Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

[hopeforme]

I thought I better check as I had been using it a bit. It's a natural fiber.

[jmclean]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

I also use a natural dietary fibre supplement daily with my meals. Mine specifically say on the label "No digestible carbohydrates." As it contains other products such as prune and psyllium. However, 100% pure fibre has no digestible carbohydrates, as our bodies cannot digest fibre.

So I would just read the label and see what it is comprised of, but my first guess would be that it is safe for atkins.

[Georgiana]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

I thought I better check as I had been using it a bit. It's a natural fiber.

Are you eating glucomannan pasta? Or how are you using it?

[Georgiana]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

As it contains other products such as prune and psyllium.

What exactly are the ingredients?

[Suzanne_H]

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Well from what I read, I know the stuff is banned in Australia... hmph. Interesting. Maybe there's an ADBB member from Oz who can clear this up?

And articles say it's used as an appetite suppressant. Basically it's an absorbent polymer that soaks up water and fills the belly. Some who use it stir it into a glass of water and drink it an hour before meals so they don't eat as much. Geez louise.

And it's how the Japanese make those shirataki noodles... you know the zero-carb pasta thingies? I've thought about trying them, but really I prefer my menus remain as natural as possible. I don't do pasta, not even fake no-carb pasta. Just my preference.

Here's how I see it. If it's not on the acceptable foods list, it's not. The book gives me several options for adding fiber to my diet and improving digestion naturally. Thank you for the question, though. It was interesting reading up about it this morning.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

it is a pure fiber product and if you are using it as a chapter 11 induction rule 12 fiber then it should be okay. be careful cause a little goes a long way and you can clog yourself up badly. Also gut bacteria like it so a lot can have the same effect as those sugar alcohols.

[hopeforme]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

Are you eating glucomannan pasta? Or how are you using it?

No, not as pasta. It's just marketed as a fiber capsule. Take two capsules and drink at least 8 ounces of water before meals. It says it has 1 carb and 1 fiber. So I figured that meant 0 net carbs.

[hopeforme]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

it is a pure fiber product and if you are using it as a chapter 11 induction rule 12 fiber then it should be okay. be careful cause a little goes a long way and you can clog yourself up badly. Also gut bacteria like it so a lot can have the same effect as those sugar alcohols.

As far as I know, this is just pure fiber. It is in capsule form, formulated for you to take two capsules before each meal, and making sure to drink 8 ounces of water with it. I take it maybe twice a day, sometimes just once. I haven't had any trouble, but wanted to make sure it was ok to take.

[hopeforme]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

Well from what I read, I know the stuff is banned in Australia... hmph. Interesting. Maybe there's an ADBB member from Oz who can clear this up?

And articles say it's used as an appetite suppressant. Basically it's an absorbent polymer that soaks up water and fills the belly. Some who use it stir it into a glass of water and drink it an hour before meals so they don't eat as much. Geez louise.

And it's how the Japanese make those shirataki noodles... you know the zero-carb pasta thingies? I've thought about trying them, but really I prefer my menus remain as natural as possible. I don't do pasta, not even fake no-carb pasta. Just my preference.

Here's how I see it. If it's not on the acceptable foods list, it's not. The book gives me several options for adding fiber to my diet and improving digestion naturally. Thank you for the question, though. It was interesting reading up about it this morning.

I hadn't head it was banned in Australia. I will have to go read up on why! I know some herbs have been banned here that were great, effective herbs, only people abused them and had problems - so they banned their sale to the public. So I have to always look into "why" they ban something before I determine if it's really bad for "me" or not. I would imagine any fiber supplement taken before a meal would be somewhat of an appetite suppressant, but to be quite honest, I have not found any appetite suppressing going on with me. I don't feel more full or anything like that.

[Suzanne_H]

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My sources were just articles I read on the internet. You know if you read it online it's gotta be gospel truth, right? LOL So I don't know but it sounds like you're using it right and respecting the rules of induction.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

the only bad thing about using them is they are an artificial braking mechanism on your eating which we are supposed to be learning to do for ourselves as we work our way from begining to goal weight in the different phases of atkins cause if we don't learn portion control and feeding only our hunger along the way then we will balloon back up at goal weight.
Ketosis in the early days will suppress our appetite so we can practice that portion control and feeding our hunger only day after day. Then when we arrive in premaintnenace and appetite suppession is gone we can use the portion control we worked on in OWL to keep on eating the amount we need to feed our hunger and stop.

Artificially filling our stomache will any compound to expand it will only work as long as we keep taking it every day every meal.

[hopeforme]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

the only bad thing about using them is they are an artificial braking mechanism on your eating which we are supposed to be learning to do for ourselves as we work our way from begining to goal weight in the different phases of atkins cause if we don't learn portion control and feeding only our hunger along the way then we will balloon back up at goal weight.
Ketosis in the early days will suppress our appetite so we can practice that portion control and feeding our hunger only day after day. Then when we arrive in premaintnenace and appetite suppession is gone we can use the portion control we worked on in OWL to keep on eating the amount we need to feed our hunger and stop.

