raspberry VS organic raspberry

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ok i got 2 packages of raspberries here both only have 1 ingredient

one package is just raspberries
other is just organic raspberries

and here is the nutrition facts with the reccomended daily value thingy

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organic raspberries

per 1 cup 123g
calories 80
fat 0g 0%
saturated 0g
+ trans 0g 0%
cholestoral 0mg
sodium 0mg 0%
carbohydrate 20g 7%
fibre 5g 20%
sugars 9g
protein 1g

vitamin A 0%
vitamin C 15%
calcium 2%
iron 6%
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raspberries

per 1 1/4 cup 140g
calories 70
fat 1g 2%
saturated 0g
+ trans 0g 0%
cholestoral 0mg
sodium 0mg 0%
carbohydrates 17g 6%
fibre 9g 36%
sugars 6g
protein 2g

vitamin A 0%
vitamin C 30%
calcium 4%
iron 6%
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so the organic rasberries have 15 net carbs? per 123 grams and almost half as much vitamin C and calcium?

and the raspberries have 8 net carbs? per 140 grams and more vitamin C and calcium?

when people say the fruit now a days hardly resembles the fruit are ancestors ate they weren't kidding

i think i remember along time ago when these organic rasberries first came out it said they were a extra sweet kind but is this really natural? or are they man made? can rasberries naturally differ this much in carbohydrates and fibre?

or is the nutrition facts just way off?

[atkinsgal08]

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Did you notice that the serving sizes were different?

raspberries

per 1 1/4 cup 140g

vs

organic raspberries

per 1 cup 123g

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ya but it doesn't really matter cause the bigger serving has almost half as many net carbs it says

[cleochatra]

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That is so weird! I wonder if the higher carb ones are genetically modified to be sweeter?

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your right they may be genetically modifided i just looked this up


Whether genetically modified (GM) foods are beneficial or harmful is still controversial. Most foods we eat may contain ingredients derived from genetically modified organisms (GMOs)--everything from baby formula and food to our dairy to even our meat. If you live in Europe, avoiding GM foods is easier since laws require labeling. However in the US and Canada food manufacturers are not required to label if their food is genetically modified or not. As such, here are some guidelines for steering clear of GM foods in your diet, if that is your choice.


Buy food labeled 100% organic. The US and Canadian governments do not allow manufacturers to label something 100% organic if that food has been genetically modified or been fed genetically modified feed. However, you may find that organic food is more expensive and different in appearance from conventional products. Also, just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GMs. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the labels say 100% organic.


i live in canada so these organic rasberries could be up to 30% GMs because they don't say 100% organic on them thats pretty disturbing

[cleochatra]

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Wow! Doesn't that just burn my bloomers. Good information and another reason consumers have to be ever vigilant. You made a huge catch.

Thank you for sharing it with the rest of us!

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your welcome

also heres the site i got that info at

How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods - wikiHow

[cleochatra]

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GREAT information there. I am a major fan of 100% grass fed beef and go organic whenever possible, but I'm going to start checking upc codes as well now. You rockem sockem robots!

[not2late]

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your right they may be genetically modifided i just looked this up


Whether genetically modified (GM) foods are beneficial or harmful is still controversial. Most foods we eat may contain ingredients derived from genetically modified organisms (GMOs)--everything from baby formula and food to our dairy to even our meat. If you live in Europe, avoiding GM foods is easier since laws require labeling. However in the US and Canada food manufacturers are not required to label if their food is genetically modified or not. As such, here are some guidelines for steering clear of GM foods in your diet, if that is your choice.


Buy food labeled 100% organic. The US and Canadian governments do not allow manufacturers to label something 100% organic if that food has been genetically modified or been fed genetically modified feed. However, you may find that organic food is more expensive and different in appearance from conventional products. Also, just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GMs. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the labels say 100% organic.


i live in canada so these organic rasberries could be up to 30% GMs because they don't say 100% organic on them thats pretty disturbing

The trend over the last 30 to 40 years is for growers to select/choose the sweetest variety of veggies and fruits to mass produce.

For GMs/GMO, it typically means that it was modified to resist pesticides/herbicides---not that it was modified to be more nutritious.

If you grow your own or buy your own (like in a CSA program or a farmer's market), look for "heirloom varieties".

[Slapshot]

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For what it's worth, I tried a pint of organic raspberries and conventional raspberries from Trader Joes, in an effort to see whether the extra $1.00 was worth it. Well, I'm a guy who can't tell the difference between a $5.00 bottle of wine and a $50.00 bottle of wine, but the organic raspberries (which I tasted blindly from my wife) were hands down better tasting.

[Aways2Go]

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Besides the difference in the serving size there could be variations in the nutrition label due to differences in the labs used to analyze the fruits, rounding up or down, differences in the variety of raspberry grown (regardless of GMO or not), and whether the fruits sent to analysis were at the height of sweetness or underripe when picked, etc.

