a question on daily fat consumption?

[kareena]

okay guys so im a bit worried abt my daily fat consumption,
i eat half a block of regular sized butter everyday!! is that alrite?? i love butter!! & use olive & canola oil liberally wen frying & in omelets & in basically everything i cook..
this is all safe & okay right?? i shud not b worried?? or is there a limitation on daily fat consumption as well??
thanku

[Georgiana]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

What's a block? 4 oz?

I don't think 2 oz of butter per day is too much. However, it also depends on how much other fat you consume.

If you eat more calories than you are consuming, then you will gain weight (even on Atkins) regardless of which macronutrient those calories come from.

Also, you might be undereating protein, which may lead to lean body mass loss.

[kareena]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

thanks alot for ur reply georgiana
okay i just checked,butter size is 250 g which equates to abt 8.8 oz..protein consumption is fine i think,i eat half a chicken for lunch,3 eggs for breakfast & mince lamb kebabs for dinner usually

[Georgiana]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

i just checked,butter size is 250 g which equates to abt 8.8 oz..protein consumption is fine i think,i eat half a chicken for lunch,3 eggs for breakfast & mince lamb kebabs for dinner usually

Sounds fine, as long as you are eating only to satisfy your appetite, are losing weight and are eating your vegetable net carbs.

Are you in Induction or OWL? I noticed you have little weight left to lose.

[kareena]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

thanx for the quick reply georgiana!!
yes i have 15lbs left to lose...im losing really slowly but it's alrite (as long as i don't stall
but that's certainly my own doing as i had a major binge last week!! back on induction for two/three days for now but will move to OWL next week...
wat's ur goal weight??

[LCer09]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

If you eat more calories than you are consuming, then you will gain weight (even on Atkins) regardless of which macronutrient those calories come from.

Really? Why would you say that? The main thing that got Dr. Atkins so excited about this diet was that this is NOT true, that unburnt calories can and will be excreted, making it very possible to eat more than you burn AND lose weight. Or that's what I read anyway, several times.

[Georgiana]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Really? Why would you say that?

Which part? That one can gain weight on Atkins?

unburnt calories can and will be excreted

Calories are nothing but a unit of energy. Therefore, they cannot be "excreted". What exactly do you think is excreted? It needs to be something material.

making it very possible to eat more than you burn AND lose weight.

That's not correct. It is true that one can eat more on Atkins. This is due to the so-called "metabolic advantage" of a low-carbohydrate way of eating. However, the metabolic advantage does not defy the laws of thermodynamics -- if one takes in more calories than one uses, then one will gain weight.

And Dr. Atkins did not believe otherwise, if you read the FAQ at the end of Chapter 11 in DANDR 2002:

"Although there is no need to count calories, they do matter. Gaining weight results from taking in more calories than you expend through exercise, thermogenesis (the body's own heat production) and other metabolic functions. Research has shown that on a controlled carbohydrate program, more calories are burned than in a low-fat/high-carb diet, so there is a certain metabolic advantage to the controlled carb approach. But understand that this does not give you a license to gorge."

[thefemalegreenday]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Totally.
Some people have amazing metabolisms, eat loads and still lose.
=/ most people have a moderate limit.

[kareena]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

the beauty of this diet is that the protein-fat combo is so fantastic & satiating that u don't feel hungry for good 4-5 hours anyways!! include two small snacks & impossible to 'gorge' on any food at all !!

[jeffgail]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Yes and no on the calorie cunsumption. Fat calories use nocalories to digest in the system. Carbs use 10% of ingested to metabolize, and protein uses 25% of consumption just to metabolize. If you burn 3500 calories a day (1 lb of fat) but ingest 3500 calories of fat, you will not lose weight. 3500 calories of pure protein in same situation you will lose 1/4 lb of fat per day.

[liv]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Yes and no on the calorie cunsumption. Fat calories use nocalories to digest in the system. Carbs use 10% of ingested to metabolize, and protein uses 25% of consumption just to metabolize. If you burn 3500 calories a day (1 lb of fat) but ingest 3500 calories of fat, you will not lose weight. 3500 calories of pure protein in same situation you will lose 1/4 lb of fat per day.

