Induction disaster!

[ovadiva]

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Hiya Maggie oh I'm from Fort Lauderdale, Florida the 33304 zip code And u? When did you move to Belgium? Do you find their Chocolate a bit too tempting sometimes? hehe I sure do although I'm not a "sweet" person. hehe

[MaggieBE]

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I am from Pennsylvania. Why did you move to Belgium? I used to joke that I moved to Belgium for the great sex(married a Belgian) but stayed for the chocolate. Though I must admit that I am not much of a chocolate person anymore. I moved here Feb 98.

[ovadiva]

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1. Ok: this has been my 2nd week officially in induction. I did not make the mini goal. I will remain in induction for another week. I know why I didn't meet goal.
2. I pursuade a seller to send me ketone sticks, therefor I will get them in 3 days to a week he says.. uhmm ok. that's done
3. It's a fresh week now and its getting easier. I'm not as hungry-appetite is way down.

[Elizellen]

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It sounds as if you are getting the hang of it, Diva

But dont get too fixated on reaching a particular weight by a certain date as you may find your body is unco-operative some times .

I neveer set myself time/weight goals as I knew it would discourage me if I didnt make them. My goals were always something I could control bby my own decisions, so were more like:
Eat nothing not on the allowed list for x days
Exercise xx minutes x times a week
Drink xxx ounces of water each day
and so on . . .

Weight will come off in its own time

[ovadiva]

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You are soooo right Elizellen. my first 21 lbs lost when I was extremely overweight came so easy and it was taken off like nothing. I lost in total 40lbs. It's bit harder and the weight should come off without me stressing it. Once in Ketosis, its easier to refuse things, once u take yourself off doomed! I am trying to be as relaxed as I used to be. I have 29 lbs till goal and I know it won't come off just because i"m telling it. I will take your advice.. too much stress I did buy strawberries today. I just do myself the favor of picking everything on plan and nothing "OFF".

It's just hard when u have a spouse at home who lives on chocolates, cakes and other sugary things. Being overweight is more psychological than anything for me I beleive, so the minute I feel down I'll eat anything even if I don't SPECIALLY like them. I like savoury not sweets. Having things around the house and during a weak point of the day it can always happend.

I won't ring your ears too much, but thanks for such lovely advice. I think I will ease up on myself and the weight should fall. By not weighing myself this morning.. I feel a lot lighter!

[ovadiva]

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oh ho- got the sticks today! Ran to the bathroom.. seriously.. took one test... small to a trace of ketone.. not very pink..... I know I have a resistant body.. but good lord! Numerous factors. I feel like I'm losing.. weird.. the way my body feels the way my tummy ( problem area) i can just feel it.. but I haven't lost 1 lb from my 161 last weight record! What wrong with me? I"m throwing my scale away! The sticks well the are the truth.. I might have to slow down on veggies and eat only salads for now. I have loads of it in the fridge anyways ... which need to be eaten!

1. Ketones-trace to a small level of pink
2 . scale doesn't move
3. body feels slimmer?? like you can just feel the skin where fat has been and isn't there anymore...weird huh?

Will coffee really mess me up? THey don't give me sugar cravings! I haven't thought of cheating even. I mean I read.. that even when ketones are not highly present doesn't mean you're not in liposis because everyone is different. And when they are too much present.. drink water.. I do drink A LOT of tea and water!

[Jace]

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For the most part, I wouldn't put too much stock into what those infernal strips say...I was never able to get them to turn color at any point in my weight loss phases yet was still losing weight with alacrity...as long as you stay on plan you'll see the results

At some points it can really come down to playing the waiting game...but in the meantime measure your success in how great you feel on this new plan and how much healthier you are and keep taking those measurements

Best of luck!

~Far la bella figura!

[boonie stomper]

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Those sticks only reveal ketones in your pee, provided the pee ins'nt too diluted. My body is ultra "efficient" at using energy, so the ketones get burned up rather than peed out enough to show on the strips. Of course, if you get addicted to using them like some people get addicted to weighing, and you have a "need" to see purple strips, dip one in a bottle of vinegar or acetone. At least you'll know whether your strips are working OK.

[ovadiva]

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ha ha ha you're funny boonie.!!! well at least I got pink.. but Im telling you I have that BOOST of energy doctor atkins talk about.. I can take on the world! Tommorow is my 25th birthday.. Tradition is a cake.. what can I offer to my guests that I can eat also? Anyways for some reason I feel smaller.. during those 3 weeks of induction.. but recorded only 6 lbs lost... very lil comparing to my first tried at atkins.. well I had 9 lbs lost with 2 weeks of induction. Anyways I just loads of energy and i focus so much better.. but the scale isn't moving the ketone sticks are light pink! plus I feel smaller. We'll see I'm keeping my head up.

Appetite is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy down.. I feel bad for not finishing my plate! Its like I forget to eat n stuff.. so I'm hopeful the scale will go down.. maybe

[ovadiva]

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For the most part, I wouldn't put too much stock into what those infernal strips say...I was never able to get them to turn color at any point in my weight loss phases yet was still losing weight with alacrity...as long as you stay on plan you'll see the results

At some points it can really come down to playing the waiting game...but in the meantime measure your success in how great you feel on this new plan and how much healthier you are and keep taking those measurements

Best of luck!