Artificially filling our stomache will any compound to expand it will only work as long as we keep taking it every day every meal.

If I took it for that reason, I'd agree with you. I'm taking it as a fiber supplement. I do not find it "filling" or appetite suppressing at all. If that is what it is only designed for, for me, it fails to do the job. I don't have trouble with portion control. I am not even sure I am eating enough for the best metabolic burn. I do know I need more fiber, so that is why I decided to take it. My meals for today were as follows: Breakfast: 3 eggs, scrambled, one beef "sausage" patty, 1 cup coffee with 1-1/2 T. cream. 20 ounces water. Lunch: 2 cups Spring Mix Salad, 1 T. of bleu cheese dressing, 1 grilled chicken breast. No snacks - water throughout day 40 ounces Supper: Rotisserie chicken, skinless, one thigh and leg, small portion of white meat (leftovers) - 1-1/2 cup coleslaw (raw) mixed in 1 T. mayo and 1 T. cream with a bit of water added to create a dressing. No sweeteners added. 1 glass unsweetened tea. Throughout Evening... had a glass of tea and about 20 ounces more water. I took no Glucomannan today just to see what you all had to say about it. I don't think not taking it effected my eating habits. My problem is not with food portions, just how my body reacts to eating foods with carbs, and I happen to love carb loaded foods. So even if I eat normal sized portions, but eat pasta or breads, things like that, I gain weight. My goal with this supplement is only to use it as fiber. I could use something else, but this was something my Dad already had around the house, so I opted to use it rather than to buy something else. I checked my ketones today and it looks like all is well. I will have to check again when I use the Glucomannan and see if there is any difference. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts! I appreciate it!

[Georgiana]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

I opted to use it rather than to buy something else.

It's just as fine to use this as it is to use other fiber supplements, like Metamucil.

I will have to check again when I use the Glucomannan and see if there is any difference.

Ketones may not register on the stick even when you are in ketosis, because Ketostix only measure the concentration of excess acetoacetate (one kind of ketone) excreted by the body in urine. Even though there might be no acetoacetate in urine (or not enough for the concentration to be above the threshold of the sticks), there's still ketone bodies in your blood... resulting from the body using fat as its primary source of fuel... which is what Dr. Atkins defined as ketosis.

You might want to read this:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/82407-article-ketostix-color.html

[2big4mysize]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

If I took it for that reason, I'd agree with you. I'm taking it as a fiber supplement. I do not find it "filling" or appetite suppressing at all. If that is what it is only designed for, for me, it fails to do the job. I don't have trouble with portion control. I am not even sure I am eating enough for the best metabolic burn. I do know I need more fiber, so that is why I decided to take it. My meals for today were as follows: Breakfast: 3 eggs, scrambled, one beef "sausage" patty, 1 cup coffee with 1-1/2 T. cream. 20 ounces water. Lunch: 2 cups Spring Mix Salad, 1 T. of bleu cheese dressing, 1 grilled chicken breast. No snacks - water throughout day 40 ounces Supper: Rotisserie chicken, skinless, one thigh and leg, small portion of white meat (leftovers) - 1-1/2 cup coleslaw (raw) mixed in 1 T. mayo and 1 T. cream with a bit of water added to create a dressing. No sweeteners added. 1 glass unsweetened tea. Throughout Evening... had a glass of tea and about 20 ounces more water. I took no Glucomannan today just to see what you all had to say about it. I don't think not taking it effected my eating habits. My problem is not with food portions, just how my body reacts to eating foods with carbs, and I happen to love carb loaded foods. So even if I eat normal sized portions, but eat pasta or breads, things like that, I gain weight. My goal with this supplement is only to use it as fiber. I could use something else, but this was something my Dad already had around the house, so I opted to use it rather than to buy something else. I checked my ketones today and it looks like all is well. I will have to check again when I use the Glucomannan and see if there is any difference. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts! I appreciate it!

sounds like you have portion controll going on.
why did you take the skin off the chicken do you just not like it? if so then you need to add a fat to your protein source cause atkins is high fat about 65% of your cals should be coming from your fats each time you eat with about 30% from your proteins for induction eating.

[hopeforme]

Re: Glucomannan? Can you use this on induction?

It's just as fine to use this as it is to use other fiber supplements, like Metamucil.

Ketones may not register on the stick even when you are in ketosis, because Ketostix only measure the concentration of excess acetoacetate (one kind of ketone) excreted by the body in urine. Even though there might be no acetoacetate in urine (or not enough for the concentration to be above the threshold of the sticks), there's still ketone bodies in your blood... resulting from the body using fat as its primary source of fuel... which is what Dr. Atkins defined as ketosis.

You might want to read this:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...tix-color.html

Thank you for the link. It was helpful and will keep my from wondering what is going on if it did not register as I expected!