3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

**RosieC** · November 9, 2009, 04:49 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

The fat fast may have been a mistake ... it's intended for people who stall for 4 weeks or more, much further along than you are. Try to relax with the program and trust it as it is written

You might want to stop weighing yourself every day. Once or twice a week will let you focus more on the food and less on weight.

You're right to give up the bars.

**PamH** · November 9, 2009, 04:57 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

Thank you RosieC, you're right, I really didn't make a lot of research about how long should I've been stalled before starting the fat fast, I just felt so anxious because I've never weighed this much. Anyways, you're right, I will give up the scale because it only makes me more anxious, and I already started the fat fast so I'm going to finish it, it's only one day left, and then start induction again. And the bars just wake up the cravings in me even though they don't have sugar, it might be psychological, anyways, it's better to get rid of them.

Thanks for your advice,
Pam

**atkinsgal08** · November 9, 2009, 06:53 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

>>The fat fast may have been a mistake ... it's intended for people who stall for 4 weeks or more,>>

NO IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR THAT!!!!

The fat fast is NOT a stall breaker.

**imagood1** · November 9, 2009, 08:04 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

The best thing you can do is stop eating and drinking the Atkins products - they are produced by a company who is in it to make money, not to make you healthy. They are known to stop or slow weight loss for many people so we don't promote their use until later and then for emergency.

The fat fast is not something you should be doing - as you said you didn't research it enough to know what it's for....following induction 100% the way it's written is what you should do. Remember, Atkins is NOT a quick weight loss "diet".....it's a lifestyle change for a lifetime. You shouldn't compare what your body would allow as far as loosing a year or even 6 months ago....your body is different that it was, and with having a child it has changed even more than if you hadn't had a child.

A few tips to help get you started: Drink a minimum 64 ounces of pure water daily, exercise and take a non-iron multivitamin - these are mandatory with Atkins so start now and get off on the right foot.

I hope you already have the 2002 DANDR book and have read it, it is the edition we follow on this site. If not it's worth a few dollars to purchase.

Don't forget to eat enough vegetables (check the acceptable food list (What foods can be eaten on Induction?)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6781-what-foods-can-eaten-induction.html) - 2 cups from the first list and 1 cup from the 2nd list daily. Rules of Induction: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...induction.html (What are the Rules of Induction?)

The recipe sites will help keep you from eating the same thing over and over -- check them out!

Recipe Sites

http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/menus.html (Linda’s)
(Never ending induction recipes)(Never ending induction recipes)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-diet-14-day-induction/58513-never-ending-induction-recipes.html (induction recipes)
(Never ending induction recipes)(Never ending induction recipes)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-diet-14-day-induction/58513-never-ending-induction-recipes.html# (additional induction recipes)

If you need anything we’re here to help you!! Good luck.

**liv** · November 9, 2009, 10:32 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

Let us know exactly what you eat on tyrpical induction day (and be honest, include amounts and what you drink as well) And perhaps we will stop something.
Fat fast is not going to help - once you go off you'll put on what you lost on it.

**RosieC** · November 10, 2009, 04:10 AM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post

>>The fat fast may have been a mistake ... it's intended for people who stall for 4 weeks or more,>>

NO IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR THAT!!!!

The fat fast is NOT a stall breaker.

OK, sorry. Re-reading it I see that it IS intended for people with extremely low metabolic resistance. Still, I don't think that is proved in this case.

[EDIT: Well in fact ... at the end of chapter 15 ('Engine Stalled', under 'Key Points') Dr A does refer people to chapter 20 if they have tried all other methods of ending a stall and failed, and one of the things covered in chapter 20 is the fat fast. So in certain circumstances the fat fast could be indicated for breaking a stall. But I think we are agreed that is not the case here.]

There were many other things that Pam could have tried first. She has lost SOME weight. There could be virtually no potassium on a fat fast, it tends not to be included in supplements in anything like the required amount and that could be dangerous for somebody who is not supervised.

**chinadoll** · November 10, 2009, 08:30 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

The bars are probably the biggest staller for most folks. As Carole says, stop eating the Atkins products (Dr. Atkins never advocated these processed abominations) and start eating real food from the Induction list. I bet you will see a difference. And don;t get hung up on speed of loss. As long as you are losing weight or inches, just be patient. You didn't put the weight on in 5 kg a week so don't expect it to come off that fast.

**PamH** · November 10, 2009, 08:37 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

Hi, thank you for your responses, you're very kind imagood1, liv and RosieC. I do have the DANDR and have read it, and it doens't say that should be stalled to start making the fat fast, or for how long I should be on induction to start it, it just says you can do it if you're metabolic resistant, so I thought, ok ¡, I'm metabolic resistant, then I can do it. Anyway, I started induction again today, and I eat like this:

8 a.m. - A 3 egg omelette with garlic and a cup of shitaki mushrooms, and 2 ounces of cheese (always two ounces and always weighed)
1 p.m. - 300 or 400 gr. of minced beef with half a small onion and spices, with chilli sauce (only chilli, garlic, salt and some drops of lemon). 2 cups of salad (roman lettuce, rocket and spinach) with some drops of lemon.
7 p.m. 2 hard boiled eggs or 150 gr. of tuna with some drops of limon.