~Far la bella figura!

Oh yeah the waiting game. I have a high muscle mass that might influence this? I drink enough water.. I will be waiting huh? I thought about giving up the scale because seeing the scale screw up with my psych.
But people like you Jace gives me hope. I am not too far from this battle. I will be posting bikini pics one day!!

[ladygirl99]

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Hi Ovadiva,

Let's look at things a little differently. One of the fundamental premises of the Atkins program is that many people (most -- if not all -- of the people on this board) are addicted to certain foods; sugar, white flour and starch being the big ones. As with any addiction, (heroin, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine), the proven way to beat food addictions is to abstain completely from the addictive food. Atkins states this explicitly in his book.

The advantages of abstinence seem foreign to somebody who hasn't tried it. Essentially, by abstaining completely and cold turkey from any addictive substance, you initially put yourself through a relatively brief period of withdrawal. This withdrawal manifests in a real physical set of symptoms like light-headedness, irritability, sleeplessness, etc. So long as (and this is crucial to understand) we don't have ANY of the addictive substance as we're going through the withdrawal process, that withdrawal fades over the course of a few days (generally 3 days to a week).

For those willing to test the waters, and abstain completely from the foods to which they're addicted, they're greeted with a pleasant surprise on the other side. Cravings SUBSIDE! Believe me, I was skeptical. I've been a carboholic my entire life, and the thought of not craving sweets seemed completely foreign to me. I took it on faith, (with some personal experience in escaping nicotine addiction to support that faith), and discovered that it was true.

After several days, I no longer craved sugar, potato chips, cheez-its, cookies, ice cream etc. 3 weeks in, I still don't crave these things. It's not that I never think about them, or even think that one or two might be nice. But, I don't have the gnawing physical cravings that have characterized my life for years now.

My experience with quitting nicotine (and my long-time support of others doing so) has armed me with the extra knowledge needed to continue down this path: There is no such thing as one. I know with full faith that, if I were to open a box of cheez-its, and have a handful, that the rest of my day would be one horrific mental wrestling match, and that I'd eventually lose that match, eating the entire box, and almost certainly compounding the problem by purchasing and consuming other things for which the initial cheez-its were the triggering mechanism.

This is because, as with every addictive substance, all it takes is one use to RE-IGNITE the craving/addiction process. So long as I abstain completely, I get to eat a lot of great things, while losing weight, and enjoy my days FREE of the nagging, crippling cravings that drove me to eat my way to being a hundred pounds overweight. While I am sometimes confronted by momentary thoughts of how nice a potato chip would be, the knowledge that the COST for eating that chip would very probably be the bulk of -- if not all of -- the weight I've worked to lose to this point (and along with it all of the self-esteem I've been banking along the way).

It also helps for me to know that those "slips" result in not only the re-ignition of the god-awful crave cycle that got me to where I was, but also in the loss of the fat-burning ketosis that allows me to lose the weight for at least 3 to 5 days. Eat a pie; and I'm screwed for the better part of the next week.

Of course, you're not obligated to start induction from the beginning. You're ultimately only accountable to yourself in this. However, consider why Atkins created the induction step. The purpose of this step is both to show us how we actually CAN/WILL lose weight by dropping our carb intake to a very low level, AND to break us out of the viscious crave cycle that results from our addictions to sugar and it's close cousins.

By going through this brief, two week process, clean, you won't be setting yourself back; you'll be allowing yourself to experience one of the greatest benefits of this plan: you'll be able to escape the crave cycle that currently has you on a string like a yo-yo, tormenting yourself as you try to fight battles that aren't winnable.

We addicts can't control our intake of addictive foods. We can only choose to abstain, and in doing so, escape their control over us, or to use, in the quantities that our addiction demands of us.

Consider that what Atkins says (and what I'm confirming, and what many others here will also confirm) is true; that by abstaining from the foods that are enslaving you, you will actually find yourself free from their power over you. That, in a couple weeks, you could be sitting here typing about how you haven't had a serious craving in several days, and that you never imagined you would feel so in control of your appetite. Consider that this is a possibility. Then consider taking the specific path designed by Dr. Atkins to get you to that point. Look at induction not as a set-back but as a gift to yourself. I think you'll find that you were glad you did.

OBob

WOW OBob, It seems like a low carb doctor was talking to us We really needed to hear that, I had a slip up yesterday with cookies I didn't gain. But I am right back on the program todayAnd Im not looking back. I am still losing yay and determined to leave the 220's by next week Excellent post it was a god sent

[JudyMac]

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Hi Diva,
I live in France and got mine shipped from the UK, along with some splenda and Davinci gourmet syrup. Here is the link
http://www.sugarfreemegastore.com/

I also found them here, but have never dealt with them:
http://www.sugarfreesuperstore.co.uk...15&ACTION.y=11

Sadly the postage is silly, if you have relatives in the UK it is better to get them to buy it (or send it to them as delivery address) for you and send airmail.

I also was a bit bad with wine on Burns Night, so have decided to extend my induction by an extra week so I can have a clean 14 days.

Keep on going, we'll get there!

Judy