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    Hi all...
    Totally new. did induction for less than 14 days, good results and then did my "own" version of OWL (ha ha...you can FINISH this story!)
    Anyway, back to induction and will do it right this time...I thought since I have not much weight to lose, am active and healthy..blah blah blah. Not so!

    Ok, #1 - If you get MOST of your fat (and there's a LOT of it..SCARY) from "good" fats and avoid too much sat fat, does that stall folks? I think it did me.

    #2- Go with labels? book says all cheese has some carbs so count it in your total, but there are Brie and other ones at Trader Joe's that say O and O sugars and when I add up total fat grams (x9) and pro (x4) they equal total calories, so I thought it was ok

    #3- If Tofu's allowed on induction (correct me if I'm wrong..it counts as an ounce of cheese?) then why not other soy nut products with low to zero carbs?

    #4-In induction, what is one cup of salad greens, in carbs? 2? How can three cups (or two plus one other veggie) get you to the 12 grams they want from veggies? I can TOTALLY get to the other eight through other means (eggs, cheese, cream, some sausage, shellfish, etc) but how do you get your 12 from 3 cups of veggies? Does each cup have four and not 2?

    #5- Is it ONE OR THE OTHER of the "extras"..sour cream, avocado half, olives, or can you have a couple if in your carb count?

    I kinda KNOW what I did in OWL that was wrong, so these are my only questions for now. THANK YOU for helping. This is some nit picky stuff, but with little weight to lose, I need to know.

    My sugar and other cravings that were FEROCIOUS and totally, totally unmanageable before Atkins are GONE. That was main purpose to do it and I'm so so so so pleased with that result!
    Am a fitness professional with a few pounds to lose (yes, we do!) and need these questions squared away to start over...
    Thanks

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    Re: TECHNICAL questions

    Originally posted by ff11 View Post
    If you get MOST of your fat (and there's a LOT of it..SCARY) from "good" fats and avoid too much sat fat, does that stall folks?
    There is nothing bad with saturated fat as long as you are following a low carbohydrate diet. Talking about diets restricted in carbohydrates, Jeff Volek, Ph.D., R.D., said, "You can actually eat more saturated fat and see a reduction in saturated fat in your plasma."

    I think it did me.
    Or maybe it was not following OWL correctly? Or something else? There are many variables involved in weight loss. Separating between saturated fat and monounsaturated is impossible, in my opinion.

    It's also normal for weight loss to slow down... and it can happen to go for weeks or even months without weight loss.

    Go with labels?
    Since you are in the US, labels are not accurate because numbers are rounded per serving size. Better go with USDA: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/.

    there are Brie and other ones at Trader Joe's that say O and O sugars and when I add up total fat grams (x9) and pro (x4) they equal total calories, so I thought it was ok
    No. The label is not correct. Things are rounded... up or down. Carbs are usually rounded down.

    If Tofu's allowed on induction (correct me if I'm wrong..it counts as an ounce of cheese?)
    Yes, it is allowed and counts as cheese. But diary cheese is a better choice, in my opinion. More nutritious.

    then why not other soy nut products with low to zero carbs?
    Soy products do not have zero carbs.

    What "products" do you think should be allowed?

    In induction, what is one cup of salad greens, in carbs? 2?
    Depends on the salad greens. Check USDA.

    How can three cups (or two plus one other veggie) get you to the 12 grams they want from veggies?
    With a bit of effort, is possible.

    Personally, I don't think it matters if your vegetables fit in 3 cups or not. I think "cups" is nothing but a visual.

    how do you get your 12 from 3 cups of veggies? Does each cup have four and not 2?
    "Salad greens" are not the only Induction-acceptable vegetables. There are higher carbs vegetables that are also allowed. Did you check the Acceptable Foods List?

    Is it ONE OR THE OTHER of the "extras"..sour cream, avocado half, olives, or can you have a couple if in your carb count?
    You can have more than one. That's how I always read that part. Of course, count the carbs... and if you are sensitive to salt, watch for the sodium in olives. Too much sodium might cause water retention.

    Also, too much diary stalls some people. I would not consume 4 oz of cheese, 1.5 of cream and 1 of sour cream.
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      Re: TECHNICAL questions

      Hi
      I just wanted to say welcome!!!

      Great questions.

      Personally I don't think eating fats would stall you as long as you kept carbs down and eat regular meals. People think they are stalling when they see a little pause not realizing small pauses are very normal on Atkins even in the second or third pause. Weightloss is not linear -

      If you are 110 lbs - I think it will be difficult to get much further down just using diet - I would try exercise
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        Re: TECHNICAL questions

        Originally posted by ff11 View Post
        #5- Is it ONE OR THE OTHER of the "extras"..sour cream, avocado half, olives, or can you have a couple if in your carb count?
        I interpret the sentence in DANDR
        To add variety, each day you can also eat ten to twenty olives, half a small avocado, one ounce of sour cream or three ounces of unsweetened heavy cream, as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice.
        as meaning we may choose one of the options in the list.

        As far as I remember from my English grammar lessons at school a list of choices with items separated by a comma and the last two items separated by the word 'or' means only one is to be chosen.

        I know many other people take a different view on this (and that nowadays many of the rules of grammar are often ignored) so would not argue the point with anyone who does so

        As long as you take note of the next sentence in the 'Special Category' paragraph
        But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.
        and act on it if needed you should be fine.
        However if you are regularly adding more than one of them in a day and have problems you will find it hard to work out which one is causing the problems.
        Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
        Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



        Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





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