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    The virtues of Vitamin B!



    Part one of a three part series.



    The vitamin B complex are made up of at least 11 related water-soluble substances, eight of which are considered essential because our bodies can not manufacture these vitamins. The eight essential B vitamins are B1 (thiamin), B2 (riboflavin), B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid), B6 (pyridoxine), B7 (biotin), B9 (folic acid), and B12 (cobalamin). The other three B vitamins that are bodies can synthesize include choline, inositol, and PABA. The reason for the skipping of certain numbers, such as B4, B8, and many others is that those substances were later discovered to be different compounds, but important for the body nonetheless. We know now Vitamin B4 as adenine, for example, a component of DNA.



    The B vitamins have a broad range of functions, including the maintenance of myelin, which is the covering of nerve cells. Problems with myelin can cause a large and devastating variety of neurologic symptoms as well as a variety of emotional disturbances. The B vitamins are also important for producing energy from nutrients that are consumed. Three members of this group—folic acid, pyridoxine, and cobalamin—work together to keep homocysteine levels low, which is vital since high homocysteine levels are associated with heart disease.



    Other B vitamins prevent certain birth defects such as cleft palate and neural tube defects, maintain healthy red blood cells, support immune function, regulate cell growth, aid in hormone production, and some studies suggest that Vitamin B may have a role in preventing certain types of cancer. They also help maintain healthy skin, hair, and nails.



    Recommendations for the Vitamin B beginner: It is easiest to take the Vitamin B supplement as a “complex” of the Bs together. Think of it as a separate type of multivitamin that specializes in Vitamin B. There are many brands on the market, each with a variety of different Bs in different doses. Try to find one that contains as many of the different varieties as possible. All the Bs do not need to have the same dose as our bodies need more of some B vitamins than others.



    In subsequent parts of this series, you will see that as good as a Vitamin B complex is, some of the nutrients are lower doses than what the RDA recommends. Why is this? Mainly because some of the vitamins are expensive to produce. It's easier to sell a product with lower amounts than you need than one that costs more.

    If you wish to start taking Vitamin B, start with a good complex for a month or two and see how you feel. Additional supplementation of Vitamin B may or may not be necessary. It really depends on how you feel and what you’re trying to prevent or trying to heal.



    Thiamin (Vitamin B1)



    Thiamin was the first B vitamin discovered, thus the B1 designation. Severe deficiency causes a condition known as beriberi, indicated by symptoms of mental confusion, muscle wasting, fluid retention, high blood pressure, difficulty in walking, and heart disturbances.



    A Dutch physician performed what are now known as classic experiment in the 1890s that showed the role of diet in beriberi. Without going into too much detail, it was noticed that chickens fed polished white rice had symptoms similar to beriberi. These chickens were then cured when fed the rice polishings, the materials removed from whole rice to make white rice.



    Plant sources rich in thiamin include soybeans, brown rice, sunflower seeds, peanuts, and nuts (Brazil and pecans are the best of the nuts). Thiamin, however, is extremely sensitive to alcohol, tannins found in coffee, black tea, wine, and also sulfites. These compounds can destroy thiamin or render it useless.



    Signs of deficiency



    So, you now know that severe deficiency leads to beriberi, but what about milder deficiencies? Since many Americans do not consume the RDA of 1.5 milligrams, particularly the elderly, here are some other signs and symptoms that can occur: fatigue, depression, constipation, numbness of the legs, and pins & needles sensations of the extremities.



    Some literature states that 30% or more of all patients that enter psychiatric wards are deficient in thiamin! (Carner MWP, Vitamin deficiency and mental symptoms. Br J Psychiatr 156, 878-882, 1990).



    A beneficial effect of taking thiamin occurs because thiamin functions as part of an enzyme (TPP—ask me if you want to know more) which is essential for energy production, carbohydrate metabolism, and nerve cell function (remember you need healthy myelin sheaths!).

    Thiamin is intricately involved with other B vitamins in energy metabolism. Magnesium is required to convert thiamin to its active form. Alcohol consumption and some medications may inhibit thiamin within our bodies.



    Riboflavin (vitamin B2)



    Riboflavin was first recognized as a yellow-green pigment in milk in the late 1800s. Ingesting large amounts will result in an increased urine content of riboflavin, which will then have a yellow-green or yellow-orange fluorescent glow. Why do you want to take riboflavin if not for the cool urine colors? It’s main function is with two other enzymes (FMN and FAD, ask me if you want more info), which are involved in energy production.



    Deficiency signs: Cracking of the lips and the corners of the mouth, an inflamed tongue, sensitivity to light, loss of visual acuity, and burning/itching of the eyes, lips, mouth, tongue. Low levels of riboflavin are common among the elderly.



    As stated above, riboflavin is important for energy production, but it is also involved in producing glutathione, an antioxidant against free-radical damage, . Others studies suggest using it to treat migraine headaches. Some research even states that low levels of riboflavin are closely linked to certain types of esophageal cancers.



    If interested, ask me about migraine headaches and riboflavin.



    So how much riboflavin? For good health, 25-50 milligrams is fine. For migraine headaches, research indicates as much as 400 milligrams a day. Thankfully, no toxicity or side effects have been demonstrated.



    Food stuffs with riboflavin: Cheese, milk-products, leafy green veggies, organ meats (liver, heart, etc), most legumes, and nuts, especially almonds are all good sources of riboflavin. Riboflavin is sensitive to light, which is why milk cartons are opaque instead of clear glass. For those that are trying to be hip and buy milk in regular glass, you are doing a disservice to your family.


