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  • #16
    Re: Introduction to OWL

    Originally posted by CATBLUE
    Ok.. this may be silly... But what if you don't do # 2... I mean, Since we could have aged cheese, sour cream, butter and cream on induction, the only things left to add are milk, yogurt and fresh cheese..

    What happens if I just don't eat those things?
    I don't drink milk... it makes my stomach cramp and makes me rust to the potty.

    I like yogurt but most of them are full of fruit and sugar....

    I'm ok with cottage cheese but I haven't eaten it in years.

    Do I now have to put these things in my diet? Can I go straight to nuts...?

    What about #4.. Berries and Melons.. ? I'm allergic to all melons.. But I can eat a few berries but I have to be careful about the seeds... I have a difficult time with small seeds.

    #5... Wine.. that I can figure out!!!
    Dairy Rung includes cultured milk products like yogurt and kefir, fresh cheeses like cottage cheese/ricotta/mascarpone.

    There are low carb yogurts, but I prefer plain full fat yogurt because I can flavor it any way I like and I can also use it in savory dishes like curries, sauces, soups, beverages, etc.

    If you can't eat a particular food in a rung, then skip the food. If you know that you will never eat any food in a particular rung, then you can skip the rung. We don't, however, recommend skipping the first rung of more Induction veggies---we need the fiber and we've more or less know how these veggies affect our bodies because we have typically eaten them during our Induction phase.
    ~Megs~
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    • #17
      Re: Introduction to OWL

      The first week you add in an 5 net grams of carb. If this is a new food to you, then eat it nore than 3 times a week.


      I want to begin OWl next week but I am confused on how to begin. From the quote above, I'm thinking that I should introduce one new veggie (ex. asparagus) to my diet in a week. In that week I should have 5g of asparagus for 3 days. for example on Monday, Wednesday and Friday I would have 5g of asparagus daily. AM I on the right track here?

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      • #18
        Re: Introduction to OWL

        Originally posted by Flab To Go
        The first week you add in an 5 net grams of carb. If this is a new food to you, then eat it nore than 3 times a week.


        I want to begin OWl next week but I am confused on how to begin. From the quote above, I'm thinking that I should introduce one new veggie (ex. asparagus) to my diet in a week. In that week I should have 5g of asparagus for 3 days. for example on Monday, Wednesday and Friday I would have 5g of asparagus daily. AM I on the right track here?
        If you have never eaten asparagus or did not eat it during your Induction, then it is "new" to you. So you eat it every other day, and see what happens.

        ~Megs~
        242/141/160 (130)
        dress size 26/10/8
        5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
        My blog:
        http://mformiscellaneous.blogspot.com/

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        • #19
          Re: Introduction to OWL

          How much time do you spend on each rung? I was confused by this and did veggie rung for 1 week and now dairy for 1 week...I haven't really added too much dairy, just a little cottage cheese and a low carb ice cream bar. Should I give each rung longer than a week?
          ~Amanda Leigh~

          5'4"/F/25 years old.
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          SW-168/CW-164/GW-140





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          • #20
            Re: Introduction to OWL

            and I'm confused about "testing" new foods ~ do I need a week of testing every time I add a new veggie to my diet? For ex, I am on veggie rung now. Last week I added pumpkin. Won't it take forever if I need a week to "test" each new veggie?

            I'll be ancient before I ever get to the dairy rung! LOL

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            • #21
              Re: Introduction to OWL

              You can stay on any Rung for as long as you want, testing different foods on that rung.

