Hey everyone!

[jasmina]

Sooo - I'm very excited to try this new lifestyle and I am planning on starting tomorow. I realize that I only need to lose 10 pounds but I hear that it is the hardest!
I know that in phase one your supposed to lose 5-10 pounds but since I only need to lose 10 I hope I lose about 1 pound a week but I;m not too sure what will happen. I decided to write something just for moral support especially since I give in to temptation very easily!
Also I was wondering- since I will probably only lose around 1 pound a week do I need to do induction for longer than 2 weeks or will my body plateau?
Thanks!!!! =)

[sugarkang]

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If you're only trying to lose 10 lbs., you might not even want to do induction. My goals were also somewhat modest. I was trying to lose 25 lbs total. While on induction, I started losing 1 lb a day. IMO, It's unnecessary for people like you and me with small goals. Try to keep your carbs at 50-70g a day and see how that works out. Use fitday.com and track EVERYTHING because you'll be surprised at how many foods have hidden carbs.

That said, you'll probably lose 10 lbs in less than a month.

[jasmina]

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1 pound a day! that sounds too good to be true hahah, but thanks it gives me lots of hope

[liv]

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Welcome Jasmina. Sometimes losing a few pounds is super hard. I really recommend induction though. It will make you ready for your new life as a low carber.

[Georgiana]

Re: Hey everyone!

Sooo - I'm very excited to try this new lifestyle and I am planning on starting tomorow. I realize that I only need to lose 10 pounds but I hear that it is the hardest!
I know that in phase one your supposed to lose 5-10 pounds but since I only need to lose 10 I hope I lose about 1 pound a week but I;m not too sure what will happen. I decided to write something just for moral support especially since I give in to temptation very easily!
Also I was wondering- since I will probably only lose around 1 pound a week do I need to do induction for longer than 2 weeks or will my body plateau?
Thanks!!!! =)

Welcome to the Board, Jasmina! You should definitely do Induction if you want to get into ketosis by doing Atkins. There is no way to know exactly how much you will lose or whether you will plateau. However, if you want to follow Atkins for life, you should go through all its phases, as described in DANDR.

[EverLosing]

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Hey there! Liv and Georgiana are right on the mark! Follow the DANDR 2002 edition! Induction is the very beginning and it's so important to do it right. It'll give you the best possible start and build a strong foundation for you with this WOE. Welcome to the board! Visit and post often.

[sugarkang]

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OMG, jasmina weighs 130 lbs. NOT 200! She's trying to lose 10 lbs only. Yeah, she CAN do induction but it doesn't mean she SHOULD do induction. Induction is for people who need to lose a lot of weight and/or have big food cravings. Induction will kill a lot of food cravings. Since you only need to lose 10 lbs, it would seem that you don't have huge food issues.

Therefore, induction is possible, but unnecessary. Induction will make you feel like crap. You will feel nauseous, dizzy, vomitous, and without energy. Why would you need to go through that if you just want to lose 10 measly pounds? It's true you will lose it faster, but why put yourself through the pain? If you need to do work or go to school, I do not recommend it. Or at least time the induction so that it falls on a weekend.

[Georgiana]

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Therefore, induction is possible, but unnecessary. Induction will make you feel like crap. You will feel nauseous, dizzy, vomitous, and without energy.

Not all people experience the "Induction flu". I never got it.

Try to keep your carbs at 50-70g a day and see how that works out.

Just because the ant is an insect it doesn't mean all insects are ants. Starting at 50-70 g of net carbohydrate per day is low carb, but it is not Atkins.

[sugarkang]

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Not all people experience the "Induction flu". I never got it.

Yes, but most people DO get it. Wouldn't it make sense to go with mathematical probabilities?

Starting at 50-70 g of net carbohydrate per day is low carb, but it is not Atkins.

How so? It's starting with the OWL stage and it's on the Atkins website. It says for people with "modest goals." I think 10 lbs counts as modest, don't you? I didn't advise her against induction, I just said it was unnecessary. Are you saying that she SHOULD go on induction and likely suffer through the flu despite the fact that she only weighs 130 lbs and likely has a fast metabolism? Please make your case.

[Georgiana]

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Yes, but most people DO get it. Wouldn't it make sense to go with mathematical probabilities?

Those who want to do Atkins should not be phased by the "flu". If one gets it, it is a 1-3 day thing and most people are capable of doing their normal activities in this time. If one is experiences very bad symptoms, Dr. Atkins recommends adding another cup of vegetables or 1-2 oz of nuts or seeds. So based on mathematical probabilities, the "Induction flu" is not as bad as you make it appear.

How so? It's starting with the OWL stage and it's on the Atkins website.

This is the website of the same company that sells Atkins bars as appropriate for Induction although they contain things like soy, milk and nuts. Starting from OWL is not what Dr. Atkins wrote in DANDR. Besides, one does not start OWL at 50-70 g net carbohydrate, because this level might actually be higher than the person's CCLL.

Are you saying that she SHOULD go on induction and likely suffer through the flu despite the fact that she only weighs 130 lbs and likely has a fast metabolism?