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    Next time: Niacin, pyridoxine, Biotin, pantothenic acid & pantethine!

    After that: Folic acid, cobalamin, choline, inositol, and the wrap up!

    So, let's chat about vitamin B!
    Feel free to post any questions regarding Bs
    in this thread or if you wish to have
    more information!!!
    Last edited by biogeek; February 26, 2007, 06:04 PM.
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    Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

    bio, i glanced over it but i am going to have to get back to this. my stomach is saying "feed me feed me!"

    i see the word "cheese" though so i know i'm gonna love this topic!!!
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      Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

      Bio, great post!

      I'm so happy to know which B vitamin was causing my neon urine.

      Very informative. I might check out other B complex vitamins to get more "bang for my buck." I'm taking B Complex for energy mostly, but I like the added benefits of healthy cells (skin, hair, nails). Perhaps I will wait until the other installments to find out which B vitamins can help me the most.

      I'm wondering if I haven't had migraines because I've been eating foods rich in B vitamins and taking B Complex..?

      Once again bio, great post!
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        Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

        Thanks Julie!!

        Neon urine is something to behold! LOL

        Everyone can benefit from taking a Vitamin B complex supplement. There is a debate as to whether the Bs need to be balanced or not. I need to read up on the latest research to see what's going on with that. Atkins believes in balancing them as do a lot of other nutritionists and researchers. There are some that say this is bunk, but I haven't read their findings to see if it's plausable.

        I would say that there is a really good chance that because of your supplements and good eating habits, that you've been spared your migraine misery. I would hate for you to test it just to see if you get one!

        I'm glad you enjoyed the post! You're gonna have to wait until the rest are posted to get the full story-just know that Bs benefit us tremendously. There's just so much to share about Vitamin B! I didn't want to inundate people with a super-long article and then scare them off.
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          Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

          I'm very interested in Vitamin B. Thanks for this post Biogeek. I look forward to the others as well.

          So, I've got a Super B-Complex that I take.

          Thiamin 100 mg which is 6,667% of the FDA's % of daily value. I take my complex with a Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc/Vitamin D complex. So, I guess I'm good to go there. No beriberi worries for me. *WHEWH*

          Riboflavin 20 mg is 1176% of DV

          I'm looking here at the Supplement Facts and all of the different B vitamins are 100% or more of DV except for Biotin and Pantothenic Acid.

          Biotin, that's going to be for hair and nails, isn't it? It's got to be....because I used to supplement my horse with Biotin for her hooves. Hmmm, wonder if we can share biotin supplment?? just kiddin...
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            I'm so happy to know which B vitamin was causing my neon urine.
            This happened to me a couple of years ago when i first started taking a b complex LOL. I didn't know what to think! did a search on the net and was quite relieved to find out i hadn't ingested nuclear waste or dying from some strange disease LOL. both of which had crossed my mind. that is some strange colour!
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            • #7
              Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

              Thanks Bio! Cool lesson. Looking forward to parts II and III.
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                Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                this has been a really good read, bio!
                one question i have concerns the coffee and black tea issue
                Thiamin, however, is extremely sensitive to alcohol, tannins found in coffee, black tea, wine, and also sulfites. These compounds can destroy thiamin or render it useless.
                does this mean decaf coffee or unleaded or both? this may mean i get rid of coffee altogether.
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                  Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                  Well, you don't have to give up your morning java. You just don't want to take them together. So, if you drink coffee in the morning, then wait an hour or two before taking your Bs. If you take Bs first, then wait to drink your coffee.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                    even if it's decaf?
                    that's all i've been drinking lately. i have it first thing and i don't eat for a couple hours. that's when i try to remember to take my vitamins.

                    i just got back from the good 'ol Dollar General where they have High Potency B 100% Complex, 75 tabs for just $2.00.
                    these have 100% of the daily value of Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, B6, Folic Acid and B12.

                    did i do good?
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                    • #11
                      Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                      You shouldn't have a problem with decaf and your vitamins. Any traces of caffeine in decaf shouldn't be enough to wipe out your Bs.

                      Your B complex for $2 sounds like a good deal. You've got 6 of the main B vitamins. I"d try 'em out and see how you feel at the end of the month or when the bottle is near empty.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                        I'm late to the party, as usual. I wanted to thank you so much for this very informative post! I love Vitamin B. If I could only afford to take one Vitamin, it would be my Vitamin B complex -- hands down! I really notice a difference in my mood if I forget to take that vitamin.

                        Thanks again!
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                        • #13
                          Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                          Thanks, FG!!!

                          Vitamin B is one of my favorites!!!! Never leave home without taking it, that's for certain!!!!
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                          • #14
                            Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                            bio,
                            please tell me that there would be no relationship to me taking these B's and having vertigo.

                            the past 2 or 3 days i've been having bouts with this. now i happened to me once before but i had a bad cold and was taking some kind of otc drug for it. when i stopped the drug, the room spinning stopped. jack asked what i've changed the past 2 days and all the has changed is i am now taking the B vitamins and i quit the decaf coffee. nothing else has changed. well, i quit eating to the point of bening stuffed but that might be a whole different issue.

                            i've taken the vitamins with food, not anywhere near the coffee, always with water.
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                              Re: Nutrient of the week: Vitamin B

                              Jimmie, I'm sorry to hear that you've been experiencing vertigo lately. It should not be your B vitamins, and in fact, there are some studies that have shown the Bs can be used to help prevent or eliminate vertigo, especially B6 (pyroxidine). I'll have to look up what the dosage for that is. Are you by chance on any antibiotics or taking NSAIDs?? This is certainly puzzling!
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