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    I've noticed most members talk about their aerobic exercising, whether it be Walking, Running, Treadmill, Eliptical, etc.... All of these exercises are great, there doesn't seem to be much mention of weight training. While you should continue to do 15-30 mins of cardio, you should try to incorporate some resistance training as well.

    As you lose weight, you are also losing muscle (including the burning of fuel potential) - it stands to reason that not all the weight you lose is fat, probably (and I am not entirely sure of this ratio - so conservative estimate) 20-30% is muscle, maybe more. So if you lose 100 lbs, you have lost 20-30 lbs of muscle - muscle that could be used to burn more fat. Don't worry, your not going to "bulk up" unless you go really heavy and training like a fanatic. But a good rule of thumb

    3 x week
    M-W-F
    Monday - 3 sets 6-10 reps of a weight that makes you fatigued on the last couple of reps (preferably unable to continue after exercise)
    Do at least 3 different exercises for each group of muscles
    so for

    Monday: LEGS: Squats, Leg Presses, Hamstrings, BACK - Lat pull downs and Some rowing machine. Finish with some crunches. 25-30 mins + 15-30 mins of cardio.

    Wednesday: CHEST: Bench press, Normal, Incline, and Decline. Finish the chest with some dumbell flys.
    SHOULDERS: Military press, Dumbell flys, Upright rows, and shrugs.
    ARMS: Tricep push downs, Bicep curls (these get worked with other exercises too, so you don't have to do as many exercises, but can if they are not fatigued. Finish with some crunches. 25-30 mins + 15-30 mins of cardio.

    Friday: Same as Monday.

    You can do your cardio on other days too, but you will have to figured out what works for you, it is all experimentation with your body and what works for you, just don't lose all that fat-burning muscle walking 10 miles a day with no resistance training.

    I work out 5x week going from biggest muscle to smallest with 20 mins of cardio 4-5x a week.
    Monday: Legs 5 sets 6-10 reps 5 exercises
    Tuesday: Back 5 sets 6-10 reps 4 exercises
    Wednesday: Chest 5 sets 6-10 reps 6 exercises
    Thursday: Shoulders 5 sets 6-10 reps 7 exercises
    Friday: Arms 5 sets 6-10 reps 6 exercises

    In a couple of months I will see how this works out, but you should know your weight loss may slow because muscle is heavier than fat, but it should speed up the fat loss over time and make you very toned.

    All this can be done in 1 to 1.5 hours in the gym (including some cardio (not counting your shower ))

    Best of luck....
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    Re: Weight Training is essential too

    Hi Tim Welcome to ADBB (Don't think I've said hi to ya before)

    I'll wait for 2big to swing in here and pelt you for the 20-30% muscle loss ratio -cuz she's really great at it and has all the studies at her fingertips to back it all up. Your estimate is, however, high!

    There is a lot of talk around here of cardio, but most of the video programs followed around here do incorporate strength training in them.

    I'm curious to know where you pulled your workout routine from.

    Body For Life sounds like it'd be right up your alley too. You might want to check it out! Less time for the workouts and more comprehensive.

    I wish you success!
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      Re: Weight Training is essential too

      Hi ! Surprised to get a response, wasn't trying to put anyone down, just trying to balance it a little.....I actually have someone I work with, a bodybuilder, who is guiding me - I actually work with him at my job.... I was just trying to share some information about weight training...I have tried just cardio and it seems to stall after a while (of course that could be me not increasing), but things I have read have convinced me that weight training is essential too, maybe even more so than just cardio -- I know I just can't do much longer than 30-45 mins on a cardio machine (running isn't an option for me, too hard on my knees at this point). I look forward to the stats being born out too.....But I think they might be low, you just can't lose weight and not lose some muscle too, I don't see how that is possible....we shall see...By the way, you look great, like a different person...
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        Re: Weight Training is essential too

        I do weight training with a personal trainer.

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          Re: Weight Training is essential too

          That's the spirit -- I was just trying to share, for the longest time (being a pretty big guy who used to lift prior to my excessive weight days) all I did was cardio, and I was just trying to share some personal thoughts (self reflection) - I am sure many do lift weights, I just wanted to bring it up and have a discussion on it a bit....This subject seems to get buried with all the other things on this awesome board, Induction, OWL, Grams of Carbs, Vitamins, Is my menu OK?, Atkins for life, Recipes, Whooshies, etc.... All those things are great and need discussion, just wanted to bring the anaerobic side of exercise into the discussion a bit - was not, was not, was not, was not, trying to point fingers -- I am not always as tactful typing as I am in person......heh....
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            Re: Weight Training is essential too

            Hit TT,

            I do weight training almost exclusively. I follow a bodybuilding regimen similar to what you have posted - Mon - Chest, Tues - Back, Wed - Shoulders, Thurs - Arms, Fri - Legs (I do legs last as they are already big from carrying my weight). The whole routine is in the first few pages of my journal in my siggy.

