is salted and eaten raw (I tried it, but was never able to chew it; it's one of my brother's favorites though).

                              Chicken, goose and duck fat are considered fine foods. Duck fat and goose fat are used for cough (2 tbsp dissolved in a cup of hot milk). I'm not sure if they really help.....
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                              • #60
                                Re: Human Carnivorism

                                We did many of the same things when I grew up. The dried but raw meat is really good. At home they used to grind various animal parts to make sausages and salami like stuff to eat with bread. Lovely. And the blood we used for pancakes and blood sausages. Blood sausages were made in the intestines. Very work intensive stuff all this. Nowadays I feel so removed from what exactly it is I eat. Not sure that that is a good thing. I think really eating the parts was in very many ways to show a lot a respect to the fact that we are (most of us) part carnivours.
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