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  • Noobie

    Hello,

    I'm a big guy at 5'10" and currently at 433 lbs (Man that was hard to type). I started a low carb diet on Feb 28/07 and have currently lost 27 lbs. I'm a Type 2 diabetic and unfortunately carry most of my weight on my trunk.

    My sister had lost a lot of weight on the Atkins diet (but gained it back) and has been giving me tips on how to lower my Carb intake. However, after reading some of the rules of induction I know I haven't been as strict as I should be.

    Today I ran out (ok I walked out ) and bought the Diet Revolution, Carb Gram Counter and The Atkins Essentials. Once I have a chance to give it a read through I hope to start the (real) induction phase.

    My first goal is to have a clean induction phase and the second goal is to get to 399 lbs.

    Now I have a couple of questions:
    1. I didn't realize it at the time but I bought the original DADR (copyright 1972). Is there a lot of differences between this one and the 2002 version?
    2. I bought whipping cream because it has 0 carbs but that type of cream is not on the lists. Is it okay to eat this during the induction phase?
    3. I see people suggest drinking half your weight in ounces of water. Do I really have to drink 1.7 gallons?
    4. I have seen mentioned that you should eat your BMR requirements but mine is like 4692!!!
    Thanks everyone.
    Last edited by Shaemess; April 2, 2007, 02:39 PM.



    Age: 36/ male
    Height: 5'10"
    Starting Weight: 460 (March 1/ 07)
    Current Weight: 338 (Nov 11/ 07)
    Total lost so far: 122 pounds!!
    1st goal: Clean 14 day induction (Achieved)
    2nd goal: 399 (to get out of the 400's.) (Achieved June 17/ 07)
    3rd goal: 350 (Achieved Oct 10/ 07)
    4th goal: 340 (Achieved Nov 11/07)
    5th goal: 320
    6th goal: 299 (to get out of the 300's)
    7th goal: 280
    8th goal: ??? (Not sure yet.)

    ...................

  • #2
    Re: Noobie

    Hey buddy what's up! Welcome to the board Shaemess!

    My name is Scooter, let me be the first to welcome you here today. Dude, excellent job 27 pounds. Even though you say you didn't do it 'clean' 27 pounds is nothing to shirk away!! I applaud your efforts. This board shares power, determination, dedication, all kinds of stuff my friend. Check out all the forums and make some posts and don't be a stranger. This is the PLACE to be!

    Now, lets see if I can help you on your questions so far. Great job purchasing the DANDR book, I'm not sure what the differences in the 72 versus the 02 edition, maybe some of our Atkineers could help with that one (Sallyseachange, Sillygirl, Dreamsof145, BoonieStomper????)

    Heavy cream and heavy whipping cream are the same thing, yes it says zero carbs, but you are allow 3 tablespoons of it daily. I count 1 carb per tablespoon on that.

    Just have a friend take a picture of you now standing up. I took mine in sweat pants and an ugly comfortable shirt, because that's all I had for hanging around the house clothes.

    Now. That being said, here is something that worked for me, man. Take that picture. Print out a couple of them. Tape one to your bathroom mirror. That way you see that picture everyday. Day in day out (yes...mine is still on the bathroom mirror) and put the other one on your Refrigerator. (Big time motivator) (Bigtime). I took a picture at every 25 pounds. To mark my progress so to speak!

    I originally wanted to lose 100 pounds. I weighed 295 and I'm 3/4 of the way to goal and still working on it. It has been relatively painless and simple. I see you have set an intial goal. Excellent. Goals and mini-goals give you something to cross off. It's not a goal until you write it down. You can't keep it in your head. I've learned over the years from various motivational guys, crossing off a completed goal is almost as good as reaching that goal in the first place!! Do this. I swear by it!!

    Okay, not you've got you book, here are some really cool, threads with daily reminders:

    Rules of induction:
    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard....read.php?t=6782
    Acceptable foods:
    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard....read.php?t=6781

    Those are great links.

