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    nursing on induction???

    Hey everyone... I actually had no clue it was bad to do atkins while nursing- because it is more of a way of life, then a diet. Umm I'm doing induction sort of. I eat 20 carbs a day.. but i eat fruit, veggies, meat, fish, .. and other things- a big variety. I take a multi-vitamin, flax-seed oil supplement, and a calcium supplemtent. My son is 10 1/2 months old. He's allergic to anything (ANYTHING) containing milk, eggs, or peanuts-- which is why i'm still nursing until he's a year old- but because i can't eat any ice cream, cake, donughts, bread or things like that, i did not think atkins would be such a big deal... but all the sudden i heard the mention of TOXIC KETONES IN MY BREAST MILK... and i've never heard this before- what is the deal???
    wow

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    Re: nursing on induction???

    I never had a problem doing LC while nursing. In fact, I made less milk if I ate more carbs. Nothing like a big fat steak to get those ducts producing. The closest I came to noticing a problem was w/ my Splenda - it made DS's pee smell strong/bad. I switched to stevia and he tolerated that just fine. As far as I know he's not had any negative effects from whatever ketones might have come out in my breast milk. He's just over 2 years old and already over 3 feet tall and he's healthy and strong as an ox - the boy just learned to climb the bunk bed w/o the ladder. I do call him my little Atkins baby because he loves meat and veggies - maybe because I ate so much while pregnant w/ him and nursing him? Hmmm..
    Melissa F. - "Modified" Induction start 2/11/10
    HW 330/SW 281.8/CW 279.2/GW 150
    "I can have excuses, or I can have results. I can not have both." -- Dr. Jim Garlow

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    • #3
      Re: nursing on induction???

      I found this. It is a quote from a transcript: Power Surge™ Live!
      Presents Robert C. Atkins, M.D.

      Audience: Is your diet safe to use while breastfeeding a newborn? Or
      should I wait until she is weaned?


      Dr. Robert Atkins: The diet is quite safe for breastfeeding; however, weight
      loss will be painfully slow because of the hormones involved in supporting
      breastfeeding.


      It is nice seeing a picture where I actually have a neck!

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      • #4
        Re: nursing on induction???

        Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! I feel a lot better

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        • #5
          Re: nursing on induction???

          Huh? I thought it was a no-no to nurse while on induction because of the ketones and toxins fat released in our breastmilk. Did I misunderstand? I would have never quit nursing just to do this diet except I thought I read that.
          Mindy
          started 9/1/06 sw-240 weight was 194 at + preg. test. Restart after pregnancy 2/1/08

          SW: 240
          CW: 174
          GW: 140
          minigoal 1: Quit shopping in plus sizes MET
          minigoal 2: 199 ONEderland MET
          minigoal 3: 170 Where I last felt good

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          Current size - 12



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          • #6
            Re: nursing on induction???

            OK - we need to have someone who has ketostiks and breastmilk do a test for us! I thought ketones and stuff were peed out. If they are excreted in breastmilk as well, would they do the same to a baby as they do to us, if ingested? Would we start getting ultra-thin babies?
            Melissa F. - "Modified" Induction start 2/11/10
            HW 330/SW 281.8/CW 279.2/GW 150
            "I can have excuses, or I can have results. I can not have both." -- Dr. Jim Garlow

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            • #7
              Re: nursing on induction???

              http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ad.php?t=42085

              Here's some info I had found. It would have been much healthier for both me and my son if I would have managed to stay on Atkins instead of going back to my old eating habits. Still breastfeeding; still trying to get on track with my eating. Kudos to all who manage it.

              ~ Linda
              5'7" Age: 42 Female

              lowest consistent weight 143
              up to 193; gained weight after baby

              "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ~ Aristotle

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              • #8
                Re: nursing on induction???

                hey everyone- thanks for all the imput-
                I have some ketosticks- and i have tested my breast milk. I have TRACE amounts- my urine has moderate. i don't think its anything serious. Something interesting tho is that my son is happier- not NEARLY as fussy and he sleeps all through the night!! i'm loving that. but of course i don't have him on atkins- he eats toast with jelly, strawberry nutragrain bars, crackers...
                I'm not exactly doing induction by the book- like i mentioned- i eat all the food groups- i just eat 20 net carbs per day...

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                • #9
                  Re: nursing on induction???

                  Something interesting someone mentioned on another board I am on is that babies are naturally in ketosis off and on while being breastfed. I have no info/sources to back that up, but if that's true, then a few extra ketones in breast milk doesn't sound like something horrible for them. I think it's kinda like pregnancy, too. No one wants to recommend it for women, but I was in ketosis - and a lot of women are who have to do a diabetic plan while pregnant - and I always read that societies that don't eat a lot of carbs - and ancient people's too - wouldn't their pregnant women be in ketosis as well? Everything I've learned is that it's a benign product of fat-burning. Nothing like ketoacidosis. As long as your blood sugars are normal ketosis is fine. <shrug> I guess it really depends on how you hear the info first. Is it doom and gloom or something completely natural and safe.
                  Melissa F. - "Modified" Induction start 2/11/10
                  HW 330/SW 281.8/CW 279.2/GW 150
                  "I can have excuses, or I can have results. I can not have both." -- Dr. Jim Garlow

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                  • #10
                    Re: nursing on induction???

