too much cheese?

[atkinsgal08]

Re: too much cheese?

>> i am an adult and can make decisions for myself>>

Yes, you can.

However, that doesn't mean that we have to stop reminding you that Dr. Atkins wrote that pregnant women and breastfeeding women shouldn't do any of the weight loss phases.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: too much cheese?

>>i think should be allowed to make that decision without judgement from random internet strangers.>>

Once you post in a public forum, you're asking for "judgment from random internet strangers."

If you didn't want the advice, then ...

[tweedledee]

Re: too much cheese?

>>i think should be allowed to make that decision without judgement from random internet strangers.>>

Once you post in a public forum, you're asking for "judgment from random internet strangers."

If you didn't want the advice, then ...

no. i didn't open up my life t be analyzed. your'e not my mother. i came to connect with thers on a similar eating plan and get tip hw to follow it successfully. that doesn''t mean my judgement as a mother is in your hands to condemn or approve.if i had known 'd be under attack for it i never would have mentioned that i'm nursing. it came up casually connected to a completely different subject. you can offer advice and then i can choose to take or not. you don't have a right to hit me over the head with your advice and tell me i can grin and bear it or leave the boards. now you have told me what you think, i have addressed it and saying it another ten times will not change anything. you are not telling me anything you have not already said or that or have not already given my response to. please let it go.

However, that doesn't mean that we have to stop reminding you that Dr. Atkins wrote that pregnant women and breastfeeding women shouldn't do any of the weight loss phases.

you don't have to remind me of anything as i have not forgotten. please dn't be my mommy. this thread was about the effects of cheese on the diet. whether or not i am nursing and how often has nothing to do wth my question. i don't want t be chased arund the board wth every post i make being turned into a debate of ketosis and breastfeeding. we are talking in circles. i appreciate your concern but i feel it is misplaced and i am aking you to drop the subject.you have told me you don't feel right advising me in this situation and i appreciate your honesty and i understand completely but please don't get involved if others do want to help me. don't make a crusade out of this. please.i don't now if you have children but nothing involved in raising a child is ever by the book. i trust my maternal instincts and they have never led me wrong. my baby is in no danger and she is nearly weaned anyway.

[tweedledee]

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i will post in my siggy that i am nursing. that way anyone who does not feel comfortable advising me for the time being simply doesn't have to respond to my question an those who do can. this way no one has to fee responsible for something they are not OK with. i will remove the siggy once my baby is off breast milk which should be in a couple of mothers. i think thats fair.

[thefemalegreenday]

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Cheese has cow rennet in it..
isn't that gross? Do they even cook it?
Just try to gross yourself out of it.. =P

"FATHER! NO!!!!!!!! I won't let them take you away!"

"...Its for the best, you don't want the world to be deprived of my stomach."

*mini dramatic tear*

Moo.

[brandywine1241]

Re: too much cheese?

How about some celery sticks with maybe a dab of cream cheese spread on them.. You could make them up ahead of time and have them ready in the fridge.

[JulieB]

Re: too much cheese?

In terms of suggesting something other than cheese that is fast & easy to grab from the fridge while carrying a fussy baby...

How about a piece of lunch meat (easy to eat one-handed if rolled up), a chicken leg, chunks of roast chicken/beef/pork, pre-cooked bacon (I cook the whole package & stick in the freezer in a ziplock freezer bag)...makes an excellent snack IMO

I agree with mission to lose...the risk of becoming terribly constipated, plus the risk of slowing/stalling weight loss would (did) keep me from exceeding 4oz cheese during induction.

If you are exceeding the 4oz limit, try to be extra careful to make sure you get higher-fiber veggies - the fibre will help you avoid/mitigate constipation.

[Shrew2u]

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Tweedle, I have a seven-month-old who is teething, too. When he's in "hold me" mode (aka "when he's awake"), I pop him into my Snugli, which leaves both of my hands free to do stuff. It's a little awkward for food prep (kinda like being massively pregnant again, heh), but at least it allows you to put together more than just cheese to eat during the day while still giving the little one the comfort of constant contact.

[soon2bslim]

Re: too much cheese?

Here's some perspective, at the risk 'violating' some 'golden rules':
First of all this BB follows the 2002 Dr A. New Diet Revolution version,
HOWEVER, IMHO, >>and i'm sure some will disagree, :

- Opening the fridge and grabbing some cheese is always far better than grabbing cookies, or chocolate etc... no matter how much cheese you've already had that day
-Some of us lost a considerable amount of weight, easily, w/ the original Dr A diet, prior to 2002, where cheese quantities were much more liberal, and altho this is the new and improved version, the previous one worked well for many people, including me, so i, personally, don't worry too much about cheese.
-We all have a variety of family, work, medical, community, cultural, religious issues that can get in the way of follwing DANDR 2002 to a T but the important thing is to follow as best u can and know where your priorities are on a given day/week / etc...although most people here are very supportive, you know what goes on in your life and the important thing is to LIVE w/ this WOE, not destroy yourself or adapt to priorities of others, learn from the advice that you receive but be true 2 your needs w/in the framework of the WOE.
-When these things get in the way of 100% DANDR 4 me - i try 2 stick 2 food w/in the program, like eating almonds or extra cheese, perhaps too many cherry tomatoes, because i know that eventually i will deal w/ them anyway and if i turn 2 chocolate or cookies i will get thrown me off entirely...sometimes staying on plan 4 me is staying w/in allowable food in the lower rungs even tho i'm not ready 4 OWL yet.
- the stalling and constipation issues w/ cheese were already mentioned, don't 4 get that most cheeses have significant amounts of salt and if you have a tendency to retain water, you may want 2 watch the cheese and in general opt 4 lower sodium cheese. This is a water weight issue 4 most and eventually it comes off, but if you weigh yourself often you may get frustrated w/ progress if your daily salt intake is high and your body is sensitive to it. Drinking extra water if you're doing a little extra cheese was really good advice, posted earlier in the thread.
-Good Luck in juggling kids, home, whatever else...and eating lo carb, healthfully ...it will probably help improve that juggle anyway ... my favorite thing about this WOE is the ENERGY that it brings to my life.