    Now, 'variety'. So many people (sadly) refer to this as a 'Diet' or that 'Bacon and Eggs Diet'. Sigh. No. It's not. Low Fat is a Diet. High Protein only is a Diet. Weigh Watchers is a Diet. So let's just take that little word 'Diet or the D word' and put it in this little box and never mention it again, shall we?? Good.

    This is a lifestyle change. There is no race to the finish line. It doesn't have to all come off in a month or two, there'll be temptation, yes, but it's not a race. You are changing the way you plan to eat for the rest of your life. No one is saying you'll never have another apple, another piece of bread, etc. Those things all come into play many rungs from now, but they will be there for the select individuals that want them added back in. Anyway, off track..variety, I hear lots of people say, Scooter, I'm so bored with what I'm eating. Hmm...Lets see your menu.

    Breakfast 2 eggs.
    Snack Cheese
    Lunch salad
    Snack cheese
    dinner broccoli and chicken with skin
    snack jello.

    'I eat that everyday' Well it's a wonder you've lasted this long. Yike!! haha.
    You gotta have variety. Variety is the Spice of Life they say....so....
    Check out this site:

    Awesome Recipes:
    http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/index.html
    (refered to as Linda's Low Carb) She has menu's, main dishes, tried dishes, side dishes, heck she even posts the ones that were terrible haha.....but point being, she tried it and moved on. She posts them, because just maybe somebody else suggests that magic ingredient to take it from (1 Star to 5 star!!) sweet. Anyway, check out those recipes. The ones marked with an (* asterisk) are induction friendly!!

    So you've got your goals, you've got your rules, you've got your recipes, now unless you like writing a novel everyday in and out of what you are eating, sign up for a free account at one of these sites:

    Caloric Counter/Carbs/Protein/Etc/Reports:
    www.fitday.com (Free on-line, this is awesome!!) or some members use this one
    http://www.thedailyplate.com

    Anyway, congrats on going low carb, make sure you jump around the forums and make your presence known, we are very happy to have you with us!!
    Best of wishes! Life is good!
    Scooter







    Remember this everyday - Something Wonderful Is Going To Happen Today. If you live by that decree you will live life to the fullist.

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    • #3
      Re: Noobie

      Welcome to Shaemess!

      Only thing I can add is definitely go back and get the 2002 edition of the book. For the most part there are a lot of small changes that have been made and a couple of big ones, too...well more than I have time to sit here and list anyway Not to mention that a lot of the terminology has changed so you may not know what the heck we're talking about because teh 1972 version used different terms.

      Best of luck on your weight loss journey and if you need anything just give a shout!

      ~Far la bella figura!
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      Start Date: Feb. 1st, 2006
      Goal Reached: Nov. 25th, 2006
      Age: 25 male
      Height: 6' 3"
      Waist: 29" (was 44")
      BMI: 18.7 (down from 35.6)
      Starting Weight: 285
      Current Weight: 155 (130lb lost)
      Goal Weight: 175




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      • #4
        Re: Noobie

        Welcome, Shaemess!

        Congrats on your loss so far. I know you're going to do great! There are a lot of people here with an incredible amount of knowledge so anything you need, don't be afraid to ask.

        Good luck!

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        • #5
          Re: Noobie

          Shaemess, welcome to the board! Yes, you must get the 2002 edition of DANDR. There have been changes and the newer ones are easier to understand as well.

          Good luck to you on your adventure! You can do it!

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          • #6
            Re: Noobie

            Thanks everyone for your support, especially after looking at the Before and after pics.

            I was looking at some of the recipes and she includes eggs in her carb counts but I thought you could eat as many of them as you want without having to count them.

            And Jace, it's nice to see another Canuck.



            Age: 36/ male
            Height: 5'10"
            Starting Weight: 460 (March 1/ 07)
            Current Weight: 338 (Nov 11/ 07)
            Total lost so far: 122 pounds!!
            1st goal: Clean 14 day induction (Achieved)
            2nd goal: 399 (to get out of the 400's.) (Achieved June 17/ 07)
            3rd goal: 350 (Achieved Oct 10/ 07)
            4th goal: 340 (Achieved Nov 11/07)
            5th goal: 320
            6th goal: 299 (to get out of the 300's)
            7th goal: 280
            8th goal: ??? (Not sure yet.)