                    I just tested my milk as well (ha, been 2 weeks since weaning and there is still some there, lol) and only slight trace amounts (closer to negative though) when urine measured large amounts. Interesting, I was so misinformed!



                    Awesome to know thanks!!!
                    Mindy
                    started 9/1/06 sw-240 weight was 194 at + preg. test. Restart after pregnancy 2/1/08

                    SW: 240
                    CW: 174
                    GW: 140
                    minigoal 1: Quit shopping in plus sizes MET
                    minigoal 2: 199 ONEderland MET
                    minigoal 3: 170 Where I last felt good

                    start pant size - 24
                    Current size - 12



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                    Long term goal for life ticker:



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                    • #11
                      Re: nursing on induction???

                      I had to add this... from Atkins interview with Larry King.

                      KING: OK. Aurora, Illinois, hello.

                      CALLER: Hello. Hi.

                      I have just had a baby two and a half months ago and
                      wondered why it wasn't safe for me to do the Atkins diet.

                      ATKINS: Well, it is safe for you to do the maintenance
                      level of the diet. But you don't want to give the keytones
                      to an infant if you're feeding them breast milk.

                      KING: And she would be getting the keytones from what?

                      ATKINS: From being on a strict version of the diet. But you
                      wouldn't be getting them if you're just on a low
                      carbohydrate maintenance level.


                      It is nice seeing a picture where I actually have a neck!

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                      • #12
                        Re: nursing on induction???

                        Ok, I TOO Thought it was a nono to do induction while nursing. From reading the sticky... But I got the go ahead from my Dr, who is very against Atkins. She said it would not hurt him a bit. What i am more interested in learning about, someone above mentioned that breastfeeding slows wt loss due to the hormones, is this in the book?? Is there validity to it?? If so, it makes up my mind about when to wean.

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                        • #13
                          Re: nursing on induction???

                          Originally posted by valleriek View Post
                          Ok, I TOO Thought it was a nono to do induction while nursing. From reading the sticky... But I got the go ahead from my Dr, who is very against Atkins. She said it would not hurt him a bit. What i am more interested in learning about, someone above mentioned that breastfeeding slows wt loss due to the hormones, is this in the book?? Is there validity to it?? If so, it makes up my mind about when to wean.
                          I can't quote the source but I did see this on the local news just a few weeks ago, about how it's a myth about losing weight while nursing and that it stalls weight loss. After hearing that I went...ahhhhhh because I never nursed my daughter and I gained 70 lbs with her and lost 50 within a few weeks and the other 20 within a couple months. I only gained 30 lbs with my son and nursed him for almost a year and it took me almost a year to start losing at all...hmmmmm...what a coincidence....or is it? lol. Nonetheless, BF'ing benefits outweigh the slowed loss anyway.

                          My way of thinking of it is, there are people that actually eat like this and are not calling it "Atkins" or "Low-Carb", it's just their food preference due to likes and dislikes or cultural factors. And if they were to have a baby and nurse, nobody would have said anything. I think for me my baby would be better off with me on induction foods rather than the crazy sugary cookies, cakes, chocolate, etc...that I would have eaten if I wasn't doing this.
                          ~~ Jane ~~
                          Female
                          Height: 5,1"
                          Start Date: June 18, 2008
                          SW: 163.5
                          CW: 137
                          GW: 120                           (or whatever feels right)



                          Mini-Goal #1: 149 ( met 07/16/08 )
                          Mini-Goal #2: 139
                          Mini-Goal #3: 129
                          Mini-Goal #4: 124





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                          • #14
                            Re: nursing on induction???

                            I'm a little behind getting in on this, but I can totally relate to the quote from Atkins on the first page saying weight loss will be painfully slow while BFing, and also that BFing DOES NOT (always?) assist in PP weight loss. I am nursing a toddler and the weight is coming off very slowly. I seem to have gained weight (lost quite a bit right after he was born, gained it all back not doing anything different) while BFing. As far as induction and BFing, I ingest induction level carbs and have noticed no difference in my toddler at.all. He is 20 months old, has had no complaints of lowered supply, a different taste, his attitude is fine, etc., etc. Had he been younger, I would have started with maintenance level carbs, but he's almost 2 and I'm 100 lbs overweight and I can feel my health failing, so I had to do something. Weaning him early is not an option for me. HTH

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                            • #15
                              Re: nursing on induction???

                              The 2002 edition says that it pregnant and nursing women should not do Induction or OWL, they should do Maintenance. I can't quote the book but when I get home I'll double check that. I know it says that because I'm very careful about what I do when I'm pregnant or nursing.
                              SW: 205 / CW: 205 / GW: 120
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