              As for testing the foods, it depends what foods you want to eat during your Atkins. For example, if you anticipate being able to eat watermelon during your OWL, when you get the the Berry/Melon rung, you add watermelon. IF you don't want to add strawberries, skip them.
              ~Megs~
              242/141/160 (130)
              dress size 26/10/8
              5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
              My blog:
              http://mformiscellaneous.blogspot.com/

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              • #22
                Re: Introduction to OWL

                i just want to verify because sometimes the concept of owl seems very vague to me...

                i am currently eating around 10 net grams of carbs per day.
                when i move to the veggie rung, i will add 5 net grams of veggie carbs per day (or is it only every few days? ).
                when i move to the dairy rung, i will add 5 net grams of dairy carbs per day to the 5 net grams of veggie carbs and 10 net grams of induction carbs.

                so basically when i am on level six, i will be ingesting 10 (induction carbs) + 30 (6 levels, 5g carbs each) = 40 grams of carbohydrates per day. yes?

                i know it probably seems really obvious but i left my book at someone else's home and i need clarification so i don't mess all my hard work up.

                thanks!
                22/f/5'10"

                CW 160.0 [23.0] 12.29.2008
                GW 150.0 [21.5]
                GW 145.0 [20.8]
                GW 140.0 [20.1]
                GW 136.0 [19.5]

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                • #23
                  Re: Introduction to OWL

                  That seems about right, chunk!

                  On the veg rung if you are adding a veg on the list that you havent been eating while on induction then you only add it on alternate days the first week, and have 5 net carbs extra of one of the veg you have been eating all along on the other days.

                  Some people like to add more 5 net carb amounts of different foods on each rung to try and find out what their CCLL is earlier and therefore stay on each rung for longer.
                  Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                  Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                  Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                  F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                  • #24
                    Re: Introduction to OWL

                    SO after induction you just add 5 more carbs of veggies that you already eat?
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                    • #25
                      Re: Introduction to OWL

                      Originally posted by tulsanurse1
                      SO after induction you just add 5 more carbs of veggies that you already eat?
                      Yes -that's about it!
                      Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                      Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                      Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                      F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                      • #26
                        Re: Introduction to OWL

                        and I'm confused about "testing" new foods ~ do I need a week of testing every time I add a new veggie to my diet? For ex, I am on veggie rung now. Last week I added pumpkin. Won't it take forever if I need a week to "test" each new veggie? I'll be ancient before I ever get to the dairy rung! LOL
                        I hope this isn't seen as laziness, but every rung seems to require more and more math. I've got a lot to lose, so I'm not fretting about only being on Rung 1, after nearly 3 months. I'd grown accustomed to knowing precisely how much I could eat because it was simple. 3 cups of veggies plus, meats & 3 or 4 oz of cheese. Easy. I'm also a bit confused because in my induction carb counts, I averaged 20 net carbs total for each day. I never calculated how many came from induction veggies separate from what came from splenda, cheese, & eggs. Helpppppp Meeeeee!
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                        • #27
                          Re: Introduction to OWL

                          i just enter everything i eat onto calorie counter (it's an 'about' web site- free) so it requires no math. easy!! and it keeps me honest with myself...
                          elizabeth
                          elizabeth
                          150/139/110
                          5'2 small frame
                          7/21/08 started induction
                          9/14/08 139, lost 7.3% of body weight, 11 lbs
                          29 more till goal....

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                          • #28
                            Re: Introduction to OWL

                            Okay, I think I got it. There is OWL and there is Modified OWL. In Modified, you can skip a rung, but with the cautionaries described in the sticky above. For example, I happen to know that dairy is an addiction of mine, I could live on dairy alone pretty much. Have never tested whether it spikes my insulin, but do know that last year I was eating yogurt and cottage cheese without gaining, but when I added milk my blood sugar went up. Not sure I want to add dairy right now, I would rather add nuts and seeds. So I could do Modified OWL and add 5g of nuts and seeds carbs...like to my salad let's say, or to my stir fry, or even a snack of the luscious macadamia nuts?
                            redfoxglove
                            F/52/5'4"

                            Start date 03/07
                            Re-start date 09/08

                            HW 238/SW 208/R-SW 196.2/GW 140-150

                            Goal 1: Successful 14-day Induction, started
                            9-8-08, met on 9-21-08: -6.3 lb, -7.75 inches WOO HOO!