            ...................

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            • #7
              Re: Noobie

              Welcome Noobie. Glad you found us here at ADBB. Congrats on your success so far!

              Sounds like you're all agog and determined to succeed! That's cool. And it's really good news that you got hold of the book (even though the 2002 version is the one this board goes by)...

              Seems that most of your questions got answered, so I'll just give you a couple of links on water consumption (your question No. 3):

              http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6779 What counts as water

              http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6778 The importance of water

              Hope these help.

              Re your query as to how much you should eat... well the important thing is to feed only your hunger. It can take a little practice to know when you are no longer hungry, but if you eat a reasonable portion of food, then wait 20 mins and see if you're still hungry, that's one way to start training yourself. Neither should you undereat as, if you do, your body will lapse into starvation mode and try to conserve as much as possible. This will hinder your weight loss. So... it's just a question of finding the right balance between hunger and satiation (did I make up that word??). If you do that, and keep your carbs under 20 grams (but still eat your 3 cups of veggies) you'll be fine.

              What plans do you have for the exercise part of this programme? There are lots of challenges you could join, all of which are fun and motivating.

              Happy losing!
              Before and after:






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              Completed: 1st set of buildings and mountains (Everest,M.Blanc & Kilimanjaro, twice); Tower Masts & Chimneys; More virtual buildings; Challenger's Choice x 2 (volcanos and mountains on Mars). Currently climbing: Mount Snowdon again: 416/475

              Start 10 Jan 2005. Maintenance since Aug. 2005.
              F/56yrs/5'.4"
              SW:77.7 LW:56.5 CW:60.1 (kilos)

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              • #8
                Re: Noobie

                Yup! We count carbs in everything we eat my friend. From a teaspoon of SF Chili Powder (1 Carb) to a Tablespoon of Heavy Cream (1 Carb) to a cup of coffee (2 Carbs) to an egg (.06 Carbs). Remember as Sally said, it's IF your hungry, you eat, not eat as much as you want or think you want!!

                Best of luck!
                Scooter







                Remember this everyday - Something Wonderful Is Going To Happen Today. If you live by that decree you will live life to the fullist.

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                • #9
                  Re: Noobie

                  Welcome!
                  Perhaps you and your sister can lose the weight together. It will help to sharing information you find researching, to coming up with new food receipes.
                  I have the 2002 book but there are alot of people that like the 72 version. I dont own that copy to compare the too really.
                  Goodluck!
                  "Without struggle, there is no progress."

                  You can't eat your cake and have it your way. Darn.



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                  • #10
                    Re: Noobie

                    Hi Sheamess!

                    I am new too - so we will be able to support each other - Fantastic start!! Well done you!



                    44 yr old Female 5'9" Tall, Determined!
                    Start weight: 196lbs
                    CW 181 lbs.
                    Goal weight :160lbs by Summer Holiday (April/june 08 .LOL)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Noobie

                      Heavy cream and heavy whipping cream are the same thing, yes it says zero carbs, but you are allow 3 tablespoons of it daily. I count 1 carb per tablespoon on that.

                      I am soooo confused. Why is it in the book it says to check lables. If it says it has no Carbs, why do you count them as 1 as Scooter said.
                      Please splain to me Lucy!!!

                      This now leads me to belive other things like my Ceaser salad dressing that states 0 carbs now has carbs in it.

                      What is the rule of thumb???


                      You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you might find, you get what you need.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Noobie

                        Originally posted by cheers2you
                        Welcome!
                        Perhaps you and your sister can lose the weight together. It will help to sharing information you find researching, to coming up with new food receipes.
                        I have the 2002 book but there are alot of people that like the 72 version. I dont own that copy to compare the too really.
                        Goodluck!
                        I asked my sister about it and she said that right now her life is upside down and with their money troubles (husband lost his job) she can't afford to throw out her freezer of high carb food.

