Induction disaster!

**Elizellen** · January 22, 2007, 06:18 PM

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hi diva

If it was just that one slipup then you dont have to start your 14 day induction again, just carry on counting as if you hadnt drank that wine.

Let's face it - if we had to restart every time we chose wrongly some of us would never move past induction!! So if today should have been day 8 it still is, so carry on till your 14 days are up and check your resistance with the table in DANDR (but expecting that the numbers will be a bit off.)

Then decide if you want to stay on induction for another week or so to get really into it before moving onto OWL.

You may find that your weightloss falters while your body uses up the alcohol (which it will do before getting back to fatburning) but just keep on lowcarbing.

**Lyssie** · January 22, 2007, 06:19 PM

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Just take it one day (or meal) at a time... It'll happen...

There are a lot worse things than staying the same weight - like gaining!

**PinkRibbon** · January 22, 2007, 06:28 PM

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It's so hard to give up those cocktails, isn't it?!! The hardest part for me was giving up my beer with dinner. But let me tell you, once the scale started moving I was hooked and motivated! I don't even want a sip right now. Give yourself at least one week without sweets, alcohol, etc. - the scale will move!!!!!! Hang in there!

**ovadiva** · January 22, 2007, 08:08 PM

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oh thank thank you so much u guys! I'm still in Ketosis I think. Right now I would be the cookie monster going back n forth to the fridge! My husband thinks my breath is kicking which is VERY good sign. THis only happens to me when I am in ketosis, last time I had the same problem. It's very good news. I am keeping it up. I want to post before n after pics like some of you guys.. It's so encourage to see some of you. I've been overweight all my life and I want it to be over.

**OBob** · January 22, 2007, 10:45 PM

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Hi Ovadiva,

Let's look at things a little differently. One of the fundamental premises of the Atkins program is that many people (most -- if not all -- of the people on this board) are addicted to certain foods; sugar, white flour and starch being the big ones. As with any addiction, (heroin, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine), the proven way to beat food addictions is to abstain completely from the addictive food. Atkins states this explicitly in his book.

The advantages of abstinence seem foreign to somebody who hasn't tried it. Essentially, by abstaining completely and cold turkey from any addictive substance, you initially put yourself through a relatively brief period of withdrawal. This withdrawal manifests in a real physical set of symptoms like light-headedness, irritability, sleeplessness, etc. So long as (and this is crucial to understand) we don't have ANY of the addictive substance as we're going through the withdrawal process, that withdrawal fades over the course of a few days (generally 3 days to a week).

For those willing to test the waters, and abstain completely from the foods to which they're addicted, they're greeted with a pleasant surprise on the other side. Cravings SUBSIDE! Believe me, I was skeptical. I've been a carboholic my entire life, and the thought of not craving sweets seemed completely foreign to me. I took it on faith, (with some personal experience in escaping nicotine addiction to support that faith), and discovered that it was true.

After several days, I no longer craved sugar, potato chips, cheez-its, cookies, ice cream etc. 3 weeks in, I still don't crave these things. It's not that I never think about them, or even think that one or two might be nice. But, I don't have the gnawing physical cravings that have characterized my life for years now.

My experience with quitting nicotine (and my long-time support of others doing so) has armed me with the extra knowledge needed to continue down this path: There is no such thing as one. I know with full faith that, if I were to open a box of cheez-its, and have a handful, that the rest of my day would be one horrific mental wrestling match, and that I'd eventually lose that match, eating the entire box, and almost certainly compounding the problem by purchasing and consuming other things for which the initial cheez-its were the triggering mechanism.

This is because, as with every addictive substance, all it takes is one use to RE-IGNITE the craving/addiction process. So long as I abstain completely, I get to eat a lot of great things, while losing weight, and enjoy my days FREE of the nagging, crippling cravings that drove me to eat my way to being a hundred pounds overweight. While I am sometimes confronted by momentary thoughts of how nice a potato chip would be, the knowledge that the COST for eating that chip would very probably be the bulk of -- if not all of -- the weight I've worked to lose to this point (and along with it all of the self-esteem I've been banking along the way).

It also helps for me to know that those "slips" result in not only the re-ignition of the god-awful crave cycle that got me to where I was, but also in the loss of the fat-burning ketosis that allows me to lose the weight for at least 3 to 5 days. Eat a pie; and I'm screwed for the better part of the next week.