I really don't eat that much, and I don't eat mayo, bacon, not even ham. I weigh everything and I haven't cheated at all in this 3 weeks. I take my vitamin supplements, B-complex. fish oil, and L - carnitine.

I know atkins is not a quick weight loss diet, but I read about a lot of ppl who lose weight so fast and I think, I'm 21 years old, I should lose weight like them!

I am not weighin anymore and I'm gonna do it only every two weeks, but I use the ketosis strips everyday and I'm in deep ketosis, I was in moderate ketosis since day 2. Bad genes? Maybe..

Thankks for your help everyone, Pam.

**PamH** · November 10, 2009, 08:59 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

OK so I posted something and it doens't appear!!! I'll try to write as much as I remember:

Thank you very much for your responses, imagood1, I have the DANDR and have read it, but it doesn't say if I should be stalled or for how long should I be on induction to start doing the fat fast, it just said I can do it if I'm metabolic resistant, si that's why I started it. Thank you very much for the links, I'm reading the recipes now

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chinadoll, thanks for the advice, I won't eat atkins bars again, I really fell for the atkins name, thought they were safe, but well, one learn from their mistakes. I have lost a couple of centimeters in my waist, and decided to weight myself only once every 15 days, anyways I use the ketostix and I'm in deep ketosis, I was in ketosis since day 2, so even though I'm not losing as much as I wanted, I will continue doing atkins because I feel great.

liv, what I eat in a normal day is this:

8 a.m. - A 3 egg omelette with garlic and a cup of shitaki mushrooms, with 2 ounces of cheese (always two ounces and always weighed)

2 p.m. - 300 gr. of minced beef with half a small onion and spices, with chilli sauce (this is 2 chillis and garlic and some lemon drops). 2 cups of salad (roman lettuce, spinach and rocket)

7 p.m. 2 hard boiled eggs with some drops of lemon or 150 grs. of tuna (no mayo, only tuna)

I really don't eat that much, and I drink 8 to 10 8 ounce glasses of water everyday, I rarely drink agreen tea if I don't sleep well, but only one cup as I don't consume caffeine and it doesn't make me feel good. A don't eat mayo, bacon or even ham because I don't trust it, I actually don't buy anything I don't trust. I take my vitamin supplements every day, B complex, fish oil and L carnitine. I have multimineral but it has beeswax, so I don't know if it's ok to take it?

I have lost a couple of centimeters in my waist but that's all, anyways I'm going to continue doing atkins because I just feel great. I know Atkins is not a quick weight loss program, but I read about a lot of people losing a lot of weight in the first weeks that I thought: I'm 21 years old, I should be losing weight like that! So, I'm not hopeless, only a little sad because I thought I could buy some nice clothes for summer, but I guess that won't be happening until next year.

Thanks everyone for your responses,

Pam.

**atkinsgal08** · November 10, 2009, 09:17 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

# 1 ... YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER DOING THE FAT FAST ... you're simply NOT a candidate ... you have lost weight. Therefore, the fat fast isn't indicated.

Period.

Also ... the fat fast should ONLY be done under the supervision of a doctor ... as it's dangerous to anyone that isn't severely metabolically resistant ... and you run the risk of slowing down your metabolism.

>>I read about a lot of people losing a lot of weight in the first weeks>>

Well ... you're not them.

I read about people much taller than me ... and I'm not going to get any taller.

The only person you have to be concerned about is YOU ... YOUR metabolism, YOUR body, YOUR goals.

NO ONE ELSE MATTERS.

>>I thought I could buy some nice clothes for summer>>

Why can't you buy nice clothes now?

>>I'm in deep ketosis>>

There isn't "deep" ketosis ... there just "is".

Check out this article:

Atkins Diet Bulletin Board

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/82407-article-ketostix-color.html

>> I really don't eat that much, and I drink 8 to 10 8 ounce glasses of water everyday>>

Well, I don't really know how much you weigh now, but not eating or drinking enough water can certainly cause one not to lose. 64 ounces probably isn't enough water for you.

One has to eat in order to lose weight on Atkins.

How long ago did you have the baby?

**PamH** · November 10, 2009, 09:22 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

atkinsgal08, that's a bit rude considerong I'm new on atkins and I'm also kind of depressed. My son is 10 months old. And I can but nice clothes but I don't like how they look on me.

**atkinsgal08** · November 10, 2009, 09:25 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

What was rude exactly?

Telling you not to do the Fat Fast and endanger your health?

Since you're son is 10 months, I presume you're not breastfeeding?

>>I don't like how they look on me>>

You'll have to try them on then!

**PamH** · November 10, 2009, 09:29 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

I have tried them on and I look 10 years older! And I stopped breastfeeding 2 months ago. What was rude is the way of saying it, anyways it's ok, everyone has their own ways.

**atkinsgal08** · November 10, 2009, 09:34 PM

Re: 3 weeks in Induction, losing weight VERY slowly and getting desperate, plz help!!

Glad to hear you're not breastfeeding!

Still not sure what "it" I said that was rude ... I was under the impression you wanted/needed help.

Perhaps if you could be more specific as to what you found rude, I could explain in a better way.

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