                        Originally posted by Uk Girl
                        Hi Sheamess!

                        I am new too - so we will be able to support each other - Fantastic start!! Well done you!
                        Welcome to and that would be great!

                        Originally posted by candoit59
                        Heavy cream and heavy whipping cream are the same thing, yes it says zero carbs, but you are allow 3 tablespoons of it daily. I count 1 carb per tablespoon on that.

                        I am soooo confused. Why is it in the book it says to check lables. If it says it has no Carbs, why do you count them as 1 as Scooter said.
                        Please splain to me Lucy!!!

                        This now leads me to belive other things like my Ceaser salad dressing that states 0 carbs now has carbs in it.

                        What is the rule of thumb???

                        I'm still working my way through the book but I have to echo candoit59 confusion with the carb thing. Everywhere I read it says to eat 20 grams of carbs which is equal to 3 cups of veggies (which you have to have). But if I have a 4 egg omelet with a Tablespoon of heavy cream that's almost 5 grams of carbs which is pretty close to 1 cup of Veggies.



                        Age: 36/ male
                        Height: 5'10"
                        Starting Weight: 460 (March 1/ 07)
                        Current Weight: 338 (Nov 11/ 07)
                        Total lost so far: 122 pounds!!
                        1st goal: Clean 14 day induction (Achieved)
                        2nd goal: 399 (to get out of the 400's.) (Achieved June 17/ 07)
                        3rd goal: 350 (Achieved Oct 10/ 07)
                        4th goal: 340 (Achieved Nov 11/07)
                        5th goal: 320
                        6th goal: 299 (to get out of the 300's)
                        7th goal: 280
                        8th goal: ??? (Not sure yet.)

                        ...................

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                        • #13
                          Re: Noobie

                          OMG Is there really 2 carbs in a cup of coffee - I drink about 10 cups of black decaf a day!



                          44 yr old Female 5'9" Tall, Determined!
                          Start weight: 196lbs
                          CW 181 lbs.
                          Goal weight :160lbs by Summer Holiday (April/june 08 .LOL)

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                          • #14
                            Re: Noobie

                            Yup UK girl.....right there is 20 carbs........eye opener huh (of course that an 8 oz mug...) hopefully you're using a smaller cup.

                            Guys, I understand the confusion, trust me, been there done that. The labeling thing is based on 'servings' now a serving is so small sometimes the 'label police' as I like to refer to them as, say...well it doesn't have that many carbs, say 0 or less than 0. That's all fine and dandy till you have 2 / 3 servings....and then it's on! To quote the band Spinal Tap.....

                            "It's a fine line between clever and really stupid......." \

                            It's like calling sugar....dextrose.....or gluclose......or moron-close.......no matter what....even if it says no sugar and ends in 'trose or close' it's sugar.
                            Scooter







                            Remember this everyday - Something Wonderful Is Going To Happen Today. If you live by that decree you will live life to the fullist.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Noobie

                              Originally posted by Scooterjam
                              The labeling thing is based on 'servings' now a serving is so small sometimes the 'label police' as I like to refer to them as, say...well it doesn't have that many carbs, say 0 or less than 0. That's all fine and dandy till you have 2 / 3 servings....and then it's on!
                              Well that really sucks. They should be all be committed to a loony-bin for 20 years and forced to sit beside someone that's crocheting something that isn't there.

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                              Last edited by sillygirl; July 24, 2007, 10:43 AM.



                              Age: 36/ male
                              Height: 5'10"
                              Starting Weight: 460 (March 1/ 07)
                              Current Weight: 338 (Nov 11/ 07)
                              Total lost so far: 122 pounds!!
                              1st goal: Clean 14 day induction (Achieved)
                              2nd goal: 399 (to get out of the 400's.) (Achieved June 17/ 07)
                              3rd goal: 350 (Achieved Oct 10/ 07)
                              4th goal: 340 (Achieved Nov 11/07)
                              5th goal: 320
                              6th goal: 299 (to get out of the 300's)
                              7th goal: 280
                              8th goal: ??? (Not sure yet.)

                              ...................

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