                            Goal 2: Lose 10% bodyweight, 19.6 pounds

                            Goal 3: Walk, exercise bike, golf, or yoga 15-30 min, 3x/wk. Consistency counts more than anything.

                            DON'T START OVER, GO FORWARD!

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                            • #29
                              Re: Introduction to OWL

                              Thanks for the detailed info.! I have been doing the induction for about three months now. In the beginning I was very strict. I lost about 20 lbs. in two, two and half months. Then I slowly added more veggies and almonds without really doing it the way it's suggested. I haven't checked my weight loss in a while. I'm wondering if it's important to do it exactly like in the book. Am I supposed to add 5 g. more of each rung each week? I make a point of keeping carbs. below 20 g. a day. Can I just stay like this and occasionally have nuts and extra veggies or is it important to do the rungs? Also I have noticed my hair slowly falling out-does this have anything to do with the diet? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Introduction to OWL

                                Originally posted by suzangirl View Post
                                Thanks for the detailed info.! I have been doing the induction for about three months now. In the beginning I was very strict. I lost about 20 lbs. in two, two and half months. Then I slowly added more veggies and almonds without really doing it the way it's suggested. I haven't checked my weight loss in a while. I'm wondering if it's important to do it exactly like in the book. Am I supposed to add 5 g. more of each rung each week? I make a point of keeping carbs. below 20 g. a day. Can I just stay like this and occasionally have nuts and extra veggies or is it important to do the rungs? Also I have noticed my hair slowly falling out-does this have anything to do with the diet? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!!

                                Hey, Suzan, not sure if you're asking me but here's my 2cents. Based on my experience, it's best to move up into OWL. That is, if you are choosing this way of eating as a lifetime thing. The reasons are, most people want more variety in their menu than what 20g of carb affords. For example, I'd sure like to be able to eat some carb-controlled bread for a treat, like the zucchini bread in the back of the DANDR. Other reasons are pretty much related to the variety thing. I've noticed some people choosing not to go forward with the plan as outlined by the Dr. For me, after looking at it all and seriously choosing to do this as a "forever" plan, I made the choice to move up into OWL.

                                It's really simple to do once you get the idea into your head. Each of us is unique, our bodies react to foods differently. I might not get to eat the same things you do. So in OWL you pick a food you might want to eat more of, lets say green beans or brussels sprouts (I happen to love veggies)...on first week of OWL you eat 5g more of that food every other day. Still good results? Second week I might choose to add some dairy, ie cottage cheese. So 5g more of that food every other day in addition to what I did last week, still good results? Third week I might choose another dairy, I'm really missing my yogurt. After a week adding 5g yogurt every other day (plain yogurt w/artificial sweetener, not sugar-laden yogurt) I find, oh no, I'm not on my TOM or pre-TOM, but when I added the yogurt I didn't lose that week. Any other reasons, like I didn't drink my water or I ate a lot of pork rinds (salt makes me hold water)...? No? Then maybe it's the yogurt. Drop the yogurt, spend a week at the same level I was at on Week 2.

                                All I can say about anyone who thinks it's too much math...I don't know what to tell you. Everything worth having requires effort. I want the health, the energy, and the good looks that go with being slimmer. So I'll do the math.

                                Good luck to ya...

                                (Oh yeah, about the hair falling out...could be several things but what if it was something good like, you're finally getting enough protein in your diet and now your body is growing new hair?)
                                redfoxglove
                                F/52/5'4"

                                Start date 03/07
                                Re-start date 09/08

                                HW 238/SW 208/R-SW 196.2/GW 140-150

                                Goal 1: Successful 14-day Induction, started
                                9-8-08, met on 9-21-08: -6.3 lb, -7.75 inches WOO HOO!

                                Goal 2: Lose 10% bodyweight, 19.6 pounds

                                Goal 3: Walk, exercise bike, golf, or yoga 15-30 min, 3x/wk. Consistency counts more than anything.

                                DON'T START OVER, GO FORWARD!

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