Of course, you're not obligated to start induction from the beginning. You're ultimately only accountable to yourself in this. However, consider why Atkins created the induction step. The purpose of this step is both to show us how we actually CAN/WILL lose weight by dropping our carb intake to a very low level, AND to break us out of the viscious crave cycle that results from our addictions to sugar and it's close cousins.

By going through this brief, two week process, clean, you won't be setting yourself back; you'll be allowing yourself to experience one of the greatest benefits of this plan: you'll be able to escape the crave cycle that currently has you on a string like a yo-yo, tormenting yourself as you try to fight battles that aren't winnable.

We addicts can't control our intake of addictive foods. We can only choose to abstain, and in doing so, escape their control over us, or to use, in the quantities that our addiction demands of us.

Consider that what Atkins says (and what I'm confirming, and what many others here will also confirm) is true; that by abstaining from the foods that are enslaving you, you will actually find yourself free from their power over you. That, in a couple weeks, you could be sitting here typing about how you haven't had a serious craving in several days, and that you never imagined you would feel so in control of your appetite. Consider that this is a possibility. Then consider taking the specific path designed by Dr. Atkins to get you to that point. Look at induction not as a set-back but as a gift to yourself. I think you'll find that you were glad you did.

OBob

**OBob** · January 22, 2007, 10:49 PM

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Just to follow-up. If you don't have them, a pack of Ketostix and a copy of "Doctor Atkins' New Diet Revolution" are huge aids. The first so you have a good indicator of whether you're in ketosis or not, and the second so that you have all of the background information on why this program was designed the way it was, and why it works for those who are committed to following it.

**Elizellen** · January 23, 2007, 04:58 AM

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Well said, OBob

**ovadiva** · January 23, 2007, 07:38 AM

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Thanks bob, I read the book twice! not once twice. And what you typed has summarized everything I read regarding adkins. I just don't like slip-ups and I get very disappointed in myself for breaking in. I know I can't afford to lose this battle. I am not going mad with cravings, but temptations was bigger than me . We have loads of cookies, cakes, cheeze sticks.. and I don't even go mad over them. It's a mind game really. I don't want to put everyone on this diet, but its extremely hard when people are forcing pie down your throat or saying "such a pity, this is very good" I know what I want and why I'm doing adkins and at that I'm goal oriented and do not want to give up. I'm sure by tommorow I'll be losing again. I will have to extend my induction period though as the goal isnt being met. THen I shall gradually move on to On-going.

1. I do have the book
2. I don't know how to get ketosis sticks as I'm in Europe.
3. Most from ebay won't ship to Europe

If anyone knows how to get them from Belgium or England, France.. I'd like to know.

Thanks all for your great replies.

**Elizellen** · January 23, 2007, 02:13 PM

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Where are you located, Diva?

**ovadiva** · January 23, 2007, 02:20 PM

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I am in Belgium. I will go to the pharmacy to ask, but usually their English is limited *my french is fine, but I might need to find out how to say "Ketones" in french. They rarely sell anything to you at the pharmacy without a prescription

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**boonie stomper** · January 23, 2007, 02:27 PM

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you can get ketone test strips on Ebay....

**MaggieBE** · January 23, 2007, 04:51 PM

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Where are you at in Belgium? I am an American living in Geel, Belgium.

For ketones the french word I believe is Cétones. I will not bother to murder my French but try to ask for papers to test for that. Maybe mention diabetes.

Oh and I can "hook you up" with the sticks if you cannot get them locally. Also what kind of Atkins book do you have? I looked at a Dutch language book and the veggie amount is listed in grams and is in my opinion too much. I believe this topic has been talked about on this board. Of course (especially with the salad veggies) I do not believe too many veggies can hurt!

**ovadiva** · January 23, 2007, 04:59 PM

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I'm in wallonia, Namur. I did some research, but it didn't work to find the name. I got one ebay seller to ship to me... of course at a "price' anyways I hope I get them soon. I saw they were at walgreens (very cheap) comparing to the price I have to pay for them. ecky.. oh well I think I should just ask my little brothers to get them for me next time. I didn't think about it.

**MaggieBE** · January 23, 2007, 05:02 PM

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Where are you from? I assume the UK?

Wallonia is so pretty. I would live there right away if I spoke proper French and if the employment rate was better! Beautiful though! Spent a few weeks last year in Malmèdy.

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