I think you may want to read DANDR to check out how we think about far and protein and carbs when we low carb which is different than those who stay with the calorie parameter. When we low carb we do not want a lot of glucose in our system because of how we metabolize - eating a lot of protein would be counter productive to what we are trying to do.

[Georgiana]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

wat's ur goal weight??

Sorry, I missed this question.

My goal weight... I don't know. I might be there already. I'm not aiming for a specific number. When I'll be comfortable with the way I look and feel (and I am now, I just have to convince myself, I think), I'll just call it Maintenance.

[2big4mysize]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Yes and no on the calorie cunsumption. Fat calories use nocalories to digest in the system. Carbs use 10% of ingested to metabolize, and protein uses 25% of consumption just to metabolize. If you burn 3500 calories a day (1 lb of fat) but ingest 3500 calories of fat, you will not lose weight. 3500 calories of pure protein in same situation you will lose 1/4 lb of fat per day.

where did you get your info from? carbs use the least amount of ingested cals to metabolis of all 3 which is why lowering the carbs and upping the fats and proteins gives us the atkins metabolic advantace.

[LCer09]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

That's not correct. It is true that one can eat more on Atkins. This is due to the so-called "metabolic advantage" of a low-carbohydrate way of eating. However, the metabolic advantage does not defy the laws of thermodynamics -- if one takes in more calories than one uses, then one will gain weight.

So explain the metabolic advantage then? Because Dr. Atkins was pretty specific about it. The laws of thermodynamics apply to closed systems, which the human body is not, correct?

This is why I always end up staying off these boards for years at a time. Because it depresses me to read the kind of dieting advice ("eat less, exercise more! blah, blah...) that made me confused and fat still being sung over and over. I lost weight and kept it off because Dr. Atkins showed HOW the metabolic advantage works. And was VERY insistent that nobody should every go hungry, for any reason. Even emotional hunger. Craving a snack and being able to go fry up some bacon for crispy saltyness saved my butt. Literally. Atkins isn't just a "diet with different food" as far as I'm concerned. I didn't know him personally, but I did read every book he ever wrote. And it didn't seem like that was his intent to me either...

Enough of this. I just got some new Brooks running shoes and it's a beautiful day. God bless Dr. Atkins AND whoever invented motion control shoes so I can run with my flat, pronating feet. I spend a lot more of my summer in swimsuits since discovering both.

[2big4mysize]

Re: a question on daily fat consumption?

Originally Posted by Georgiana

That's not correct. It is true that one can eat more on Atkins. This is due to the so-called "metabolic advantage" of a low-carbohydrate way of eating. However, the metabolic advantage does not defy the laws of thermodynamics -- if one takes in more calories than one uses, then one will gain weight.

So explain the metabolic advantage then? Because Dr. Atkins was pretty specific about it. The laws of thermodynamics apply to closed systems, which the human body is not, correct?.......

.

First welcome back to ADBB

Actually Dr Atkins in DANDR 2002 says exactly what Georgiana says in the Q and A of chapter 11. you know how bad I type and spell so you may want to look it up yourself but it says on page 143 of the paperback


"although there is no need to count calories they do matter. Gaining weight results from taking in more calories then you expend through exercise, thermogenesis ( the body's own heat production) and other metabolic functions.
Research has shown that on a controlled carbohydrate program more calories are burned than in low fat/high carb diet, so there is a certain metabolic advantage to the controlled carb approach. BUT understand that this does not give you a license to gorge." Dr Atkins DANDR 2002


as you can see Dr Atkins explains it just like she does.

the laws of thermodynamics apply to the human body too.
We can consume more cals because it takes the human body more energy to process the Atkins induction eating high fat moderate protein low carb foods from mouth to body energy units then it does the high carb moderate fate low protein USDA food plan, 25-30% more depending on how high one eats theri proteins fats and carbs in their atkins eating. That body fuel surcharge for lack of a better name explains the higher cals on atkins getting the same or better weight loss then that of somebody doing the standard limited cal high carb diet. if one ate 1200 cals following the 2002 USDA recommended 60% carbs 30% fats and 10% proteins they could eat 1500-1560 cals with their fats at 65% proteins at 30% and carbs at 5% and effect the same dietary-body energy calorie deficiet.

the actual amount anybody can consume will be an individual number based on the amount of cals they as Dr Atkins said burn from all possible sources.