[Skeptika23]

Re: too much cheese?

I have a 3 month old... what we do is we try to do a week's worth of pre-prep of veggies on the weekend, and then just grab n'go throughout the week.

We prep:
Cabbage (red & green)
Cauliflower (and the variants Broccoflower and Orange Cauliflower)
Broccoli

Having those handy to nosh OR nuke/quick stir-fry (cabbage in butter with pepper takes all of a couple of minutes max) makes it a lot easier...

[Georgiana]

Re: too much cheese?

Opening the fridge and grabbing some cheese is always far better than grabbing cookies, or chocolate etc... no matter how much cheese you've already had that day

It's better to eat an Atkins bar than to eat a Snickers. It's better to overeat cheese than to eat a slice of Black Forest cake. It's better to guzzle some cream than to drink milk on Induction. And the list could go on.

But I see all this "at least I ate X not Y" talk as nothing else but an excuse for not planning... and not planning only perpetuates bad eating habits... which in the end lead to failure.

Some of us lost a considerable amount of weight, easily, w/ the original Dr A diet, prior to 2002, where cheese quantities were much more liberal, and altho this is the new and improved version, the previous one worked well for many people, including me, so i, personally, don't worry too much about cheese.

Weight loss is not the only principle behind Atkins though. Did the other three "work", too?

[mission to lose]

Re: too much cheese?

To me it all comes down to how serious someone is about losing the weight and maintaining that loss for a lifetime.



Some of us have babies, some of us have a job, some of us have babies AND a job, some of us have 2 jobs, some of us are students and have 2 jobs, some of us take care of sick/dying elderly parents……..the excuses can go on and on.



If you want to do it successfully you have to do it right.....And that takes planning.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: too much cheese?

>>Some of us lost a considerable amount of weight, easily, w/ the original Dr A diet, prior to 2002, >>

Remember that it's not JUST about losing the weight ... it's about maintaining the weight loss.

[T.M.]

Re: too much cheese?

Assuming that an appropriate calorie-deficient amount of food is consumed, exactly how can cheese (or non-carb anything else) cause a long-term stall in weight reduction - that is, long-term enough to cause one to reduce cheese consumption?

Even if cheese does cause constipation at first, body fat is still being burned "in the background", and, after some number of days, even if one keeps consuming that constipating cheese, things will eventually work themselves out in (of) the end (opposite the mouth).

If fact, if one really packs "it" in while eating cheese, one might expect to see one's weight actually rise until, again, eventually what must happen, happens. And after what must happen continues to happen, observable weight loss should again resume, albeit now with an "intestinal inventory" constantly on board.

Of course if one suddenly stops eating cheese after having eaten it for some period of time (and packing it in), and the intestinal state of affairs begins to normalize, one might then observe some very rapid "weight" loss that fully exposes both the hidden fat loss and the amount of "excess baggage" that one has been carrying around inside the intestines while grazing on that delicious extra cheese.

In short, the only long-term, poetentially-serious effect of eating lots of cheese is getting so constipated that one develops an impacted bowel, but how often does constipation lead to that in most folks? And, of course, before impaction happens, there is serious constipation, headache and probably a reduction in appetite to warn of what's going on inside. (Whether he latter is a bad thing is at least debatable.)

[mission to lose]

Re: too much cheese?

Another way of looking at it is once you stop planning and stop eating properly, and start grabbing whatever is easy, you begin to take a road in the wrong direction, a road that many will agree, is often very difficult to steer back to the right direction.

The idea is not really how much cheese you can or can't eat...It may begin as eating a little more cheese, or a little more this or that...even being Atkins friendly. (After a while the atkins friendly food you are over eating can start making you gain weight.) Then if you are going off plan even with Atkins acceptable foods, you are starting a pattern. Next you start nibbling on some other food that is "handy", and then some food not on the plan, and the next thing you know you are out of control and don't know how to get back.

Once you stop planning and stop having the right food available,
you are breaking the good habits.

As I posted earlier, we all have reasons we can use as an excuse. But if you can get past those "hard to eat right days" and only have one or two bad days and can jump back to doing it the right way, more power to you. But I bet if you ask anyone here for awhile they will agree, once you start playing around, it is that much harder to get on track.

Not trying to sound "preachy", just telling it like it is and hopefully stop people from going off in the wrong direction before it gets too hard.