are atkins products okay during induction?

[patrice2]

i'm starting my second week of induction tomorrow and haven't weighed in yet so i dont no my loss. but im wondering if the atkins bars and shakes are ok during induction. ive been eating about one of each a day and just saw a post saying not to include them in your diet. i've been eating the ones ok for induction and have been including them in my carb count depending on how many net carbs they say to have. but i got nervous today because one said that it had 3 net carbs and was ok for induction but on the nutrition panel it said it had 18 carbs and only 5 grams of fiber! i got so nervous! i only have 25 lbs to lose and i know its going to take a longer time so i wanna try to avoid things that will make me stall! also is milled flaxseed allowed during induction? i've been eating it because 2 tablespoons has only 4 carbs and its all fiber so i figured it didnt count and it is supposedly very healthy

[CalicoPrairie]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

People here will tell you no, because they can stall your weight loss. Sorry.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

>>s milled flaxseed allowed during induction?>>

Yes, it is ok.

However, it's not all fiber. If you check a source other than the package (which rounds), you'll see that 1/4 cup flax meal is 8.09 total carbs and 7.6 fiber. That 0.49 net carbs still counts.

As to the products ... well, the best advice is to avoid them as much as possible.

Some of the ingredients, especially in the bars, aren't allowed on Induction.

And as to why "the math" doesn't work, it's because of the gylcerine in the bars. It's not allowed, by law, to be included in the nutritional label, so those are carbs that aren't accounted for. Like sugar alcohols, they can be subtracted.

[NCatkinsGA]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

If you do eat a bar during the 1st few days does that mean the days was wasted ???

[atkinsgal08]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

>>If you do eat a bar during the 1st few days does that mean the days was wasted ???>>

No.

Days aren't wasted ... they're opportunities to learn and to improve.

[StephCracknell]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

On the atkins website it gives a weekly menu and shoes the advantage shakes/bars as snacks every day from day 1. I have the new book and haven't read anything that says anything to the contrary, but I think I will use them for when I am on the road and not able to get real food as everyone seems to say do a clean induction.

x
Steph

[Georgiana]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

Steph, if you are using that sample menu, make sure you check carefully the ingredients used in recipes. Not all those recipes are acceptable on Induction.

[poobears1972]

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Here we follow the 2002 version which didn't ban bars or shakes but suggested using them for emergencies. None of that matters though, no matter what the books say we see people daily that are stalled and have included a bar or shake into their daily eating. It is shown over and over again by posters here that lots of people can't tolerate them and lose weight. You may be on that can but if you find you haven't lost it would be a good idea to cut them out and see if that helps.

If you check the info on the back there are a ton of sugar alcohols in them that is how they claim to have such low carbs. They subtract it out because some studies show you don't absorb them. But I've seen other studies sited that say some people absorb up to 1/2 of them. So if that's the case that could be the reason for the numerous stalled posters. If they are absorbing the net carbs plus 1/2 of the sugar alcohol carbs it could mess you up quickly.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>On the atkins website it gives a weekly menu>>

No one there, including the nutritionist, Colette Heimowitz, says to follow the menus ... as they often use ingredients that aren't allowed for the phase of Induction you're on. The "techies" who built the menus did a bad job with the recipe database.

>>haven't read anything that says anything to the contrary,>>

I've been doing Atkins forums since 2004, and it's pretty "common knowledge" that the bars are known to stall.

It's one of those things that turn up when people who are stalling and give their menu, and then eliminate something. Once eating the bars are stopped, losing often resumes.

You can take "real food" with you while you're on the road.

[Georgiana]

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haven't read anything that says anything to the contrary

Yep... what J. wrote.

Also, back in 2003, there used to be a warning on the Atkins website that, for some people, products might interfere with weight loss. And the limit back then was one product per day, not two.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

That warning is in Atkins Essentials, too. And I wonder if it's not in the new book, too?

[Georgiana]

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And I wonder if it's not in the new book, too?

Yep, it's in there.

[bizzlekitty]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

but I think I will use them for when I am on the road and not able to get real food as everyone seems to say do a clean induction.

Why wouldn't you be able to get real food when on the road? It's really not that difficult, with sufficient planning. And even if you need to, there are safe fast foods you can eat if you do some research and see what's acceptable or not.

I've never had any bars or shakes, even for emergencies. Time and time again, they stall people. They also become a fix that keeps the junk-food-and-sugar-craving demon alive.

Once you get to OWL, it can be a little easier for things like nuts or yogurt.

My favorite on the go snack for Induction are veggies like peppers. Others like hard boiled eggs.

[Elizellen]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

Save the bars for when you are at the OWL level/rung that allows all the ingredients in it.

So if it contains nuts and no other non-induction ingredients you could add it on rung 3, if it contains peanuts or soy in any of its forms you could add it on rung 6 but if it contains any kind of grains you would leave it till rung 9.

I imagine like most processed foods they have a fairly long shelf life so would still be edible then.

[Georgiana]

Re: are atkins products okay during induction?

if it contains peanuts or soy in any of its forms you could add it on rung 6

Peanuts are actually an OWL Rung 3 food, according to DANDR 2002.