Eating fat only?

[Slapshot]

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The Atkins fat fast is not the only way of doing a fat fast. His contains meat and fish.

A "fat fast" (Atkins, keto-based, or otherwise) is not so much about what people eat (meat, fish, olive oil, mayo) as it is about following three very simple rules:

1,000 calories a day
200-calorie intakes at a time, 3-4 hours apart
90% fat

The only point I wanted to make was that there is no recommended or actual "100% fat" way of eating. The OP referenced mayo, olive oil, and butter. Mayo has carbs. So, what people were referring to as "eating fat only" really doesn't exist in reality unless you do something silly like drink olive oil all day. Maybe its semantics, but I consider the 90% fat intake on a Fat Fast to be about as close to "eating fat only" as someone can get. There are just too few realistic foods with zero carb to get to 100% fat intake (putting aside extreme, monolithic intakes of items with just fat).

[Helena-in-England]

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I totally understand your point Slappie.

Yes indeed it would be quite revolting to literally live on fat alone (ie drink olive oil all day) - and that is my opinion though I eat currently 80% fat.

Do you happen to know if pork rinds (with no meat attached) contains any protien or carbs?

[Slapshot]

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I totally understand your point Slappie.

Yes indeed it would be quite revolting to literally live on fat alone (ie drink olive oil all day) - and that is my opinion though I eat currently 80% fat.

Do you happen to know if pork rinds (with no meat attached) contains any protien or carbs?

Glad to see that you see where I was coming from. I think I was semantically looking at it slightly differently.

The pork rinds I've bought have always had 0 carbs, but have always had one level of protein or another (as well as a lot of sodium). Also, here in the states, labelers are able to list something as "0" if it has .49 grams of carbs or fewer. So, there are probably lots of "zero carb" items we eat that have varying amount of (small) carbs in them.

[Helena-in-England]

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I do beg your pardon. I am not referring to pork rinds in a bag with the manufacturer's nutrition label. I am talking about buying the skin of a pig and baking it in the oven until it is crispy. Here in the UK we call this pork crackling. When I used that term on another American board I was told you call it rinds.

We are, alas, divided by a common language!

[chauber]

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I do beg your pardon. I am not referring to pork rinds in a bag with the manufacturer's nutrition label. I am talking about buying the skin of a pig and baking it in the oven until it is crispy. Here in the UK we call this pork crackling. When I used that term on another American board I was told you call it rinds.

We are, alas, divided by a common language!

In the south (When I lived in Florida), we either would bake or fry the pig skin/fat and call in Cracklins also (I think that the qualifier would be that it had some skin to it rather than all fat and the weren't as airy as the kind in the bag). Pork rinds we always bought in a bag.

[Helena-in-England]

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And so, is there any protein in freshly baked pork skin with no meat attached at all? I never count it as protein in Fitday, just as pure fat.

[Slapshot]

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And so, is there any protein in freshly baked pork skin with no meat attached at all? I never count it as protein in Fitday, just as pure fat.

I would suspect that all meat, even skin, has protein. How much, I couldn't tell you. Someone more knowledgeable than me regarding pork skins might have more insight.

[RitaCeleste]

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I'd say a crackling had zero carbs but the skin might have a little protein? Generally the skin is kinda tough and I just like the fatty part. You could compare it to pork rinds which is the skin made puffy, but a cracklin has got to be mostly fat.
Something like 1/3 porkrind, 2/3s fat would about give you a cracklin. If cracklins arn't listed on fitday, you'd have to create a food.

[not2late]

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And so, is there any protein in freshly baked pork skin with no meat attached at all? I never count it as protein in Fitday, just as pure fat.

USDA Nutrient DATABASE:

per 100grams, pork rinds have 61.3 grams Protein, 31.3 grams fat, 1 cab.

100 grams of chicken breast has only 20.8 grams Protein and 9.25 grams fat.

[Georgiana]

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And so, is there any protein in freshly baked pork skin with no meat attached at all?

Yes. From an old paper of W. E. Henry, 100 g of pork skin (without any fat or meat attached; the thickness should be about 2-3 mm) has approximately 35 g protein, 23 g fat and the rest moisture.

[mission to lose]

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Timlin, Your post was quite rude I think. Of course everyone should read the book, but sometimes it just doesn't "go in" and you have to ask questions..after all that's the whole point of a forum. Why are you on here? Why not just read the book as you pointed out and get on with it!

I've asked some damn silly questions....ask all you want I say, that is after all how you learn. I have learnt quite a lot from Ericks questions thanks Erick!

Yes, I agree. Even after reading the book and the stickies with info on the board, sometimes you need things explained in easier terms. I for one am thinking of going to rung 1, but no further for a while, since I have been on extended induction for a few weeks. But I am still confused a little about how to go about it, even after reading the book, and reading and re-reading some of the links about starting OWL. Frankly I am a little scared and intimidated about stating...I am afraid I might do it wrong, because in Induction you feel very safe.
So lets be a little more tolerant.

[Strmtrper6]

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I'm just now re-reading the book and here is the part that is being discussed.

To be fair, it is towards the end of the book and it is in the area about not being able to lose, that some people might skip.

Weight Loss and Good Health The Atkins Way The Fat Fast is one controlled carb program where you do have to count calories, I am afraid. You'll eat 1,000 calories a day, with seventy-five to ninety percent fat. Since frequent "feedings" prevent hunger better than three meals a day, I recommend five feedings, perhaps one every four hours, comprising 200 calories each. Because of the high fat content and frequent feedings, very few people on the Fat Fast experience much hunger. The stumbling block for some people is the absence of meals as we know them.
Let's look at some choices for a Fat Fast 200-calorie feeding. Each item equals approximately 200 calories:

• One ounce of macadamia nuts or macadamia nut butter

• Two ounces of cream cheese or Brie

• One ounce of tuna or chicken salad with two teaspoons of mayonnaise served in one-quarter of an avocado

• Two deviled eggs made with two teaspoons of mayonnaise

• Two ounces of sour cream and two tablespoons black or red caviar

• Two and a half ounces whipped heavy cream topped with sucralose zero-calorie syrup

• Two ounces of pate (check label for fat content)

• Two egg yolks (hard-boiled) with one tablespoon of mayonnaise

Also, it does say it is dangerous to people who can do the normal approach.