Re: Heed Rule #5 of Induction
Jace and Eric (and the world....)
Here is an excerpt from a private conversation I had on here the other day with another member. I think it touches a bit on what you've each said, and maybe, it'll help someone else.
Eric, I'm glad you're one of those "open containers" I refer to in this upcoming post...willing to listen, willing to be open and accept advice from those who do care that you succeed and you make lasting change in your life.
Jace and Eric (and the world....)
Here is an excerpt from a private conversation I had on here the other day with another member. I think it touches a bit on what you've each said, and maybe, it'll help someone else.
Eric, I'm glad you're one of those "open containers" I refer to in this upcoming post...willing to listen, willing to be open and accept advice from those who do care that you succeed and you make lasting change in your life.
I read the main boards every day. Most days I don't participate because I just can't take it. Today, I'm feeling a little introspective. I told this to another member once, but I use "those" people to my advantage. I watch what they do, see how they fail and then try to take a good hard look at myself and how I am using those same excuses and behaviors. I try to use it to my advantage instead of letting it get me too down.
This maintenance stuff is hard. You know it. I know it. The majority of people will likely NEVER know it. Neither will they know what it feels like to look good after looking like a cow your whole life. The pride, the sexiness, the HEALTH that comes with it. The sense of empowerment that it gives you, the tools you learn to apply in other areas of your life when you decide to make other changes.
Use them, <<edited name out>>. I don't even pay that much attention to a name anymore. They have to REALLY become determined for me to notice them. Jess once told me to pour myself into OPEN containers. Most of the time people don't like my blunt style. Frankly, I don't care anymore. I'm doing what I have to do to be successful. I do the best I can to give advice to those people on here who really are trying and who are willing to accept the advice for what it is, a helping hand.
I used to get my feelings hurt when others around here would jump all over me as being insensitive. Ahh, it's just the opposite. I feel me being quiet and saying nothing is a much more insensitive action on my part rather than when I put myself out there to offer someone who is struggling some sound advice. Can't help it if it is supportive of what their body needs, not what their head/addiction wants to hear. When they are ready to listen their body will tell them the exact things I'm saying. Maybe one day, tomorrow, next week, next year, if they're desperate enough, they might remember something one of us has said and give it a try. That's the best we can hope for.
I'm surrounded by people like this in my real life. It's to the point that I just can't take being around them. I truly think they DO NOT want to hear reality. They want the excuse and only the excuse. Many of them will go from person to person to person (board to board to board) asking the same question until they get ONE post that supports the answer they already have their heart set on. They'll lash out pretty hard to anyone who gives them the advice they KNOW deep down is right, but isn't what they want to hear.
Pray for them, I guess. But, remember this....you won't catch me EVER excusing a cheat. You won't catch me EVER telling someone it's okay to eat this or eat that when they are struggling. I'm not saying it to be dictatorial, I'm not saying it to be bossy, or a know-it-all. Not at all. I say it because, I TOO am an addict. I deal every day with the same desires and addiction as the rest of them. I say it to reinforce it to myself more than I say it to help them. It's possible that 99% of what I say falls on deaf ears "out there", but 100% of it is said from my soul for the reason of keeping myself grounded and centered and real.
I'm having a lot of struggles these days in my personal, professional, and student life. A lot. But I haven't let it become a reason for giving up on myself. Anyway, thanks for spilling your guts...it gave me the impetus I needed to vent a little too.
This maintenance stuff is hard. You know it. I know it. The majority of people will likely NEVER know it. Neither will they know what it feels like to look good after looking like a cow your whole life. The pride, the sexiness, the HEALTH that comes with it. The sense of empowerment that it gives you, the tools you learn to apply in other areas of your life when you decide to make other changes.
Use them, <<edited name out>>. I don't even pay that much attention to a name anymore. They have to REALLY become determined for me to notice them. Jess once told me to pour myself into OPEN containers. Most of the time people don't like my blunt style. Frankly, I don't care anymore. I'm doing what I have to do to be successful. I do the best I can to give advice to those people on here who really are trying and who are willing to accept the advice for what it is, a helping hand.
I used to get my feelings hurt when others around here would jump all over me as being insensitive. Ahh, it's just the opposite. I feel me being quiet and saying nothing is a much more insensitive action on my part rather than when I put myself out there to offer someone who is struggling some sound advice. Can't help it if it is supportive of what their body needs, not what their head/addiction wants to hear. When they are ready to listen their body will tell them the exact things I'm saying. Maybe one day, tomorrow, next week, next year, if they're desperate enough, they might remember something one of us has said and give it a try. That's the best we can hope for.
I'm surrounded by people like this in my real life. It's to the point that I just can't take being around them. I truly think they DO NOT want to hear reality. They want the excuse and only the excuse. Many of them will go from person to person to person (board to board to board) asking the same question until they get ONE post that supports the answer they already have their heart set on. They'll lash out pretty hard to anyone who gives them the advice they KNOW deep down is right, but isn't what they want to hear.
Pray for them, I guess. But, remember this....you won't catch me EVER excusing a cheat. You won't catch me EVER telling someone it's okay to eat this or eat that when they are struggling. I'm not saying it to be dictatorial, I'm not saying it to be bossy, or a know-it-all. Not at all. I say it because, I TOO am an addict. I deal every day with the same desires and addiction as the rest of them. I say it to reinforce it to myself more than I say it to help them. It's possible that 99% of what I say falls on deaf ears "out there", but 100% of it is said from my soul for the reason of keeping myself grounded and centered and real.
I'm having a lot of struggles these days in my personal, professional, and student life. A lot. But I haven't let it become a reason for giving up on myself. Anyway, thanks for spilling your guts...it gave me the impetus I needed to vent a little too.





But, when someone comes looking for help and is really working hard to change their lives and willing to do what it takes...it makes their posts all the more refreshing and response inspiring! 
is the best Atkins related support group anyone will ever find, I just hope people utilize it to change their lives rather than just use it to complain that Atkins isn't working because "I can't give up that one glass of vodka and it has never stalled me before!"
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