the atkins bars... not on induction?

[ttdriver]

I don't trust ANA ... ever since the Doc died, I've been skeptical of everything they say/do.

Betty

[lauralei]

i'm on day 5 - doing it clean -- i tried once before and was doing great untill i started adding the bars and other "net carb" products - for me it doesn't work - have have to count the real carbs

gonna do it clean this time - and get better results

[shrinkdieter]

Howdy... just talked to the 1-800-2ATKINS people, they said-

.... that one Atkins Advantage bar per day is OK during induction. Is this wrong? I was concerned about this.

I just started the diet yesterday actually. I had two of the bars yesterday (the extra one was a no no), and one today... now did I overdo it with just the one?

I am enjoying my breakfasts more than my dinners, I must say. Yummy yummy bacon and eggs.

I am fine with ditching the bars until two weeks from now, but I am still very confused about this.

Also, I was wondering about my daily carb count - I followed the instructions of doing approximately 2-3 cups of salad veggies today, and ate meats and cheeses and etc like I'm supposed to, but my (mostly net) carb count for today is around eight... is that too low?

I am feeling a little woozy today, which the good doctor said was to be expected for some in the first 2-3 days of induction, but it didn't prevent me from hitting the gym today.

Anyways I'm glad I found this forum. I will put it in my profile after I make this post, but I'm six foot three, weigh 260 pounds (I've gained at least twenty pounds within the last year... post-doc and internship away from the wife will do that to you... emotional eating), and my goal weight is somewhere around 200 pounds, I will consider myself mostly done around 210, which I haven't weighed in YEARS.

Thanks, any thoughts and support will be much appreciated.

[hulagrl1120]

ditch the bars and eat only things from the acceptable foods list...most people eat between 12-15 carbs...list a menu or two in the Review My Menu forum if you want someone to take a look at it

[Richard6310]

Looks like this is my problem now on day 8 of the induction, but the first day being at this forum. I stocked up on advantage products (bars, and shakes, and used them sparingly for several days, until i ran out and low on money. They are quite expensive, as well. But thanks to the good posts on this forum, Im all the more wiser. i got alot of headway on DANDR today and got through chapter 12. But i can attest to the fact, that they do cause you to crave them as a sweet.

[not2late]

So now the Atkins people are recommending only one bar a day? In Atkins Essentials, they said that 2 servings of their "low carb convenience foods" were okay during Induction. Anyhow.....

It's been our collective experience, here at ADBB, that the bars, shakes, candies, etc. have a tendency to stall or slow down weight loss. It's also been the experience of Atkins Nutritionals, Inc. because they wrote in Atkins Essentials that if your weight loss slows or stops to drop these foods from your diet.

It's the weight loss stalling/slowing issue that prevents us from recommending their use---primarily because we want everyone here to be successful Atkineers and secondarily because we've known too many people fall off the wagon from using them or bad-mouth Atkins because they were using those products and didn't lose weight.

[Peytonn]

I read an articlel about how diet soda can trigger some reaction in the body that in effect causes the body to react to the fake sweetner as if it were real....(people lost weight when water was substituted for the diet drink even if nothing else changed)

probably the same kind of thing going on with these bars....

I sure was hoping though...

giving up sugar, caffeine, my diet drinks.... it's a rough rode... but I'm ready!

[shrinkdieter]

Thanks for the thoughts on the bars

OK so I wont do the bars for the next 2 weeks. No problem.

You know, I didn't used to like sweets so much... it used to be that my cravings were always for greasy salty snacks like potato chips, french fries and onion rings. Which works well when you're on Atkins...

I just packed my first induction-friendly lunch for work today... a big bowl of tuna salad (with a few celery sticks and some garlic chopped up in it), and three pickle-and-cheddar ham wraps. Also a big bottle of water, got to get started on that right now.

[Elizellen]

Sounds good Shrinkdieter :yes
Well done :joy

[thirtytogo]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

I was reviewing this old thread, and quite frankly if the book says its fine, Dr. Atkins was at the helm then i think it should be 100 percent ok to use them. Everyone is differant. What works for you isnt what works for others. - its not about being so strict. If people need a bar here or there to get through then why not!

L

[not2late]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

Hi Thirtytogo! It's nice to see you back on the boards again.

Anyhow, as I wrote in my posts, we don't recommend them because the bars and shakes affect some people badly---stalling or weight loss slow downs. Since the first 14 days of Induction are very important (Chapter 12-13 of DANDR 2002 explains why), it might be better to avoid them during this time.

Oh and here's what Dr. Atkins really thought about those bars and shakes:

The patients who stayed, however, were extremely loyal to both atkins and his low-carb diet. But they had one major complaint: In a fast-paced world where everything was low in fat or high in carbohydrates or both, it was difficult to find something that they could eat on the run while still remaining on the low-carb program. They had no time to prepare their own snacks. Perhaps something like the low-fat energy bars sold in convenience stores would be great, only low-carb instead.

Atkins hesistated, and for a good reason. One of the things he constantly stressed with his patients was that they should eat foods that were as close to their natural state as possible, and for him, any kind of energy bar was as good as poison since it was clearly a processed food...

But his patients continued to beg him for something---"you sell the vitamins and other supplements, why not energy bars?" they reasoned--and so, with great reluctance, he gave in and developed not only an energy bar but also a low-carb shake that would make it easier for patients to keep to their Atkins programs.

"As long as you only use it for emergencies," he reminded them...........

The energy bars and shakes were a necessary evil, there only because he thought his patients were too lazy to prepare the real kind of unprocessed foods that were the mainstay of his diet.

---Excerpted from:
Dr. Robert Atkins: The True Story of The Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates Lisa Rogak. Chamberlian Bros. 2005. Ch. 6

[womanpraised]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

I think that they are kinda yuck anyway.

[BabyDreamer]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

My husband was doing fine on the plan and he was cheating by adding nuts into induction. He lost a pants size in two weeks. Then, he found the Atkins bars. Since then, he has been bloated, has had several bouts of "running to the bathroom" and is craving more and more of them. I can't take them away because he is CONVINCED they are fine...blah, they have the Atkins name, blah, blah, well, I am here to say they are EVIL! Don't let yourself be fooled by people who want to make money off you!

Deb

[2big4mysize]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

I was reviewing this old thread, and quite frankly if the book says its fine, Dr. Atkins was at the helm then i think it should be 100 percent ok to use them. Everyone is differant. What works for you isnt what works for others. - its not about being so strict. If people need a bar here or there to get through then why not!

L

could you show us one bar that has the same ingredients it did when Dr Atkins wrote that he stood behind the Atkins products? I can tell you you will not find one food product from his life time that has not been altered or reformulated for better taste and market appeal after his death. And agasin if you read his qualified statement he said even if you use them you need to follow the rules and the rules say nothing not on the induction foods lists. it

it also said in an emergency they were fine. well if you can plan to have a bar in an emergency then you could plan to have a leagal food too so it isn't much of an emergency.

[thirtytogo]

Re: the atkins bars... not on induction?

Honestly, if it helps get people through, no BIG DEAL - maybe you have your opinion and i respect that, that said i think whether dr atkins or anyone says they are ok for occassional *in the book * use then i trust that. Myself i have no issues with them, no gas etc bloating, - everyone is individual - whats good for you may not be whats great for another. I just dont think we should be so matter of fact about things. What makes you crave, makes me satisfied. /shrug - Just MHO -

Lisa