Can a person RE-DO

[Chera]

Induction?

I did induction for 2 weeks staring January 17th.

I've done ok since then.... VERY VERY slow...................... losing

Inches yep, are doing pretty well.... but at some point the dang scale has to move........................ or you do what I did.................... not just fall but JUMP eagerly with all fours........ right into the ring of fire (sugar that is).... and entire day of it.... all 3 meals was nothing but true junk food...

So, since I've been stalled for about 6 weeks now....... can I RE-DO induction or should I RE-DO Induction??????

[Sunny_0ne]

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Chera, I think it has to be your decision, depending on how carefully you have been following your plan day to day.

I am restarting induction. My metabolism is so slow and I have been stalled for almost 5 weeks. It's so discouraging. But I was including diet drinks and more splenda than recommended... and I even, in a depressed state of mind ate a couple of Atkins bars to make myself feel better. And I am one who cannot eat them without their setting off cravings.

I realized my WOE was in danger... I was on a very slippery slope, and I have gained far too much to let go. So I am re-starting induction just to give myself a clean beginning.

Good luck whatever you decide. These stalls are the pits. I am surprised I have the determination to stick to it and find out how to make it work for me.

[Chera]

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I guess my thought is........... WILL it WORK as well as the FIRST TIME?

Seems I read somewhere that it wouldn't be as effective..................... I just HAVE to get the scales moving again....

[Georgiana]

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Induction?

I did induction for 2 weeks staring January 17th.

I've done ok since then.... VERY VERY slow...................... losing

Inches yep, are doing pretty well.... but at some point the dang scale has to move........................ or you do what I did.................... not just fall but JUMP eagerly with all fours........ right into the ring of fire (sugar that is).... and entire day of it.... all 3 meals was nothing but true junk food...

So, since I've been stalled for about 6 weeks now....... can I RE-DO induction or should I RE-DO Induction??????

You are a little too vague in your post for us to give you proper advice. Here are some questions that would help:

1. What are your stats -- height, starting weight, current weight, goal weight?
2. You mention cheating there, but don't say how often or when this happened. Was it a one-time thing? Was it right at the end of induction? Was it yesterday? Did you go back in ketosis after getting back on track?
3. From the way you state things, I understand you are in OWL. How far did you get on the "carbohydrate ladder"? What foods did you introduce?
4. Could you post one or two menus, including quantities?

You said you are losing inches. As long as inches go away, I don't understand why you would even care about the scale. Unless you are participating in TBL or anything similar, it is inches you have to lose in order to look better.

[clogger]

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I agree with Georgiana. Please provide some more info. In the meantime, start Induction. Based on what you answer we may advise, as Dr. Atkins has, to do Induction for two or three days to kick things back into gear or we may suggest doing Induction for the full two weeks. Either way you'll at least do a couple days of Induction.

[Desertthorn]

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Chera, post a menu, cause thats often the problem.

[not2late]

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I agree with Georgiana too.

If you never left Induction and chose to do the "extended" Induction, then there is no need to "restart" Induction because you were still on Induction. "Extended" Induction just means you are following the Induction diet---the rules and the foods list---for more than the first 2 weeks.

If you moved to OWL, we will need your current carb level, your carb rung and what you've introduced recently. Typically on OWL, it's tweaking the menues----especially if you've gotten sloppy with measuring foods and not paying attention to how your body reacts to different foods. In those instances there is no need "restart" Induction---just merely stop the offending food and/or pay more attention to your portions.

You only need to go back to Induction if you are no longer in ketosis and you only stay there until you get back into ketosis, then pick up where you left off. Otherwise, you might fall into the trap of abusing Induction, which Dr. Atkins warns against due to a potential for yo-yo dieting and because you might make yourself more weight loss resistant the more you drop back and forth. He discusses this in the book.

[tfek70]

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I agree with everyone too. I was humming right along losing pounds left and right. I went from 241 and was ecstatic when I got below 200. I have since started a pretty decent weight lifting program and have gone above 200. I could care less. I'm still losing inches and feeling better than ever. I refuse to let some hunk of plastic, metal and glass define how I feel about me. Nobody notices if my scale says 210 or 190, but they most certainly notice my waist shrinking by 2 inches. What matters to you?

T. J.

[Chera]

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Well, SORRY I'm too vague................

I just wanted to know the answer to the question, Can a person RE-DO induction and get good results OR is it worth the time energy and effort?

