What's in shakes and bars?

[Fisch Foods]

Hey there,

I appreciate all of your patience with my husband and I being newbies, and all the questions I ask. I'm sure the same questions get old.

We have now stopped the Atkins shakes and the bars (even if they say induction), and are right back on track. I'm also reading the book again to reference it....I'd really like to memorize the darn thing. LOL!!!

I'd like to know what ingredient(s) are in these products though that stall weight loss. That way I can keep an eye out for it in the future.

We obviously don't eat anything right now that has ANY special ingredients in it since we're just strictly meats, veggies, and some cheese. I do think it would be good knowledge to have though.

Oh....and by the way....the tomato sauce that I was getting frustrated with that had 2grams of sugar....it wasn't an added ingredients. So, Atkinsgal08..you were right. It must've just been in the tomatoes they used, because it was organic tomato sauce and sugar was NOT an ingredient. I only used 2 tablespoons of it though.

Thank you!!!

[atkinsgal08]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

>> I'd like to know what ingredient(s) are in these products though that stall weight loss.>>

Hard to know if it's a specific ingredient.

Some might blame the artificial sweeteners and the glycerine.

>>t must've just been in the tomatoes they used,>>

You understand that food has carbohydrate, right? Unless it's most meat or water! And that carbohydrate shows up on the nutritional label as "sugar".

You might want to review that section in your copy of the book on "How to Read a Food Label".

[Fisch Foods]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

Yes, I know about the carbs, it's just a little overwhelming knowing how many carbs are in what. I'm actually kind of bummed that broccoli has as many carbs as it does, because my husband LOVES broccoli.

It's just very time consuming (but hopefully worth it) to measure everything out. I want to make sure that we're not getting too much of something. (referring to measuring out a cup of these vegetables and that much cheese) I'm going to buy a digital scale.

We measured ourselves last night. So, we can really know what progress we've made. Even though my husband hasn't lost another pound, he went another loop on his belt. So, that was pretty exciting.

I'm going to set up a calendar of walking and eating (snacks and regular meals). So that way we can cross of each day of accomplishments...hopefully.

Please let me know if I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. I need somebody to "keep me in line" with the rules. So, if you see something that's wrong....call me out, because I'm still learning.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

>>I'm actually kind of bummed that broccoli has as many carbs as it does,>>

It's not very many ... you have to subtract the fiber to get the net carbs that we count on Atkins.

According to the Atkins carb counter book, 1/2 cup raw florets is 0.8 net carbs.

>>Even though my husband hasn't lost another pound, he went another loop on his belt.>>

That's how people lose ... inches sometimes go before pounds.

That's why relying on the scale can be frustrating and futile.

[thefemalegreenday]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

Half a cup is hardly anything though =P
I totally get what you mean Fisch Foods, for me I love cabbage, Im always trying to cheat and stuff as much cabbage as I can into my coffee cup XD

[2big4mysize]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

glad you decided to give up the frankenfood.

it isn't the ingredients so much as the reasoning behind those mythical magical noncounted counting carbs.

tests are done on volunteer subjects and the inital study was based on 10 count them 10 healthy normal weight guys. Blood was drawn before after and up to 2 hopurs after thwey ate the compound to see if the compound being tested cause a blood sugar change.

based on that small study there was an explosion of net effective carb foods claiming we didn't need to count X,Y or Z cause it didn't raise blood sugar.
Later more studies were done confirming those 2 hr blood sugar results

Well there are some serious flaws in the design of those studies. Many diabetics were noticing spikes on their meters after having a frankenfood and figuring the carbs without those X, Y and Z compounds.
the intestinal flora of test subjects were never checked and many of those noncounted items are yummy food for many types of healthy intestinal bacteria which then produces some digestible stuff for us.

Some folk have intestinal enzymes that will fracture those "nondigested compounds" into digested compounds. Some folk have very slow motility in their intestines and the longer the stuff sits the more can be absorbed.

The bottom line is the low carb food makers petetioned the FDA back in the early 2000s to allow them to list those mythical magical noncounted counting carbs under fiber on nutrtional labels since according to the food manufacturers claims they were not digested which is the definition of fiber.

The FDA bless their hearts examined the supporting documents about those effects and rejected the claim stating those things were not fiber and could not be listed as fiber since they did not enter the mouth and exit the rearend unmetabolized.

The EU went even further and required their frankenfood manufactureres to count some of the cals in the sugar alcohols because they had proof they were metabolized.

And thus those net effective carbs boxes were born because net carbs orginally were just total minus fiber on Dr Atkins website.

You may discover you are one of a few lucky folk who can use them as part of their Atkins. Those folk usually have a high CCLL so the carbs in the bars and candies don't have much impact caus if your CCLL is 100 and you are eating your carbs at 40 from real foods adding a 30 carb bar isn't going to stall you out

Glad you could enjoy your pizza with the natural sugars in the tomatoes and not any added to the sauce sugars.

[ziggy]

Re: What's in shakes and bars?

broccoli is low in net carbs you don't count fiber the stems are where most of the fiber is but since i don't like eaching much fiber cause to much upsets my gut i cut mostly all the stems off and just eat the top flower parts thats where all the vitamins are anyways


and as for the shakes the last time i saw them they had soy in them

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and the bars have sugar alcohals and some people can absorb up to half of them which would make the net carb count way higher