            I am currently slightly restricitng calories and I have found that heavy lifting and slight calorie reduction is my best weight to lose weight and keep muscle. I have added cardio in the past and generally it caused me to lose strength. However if your lifting light/moderate weights cardio should not cannobolize your muscle.

            When I get to my desired weight I will be switching to a moderate lifting/moderate cardio routine to maintain my BF%.

            I know there are some studies out there that compare lifting and cardio for weight loss - I'll try and dig them up later today as they are interesting.

            AJ
            Male 28
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              Re: Weight Training is essential too

              Just wanted to add that weight training is also nice because as you build muscle your LBM (lean body mass) increases. As your LBM increases your basal metabollic rate also increases as muscle requires more caloires every day than fat cells do.

              So basically when your down towards goal - you have lost the fat and I think more importantly you burn more calories daily because of you increased LBM. This may make maintaining easier.

              I know last time when I had gotten down to 185 with 13-15% bodyfat and fell off the wagon that it took a long time for the weight to come back. Eventually it accelerated though as I stopped lifting too and my muscles atrophied.

              Food for thought or thought for food depending - it is almost time for lunch!

              AJ
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                Yes, I love weight training and Cardio I am a die hard LOL. I lift weight 4-5 days per week and run 5 days per week I usually exercise aroud 1-2 hours 6 days per week. I ahve added a lot of LBM since starting atkins. I have 133 LBS of LBM which is excellent for a woman.

                I feel fab look strong and have a 6 pack which rock.

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                  Re: Weight Training is essential too

                  Gosh, don't I feel silly...You all rock (hard)...I have seemed to slip on the weight training in the past and thought just cardio, now I am doing it again and feel great...I just restarted Atkins, so not much weigh loss yet or signs of change, but am sure it will pick up as I keep this up....Thanks for the feedback....thought I would put a pic up, now if I figure out how to resize it...
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                    Re: Weight Training is essential too

                    I'm all about weight training. 2 hours cardio a day and an hour of weight lifting (when it's done right) are how the folks on The Biggest Loser netted huge losses. I'm all about the huge losses.
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                      Re: Weight Training is essential too

                      YAY WEIGHT TRAINING! I'm all for it, too, along with my running .. to me, the combination is a terrific way to mold and shape your body (or RESHAPE IT, in my case!)

                      Thanks for bringing it up, TT!

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                        Re: Weight Training is essential too

                        I have read that too much cardio burns muscle.




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                        • #13
                          Re: Weight Training is essential too

                          Originally posted by mirna05
                          I have read that too much cardio burns muscle.
                          Too much weightlifting can also cause you to lose muscle too! Everything in moderation seems to be a good rule.

                          Your body can handle certain levels of activity, and has many ways of telling you your overdoing it - tiredness, headaches, nauseau, etc...

                          Training is good - overtraining is not whether it be cardio or weights.



                          AJ
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                          Remove the fat and add the muscle!
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                            Re: Weight Training is essential too

                            Isn't that because it ends up still being calories in versus calories out? If you take in 1200 calories and burn in excess of 2000+ a day, you're going to run out of fuel eventually and start breaking down muscle?
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                              Re: Weight Training is essential too

                              Originally posted by cleochatra
                              Isn't that because it ends up still being calories in versus calories out? If you take in 1200 calories and burn in excess of 2000+ a day, you're going to run out of fuel eventually and start breaking down muscle?
                              In my unmedicalist opinion , I believe so.

                              I think it varies though with your body composition to start and what macronutrients your consuming. I have found that with excess bodyfat I can keep a calorie deficit with a higher protein diet and actually add muscle.

                              Then I know most bodybuilders who have 10-12% bodyfat have to eat crazy amounts (3k-4k calories) to add muscle. Maybe it's calories in, calories out, and calories stored in your body?

                              With heavy lifting to failure you also can overtax your nervous system. Real heavy squats are stressfull on your whole body from neck down - rest is very important to keep things from getting ovstressed.

                              AJ
                              Male 28
                              Started Atkins: 10/1/04
                              SW360/CW272.4/GW200 (12%bf?)
                              Remove the fat and add the muscle!
                              85 lbs. of fat Gone!
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