I've read ON THIS board and can't locate the thread at the moment that redoing induction wouldn't enhance you weight loss.....

SO, just asking..................

I've cheated 1 time on February 16th - and got right back on track that afternoon pushing water and exercising

I cheated YESTERDAY..................

I've started BACK on induction from OWL as I am NOT pleased with my WEIGHT.... I am at 221.5 pounds and regardless of how many inches that is........... I"M STILL OVERWEIGHT.... so therefore, that is the reason I'm trying to DECREASE my weight.... no matter how good I feel 221.5 for a 5' 3" person at the age of 43 is extremely obese!

I've done this before and have been very successful I have the 2002 version of the Atkins book and it's by my bed every night.... Sometimes, though one would like to come here for advice and guidance and a little encouragement as to what to do next......... If you can offer that, it would be appreciated...
turkey links
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0.0
0.0
0.0
Lettuce, raw
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0.1
1.6
0.5
Cucumber, raw
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0.2
2.6
0.7
Chicken, breast
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2.2
0.0
8.4
Cheese
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7.6
1.3
6.3
Water, tap
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0.0
0.0
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Total
506
10.1
5.5
15.9

[not2late]

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It probably won’t give you a boost. Unless you are completely out of ketosis and have been off the diet long enough to build up your glycogen stores, you probably won’t get a dramatic loss like you did during the first 2 weeks. Because that’s why we get that "whoosh" during the 14 days----glycogen used up, water loss, and the switch to a ketogenic metabolism.

Since you’ve lost weight, it means you aren’t severely metabolically resistant. You should go back and compare your weight loss during your first 14 days of Induction to the metabolic resistance charts in the book. If you are moderate to low resistance, then you should strongly consider moving to OWL and going up the carb ladder and finding your CCLL.

How far did you get on OWL?

Read the ingredients to the turkey links you are eating to make sure it doesn't contain sugars.

Also based on what you posted of your menu, it doesn't look like you are getting enough fat in your diet and not enough vegetables.

[Sunny_0ne]

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I don't mean to contradict all of you who have been on this WOE successfully for a long time. But I was getting a little sloppy with my eating. Nothing really illegal.. just out of control. And then I'd eat too much of legal stuff.

I have gone back on induction, not for a dramatic weight loss, but to get my self discipline back. I am cutting out all the extra Splenda, diet colas, and little extras I was adding to dress up my food.

My purpose is to get used to eating plain food and re-educate my tastes so I can move onto OWL in a couple of weeks without the baggage of the slippery slope I was on holding me back.

So, doing induction again for that reason makes sense to me.

[tfek70]

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^^^
Makes sense to me Sunny. I've gone from OWL back to induction for the same reason. Sometimes you just have to "tighten up".

[tfek70]

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Chera, I believe the post you are looking for is about the "one golden shot" theory. It says that the first time you do this you will be most successful, and attempts at doing it again don't work so well. There is a semi-recent thread about this theory in the STAC forum. I don't think your case is one that really fits that theory though. It's more about people who completely leave this WOE for an extended period and then come back to the fold. Hope that's what you were looking for.

T. J.

[Chera]

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Thanks... I appreciate your information a great deal....

What I have posted is just for breakfast and lunch today...

The sausage links have no sugars at all.... they are all natural as I've been searching for over 2 months for something I can eat for breakfast and or snack.....

I haven't been OFF this WOE at all except for yesterday... it was a horrible day and I really just gave in to my weakness for chocolate and sugar.....

I've only added back more veggies (rung 1) and that has been MORE than enough and sometimes I have to remind myself to eat more veggies.... but I do think that maybe I've gotten a little sloppy too maybe.... I'm watching my food intake more closely... so maybe the induction will help remind me.....

So, I'll keep on keeping on... I've up my exercise and am training for a 5k run as it's my 3 week of training.... so I want to keep that up....

Yes, I understand inches are important I'm in a 16 from a 20, so it makes you feel MUCH better... but I HAVE TO MAKE THE SCALES get out of the 200's...

Thanks

[liv]

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And not enough food!!!!! But your list was a bit hard to interpret but from what I could see that is how it looks like.

You should have three regular meals. To lose we need to make sure we keep our metabolism going. Eating regular meals, exercising , drinking water helps with that.

What do you drink?
Do you get some exercise?