Regardless of whether I can taste a difference in organic versus non-organic (and often I can), I do think over many decades of my lifetime my body will know the difference between the chronic ingestion of small amounts of pesticides (insect poisons and herbicides) or not. I also know the environment and critters downstream of the runoff from hundreds of thousands of acres of pesticide laden soil used for (choke, cough) "conventionally grown" produce will show a difference. And soils that are continually used to grow food crops and never repleneshed with organic matter but only petroleum-derived "big 3" fertilizers (how most corporate mega-farms operate) lose micronutrients over time, which means you eventually aren't getting them in those foods at the levels you once were.

Although I can't always grow, find (or afford) organic everything, I most certainly think it is worth the price for my own health and the environment. And my top preference (besides growing my own food, which we do some of) is actually buying from a local grower at the farmers markets whom I can talk with and understand their growing practices and personal beliefs - many of the best are not certified as an organic grower due to the time, paperwork, and money involved, but that does not mean they are not growing in an organic, sustainable way. Locally produced foods tend to be fresher and more flavorful for a number of reasons, not least of which is the fact that they don't have to grow fruit and vegetable varieties based on their ability to withstand a thousand mile trip and two weeks of sitting around in a bin waiting to get put on the grocery shelf. Many if not most of the best tasting varieties of produce will not withstand that type of treatment and are thus never grown for mass market. Usually the trade off for having perfect looking produce that can sit for weeks and travel around the country packed in large crates without brusing or going bad quickly is TASTE. You rarely get it all.

The organic label is helpful when you are buying food from an unknown supplier hundreds or thousands of miles away. It does not guarantee everything we would like for it to, but it is still a better bet in my mind than non-organic in that case. The major food manufacturers that have gotten into the organic biz cut as many corners as possible and somewhat undermine the original spirit of the "organic" label in the name of profits, but it is still preferable to (choke, cough) "conventional".

Growing some of your own fruits and vegetables is ideal. It doesn't have to take loads of time and energy - almost anyone can grow a few cherry tomato plants or some such. The taste of fresh picked produce right from your own yard and eaten the same day can rarely be beaten. And I love the taste of many heirloom varieties, which you often can only get from growing your own stuff from seed, but admittedly they are often either less productive per plant or much more susceptible to disease and insect damage, etc, thus the higher prices when you see them for sale. I grow some heirloom varieties and some hybrids (hybrids are not the same as GM, just a specific cross between two parent plants) for this reason. The hybrids are usually easier to grow, but the taste is frequently not as good.

[not2late]

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Although I can't always grow, find (or afford) organic everything, I most certainly think it is worth the price for my own health and the environment. And my top preference (besides growing my own food, which we do some of) is actually buying from a local grower at the farmers markets whom I can talk with and understand their growing practices and personal beliefs - many of the best are not certified as an organic grower due to the time, paperwork, and money involved, but that does not mean they are not growing in an organic, sustainable way.

Exactly! I know local growers who practice organic techniques, but aren't certified organic due to the paperwork/time/money issue---it's cost prohibitive for them to be certified.

Locally produced foods tend to be fresher and more flavorful for a number of reasons, not least of which is the fact that they don't have to grow fruit and vegetable varieties based on their ability to withstand a thousand mile trip and two weeks of sitting around in a bin waiting to get put on the grocery shelf. Many if not most of the best tasting varieties of produce will not withstand that type of treatment and are thus never grown for mass market. Usually the trade off for having perfect looking produce that can sit for weeks and travel around the country packed in large crates without brusing or going bad quickly is TASTE. You rarely get it all.

The organic label is helpful when you are buying food from an unknown supplier hundreds or thousands of miles away. It does not guarantee everything we would like for it to, but it is still a better bet in my mind than non-organic in that case. The major food manufacturers that have gotten into the organic biz cut as many corners as possible and somewhat undermine the original spirit of the "organic" label in the name of profits, but it is still preferable to (choke, cough) "conventional".

Growing some of your own fruits and vegetables is ideal. It doesn't have to take loads of time and energy - almost anyone can grow a few cherry tomato plants or some such. The taste of fresh picked produce right from your own yard and eaten the same day can rarely be beaten. And I love the taste of many heirloom varieties, which you often can only get from growing your own stuff from seed, but admittedly they are often either less productive per plant or much more susceptible to disease and insect damage, etc, thus the higher prices when you see them for sale. I grow some heirloom varieties and some hybrids (hybrids are not the same as GM, just a specific cross between two parent plants) for this reason. The hybrids are usually easier to grow, but the taste is frequently not as good.

[Desertthorn]

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This is an awesome post. I always go organic when dealing with berries and fruit that we don't peel, but this gave me more into.
Awesome, awesome, awesome

[Aways2Go]

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Desertthorn -
I applaud your organic choices. I would add that additionally, besides fruit I tend towards choosing organic versions of root crops when possible also. They spend their entire life underground, and if non-organic, underground in pesticide laden soils, most commonly. Potatoes are a prime example, though rarely eaten on Atkins anyway save for maybe an occasional sweet potato at the highest rungs. Bell peppers, spinach and celery are also prone to higher pesticide levels.

Ideally I would prefer to only eat organic versions of ALL my foods, but at this point in my life that is not always possible due to availability/time/finances. I currently just do the best I can with what I can afford, find, and grow myself, and dream of the days when I can achieve a 100% organic diet (which I have nearly done a couple times in my life under different circumstances/locations).