Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

[MotherOfGizmo]

Re: Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

I have to admit I did not read Brookes entire post, too much for me to handle right now.

BUT, the person who is saying that 900 calories is ok, is not losing any weight at that caloric intake, she lost alot initially but from her posts s and her siggy line which hasn't changed in quite a long while, she hasn't lost anything in a quite some time now!

Doesn't that say something about the starvation mode theory? Huh? It does to me! Hey to each their own, whatever works for you. Me personally, I could do the starvation thing for a few days or weeks and lose weight too, but I'd gain it back when I started eating sensibly again--I think that remains true for most people!

[2big4mysize]

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actually Savahan what has changed about your Atkins since you ask about cals and fats back in Sept when you first joined us and started your Atkins?
did it not work?
did you jump off the wagon?

[cleochatra]

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Thanks, Brooke! That's an excellent post! Excellent... and I agree with everything you have stated.

Mog-- my signature line hasn't changed because I haven't been counting calories lately.

[Brook]

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<shrug> I stayed at 900-1300 calories a day and jazzed through losing my 20lb regain.

I can also say that I experienced a 14 week stall at 1400-1700 calories a day. Was I in "starvation mode" then?

There's a solid arguement to be made for the body acclimating to lower carb/calorie levels. I'm a big believer in this, but I still believe starvation mode to be a load of reactionary garbage - just my personal opinion based on my own personal experiences.

I don't believe that eating to appetite is being less than sensible - even if it means eating around 900 calories a day. If that addresses your hunger, your health, your activity level and you feel good and don't feel deprived then I don't see an issue. That's not starvation by any definition.

Now, if energy levels are lacking, health issues present, or you're walking around famished all the time - then you're talking about a starvation issue. I have yet to read a post from Cleo that said anything of the like. It's back to the whole YMMV thing. It works for her and she's working it. When I took off the 20 I regained, with the help of ketosis, staying low was just fine for me too. I think it's important to note that for maintenance I stay at about 1500-1700ish calories a day and didn't suffer any ill effects upping my intake.

Just a thought!
~Brook

[Savannah]

Re: Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

In september I didnt watch calories, i ate lasrge amounts of pure fat basically to up the fat ratio. Everyone on this forum always told me i didnt eat enough, or enough fat so i ploughed into butter and mayo, olive oil etcetc.


This time around i have been alot stricter with myself about fat quantities and i must admit im seeing results alot faster. In september, i actually gained weight.

[2big4mysize]

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were you feeding your hunger? and stopping every tie you ate?

[Elizellen]

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Yes - this can happen
Dr Atkins wrote about one woman who was showing ketones but not losing weight.
On investigation he found she was eating a stick of butter (4 ounces) as a snack regularly !!

[cleochatra]

Re: Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

That happened to me, Elizellen!!! I was eating mayonnaise like there was no tomorrow!

Turns out I was eating an extra 1,000 calories a day in mayo! I was like OMG!

*lol*

[2big4mysize]

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well we have discussed overeatingin another topic. back to Savanah issues so we can help her be the biggest loser she can be before she goes homeagain or are you back home now?

[2big4mysize]

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one thing you have to remember Savahan is anyone can answer your post and they many not know you are what I cal a fly weight ( you are small in pounds to begin with) and they are a super heavyweight ( the CC folk with 100+ pounds to lose) so your daily foods will look small to them and they will tellyou to eat more. you need to see who is giving you that advise and **** through it. we have some excellent mods who will give you good advice for your size andeating. when folk say you need it increase your fats they are looking at you being slightly low and think you are going to ad 1-2 tablesoons of fat toyour foods for the entire day not every meal that much.

not2late has a great stickie about increasing your fats and how little actual healthy fat it takes to do this give it a read.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

hey why was sort ****

[Brook]

Re: Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

one thing you have to remember Savahan is anyone can answer your post and they many not know you are what I cal a fly weight ( you are small in pounds to begin with) and they are a super heavyweight ( the CC folk with 100+ pounds to lose) so your daily foods will look small to them and they will tellyou to eat more. you need to see who is giving you that advise and **** through it.

Wait a minute..... did you SWEAR, 2big?!!

[2big4mysize]

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okay gues I spelled it wrong wonder what swear word it looked like

[Brook]

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I knew it was too good to be true. heh

[Savannah]

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Thats actually most helpful. I remember once on this mod i mentioned that i had developed a taste for butter - raw and alone. I was encouraged to eat it as it was pure fat and thats what i needed they said. Yikes im glad i brought up this subject, I know now that i can only have butter with my eggs and insauces and that two tbs max of mayo.


I am living in London but going home to South Africa to visit family for the first time in a long time, its swim suit season and I really want to look killer! With your help guys i hope i can do that.