No. I am saying that if she wants to follow Atkins and not just a low carb diet, she should do Induction. She will probably not see a loss of 5 lbs, but losing a bunch of weight is not the only purpose of the Induction phase. Please check pages 121-122 in DANDR 2002, because this is the book we go by on ADBB.

[sugarkang]

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Those who want to do Atkins should not be phased by the "flu". If one gets it, it is a 1-3 day thing and most people are capable of doing their normal activities in this time. If one is experiences very bad symptoms, Dr. Atkins recommends adding another cup of vegetables or 1-2 oz of nuts or seeds. So based on mathematical probabilities, the "Induction flu" is not as bad as you make it appear.

Well I'm glad to know that it isn't as bad as I make it appear. Especially when you admitted that you never even experienced induction flu firsthand. Of course the next question would be: Well how do you know if you've never experienced it? I suppose the answer is: because you read the book and you're a moderator! Now of course, I went through induction last week and I can definitely say that I don't want to be DRIVING A CAR or anything while under induction flu, but hey don't mind me. I only have 6 posts under my name and you've got thousands so you must be right.

I swear this place is just cult-like sometimes.

[Georgiana]

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Well I'm glad to know that it isn't as bad as I make it appear. Especially when you admitted that you never even experienced induction flu firsthand. Of course the next question would be: Well how do you know if you've never experienced it? I suppose the answer is: because you read the book and you're a moderator!

That is actually part of it. As I have said, most people who are on this board and complained about "Induction flu" were capable to do their normal activities and got over it in 1-3 days. Furthermore, if one is badly affected by the "flu", he or she should follow Dr. Atkins' advice and add another cup of vegetables or a few nuts, not eat 50-70 g of carbohydrate.

Now of course, I went through induction last week and I can definitely say that I don't want to be DRIVING A CAR or anything while under induction flu, but hey don't mind me. I only have 6 posts under my name and you've got thousands so you must be right.

If you had read the book and not only the Atkins website, you would have known how to deal better with the symptoms.

[Georgiana]

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Jasmina, sorry about your thread hijack. I have just realized that not all your questions were answered.

Sooo - I'm very excited to try this new lifestyle and I am planning on starting tomorow. I realize that I only need to lose 10 pounds but I hear that it is the hardest!

The last 10 lbs are indeed the most difficult to lose. I have been struggling with them for quite some time, but what I can tell you is that they do come off if you have the tenacity to work this way of eating.

I know that in phase one your supposed to lose 5-10 pounds but since I only need to lose 10 I hope I lose about 1 pound a week but I;m not too sure what will happen.

Since this is a lifestyle change, you are here in the long run. Fingers crossed you will lose 2 lbs during Induction, but if you don't, you will lose most of them during OWL, while you are also determining your CCLL.

Also I was wondering- since I will probably only lose around 1 pound a week do I need to do induction for longer than 2 weeks or will my body plateau?

No, you should not extend the two-week Induction phase. Based on his experience with thousands of patients, Dr. Atkins wrote that those people who can benefit from a longer Induction period are those who either have a lot to lose or are metabolically resistant.

Whether your body will plateau if you choose to extend Induction really depends on your individual mileage. Some people do, some don't. I started with relatively little to lose and I stalled after the first two weeks. My weight loss restarted once I moved to OWL and added another 5 g net carbohydrate from vegetables.

Don't forget to exercise, take some nutritional supplements and drink plenty of water.

We have several challenges on ADBB and if you are interested, there are new ones starting in April. You can find them here:
Exercise Challenges - Atkins Diet
and here:
Challenges - Atkins Diet

There is also a 6 Week Exercise Challenge. We are right in the middle of one, but you might want to join the next:
Six Week Challenge/Exercise - Atkins Diet

[Georgiana]

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Well I'm glad to know that it isn't as bad as I make it appear. Especially when you admitted that you never even experienced induction flu firsthand. Of course the next question would be: Well how do you know if you've never experienced it?

Going back to the dirty stuff. sugarkang, if you have done Induction and apparently lost 15 lbs on it (as you mentioned in another thread), why don't you give everybody the chance to have such amazing results! Besides, you should not advise people to eat 50-70 g of carbohydrate and skip Induction, because you admitted that you never tried this firsthand. Well how do you know it works if you've never tried it?

Whether one loses weight or not by eating a certain amount of net carbohyrates depends on that person's CCLL and reaction to different foods. 20 g of net carbohydrate, which is the limit during Induction, is what Dr. Atkins observed it is enough to allow the majority of his patients to get into ketosis within 2-4 days. What is written in the book is not based on Dr. Atkins' guestimates, but on actual research.

[sugarkang]

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why don't you give everybody the chance to have such amazing results! Besides, you should not advise people to eat 50-70 g of carbohydrate and skip Induction, because you admitted that you never tried this firsthand. Well how do you know it works if you've never tried it?

Because I had a lot of success, I want others to have slower results? Right, because I'm just an evil person... I was on induction for two days and I felt horrible. I lost 1 lb on both days and figured that I didn't need to lose weight that quickly. FYI, I'm at 50g carbs now and STILL losing 02.-0.5 lbs daily.

Since OP was only trying to lose 10 lbs, it stands to reason that she has a fast metabolism and does not need to do something extreme like induction.

But whatever. You can lead your cult however you like.