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  • #46
    Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

    What a GREAT thread!!!
    Ok...just so I know I've got this right...bare with me please.

    Rung 1 you add 5grams of vegies to the 20 from induction totalling 25.
    Rung 2 you add 5 grams of dairy to the 25 from rung 1
    Rung 3 you add 5 grams of seeds and nuts to the 30 from rung 2
    Rung 4 you add 5 grams of berries to the 35 from rung 3
    Rung 5 you add 5 grams of legumes to the 40 from rung 4
    Rung 6 you add 5 grams of fruits other than berries to the 45 from rung 5
    Rung 7 you add 5 grams of starchy vegetables to the 50 from rung 6
    Rung 8 you add 5 grams of whole grains to the 55 from rung 7
    (I don't drink alcohol so I'm down a rung)
    So by the time I get to rung 8 I should be consuming 60 carbs a day...do I have this right?
    As well....how long should I stay in each rung?
    Also...when adding new foods like in rung 2 I remember reading in the book that you include them only on 3 days of the 7 in the first week to ensure there is no weight gain...soooo...if there is no weight gain do you move on to the next rung and add the previous everyday or do you do another week including that new food everyday?
    Thank you...can't wait to hear if I've got this down.

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    • #47
      Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

      I have some of the same questions as sensfan. Is it okay to only eat the foods on my particular rung on some days and not all? I am having having trouble keeping my ratios of fats/protein/carbs right as I add in new foods.

      I find myself hanging pretty close to the induction stuff. Is this okay? I can't seem to retrain my brain. Any suggestions?

      I am currently on rung 5, but I may be doing it all wrong. Do I have to eat foods from each of my rungs everyday?




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      • #48
        Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

        sensfan, yes. Also, if you find your CCLL is 35, you can still go up the carb ladder. What you do is switch 5 net carbs of an OWL food for 5 net carbs of the rung food.

        kisstuck, no, you don't have to eat all the rung foods every day. What you have to eat every day is the 3 cups of veggies from Induction because that forms your minimum daily vegetable intake. But if you don't want to eat fresh dairy today, you don't have to do it. If you don't want to eat berries tomorrow, you don't have to do it.

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        • #49
          Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

          Thank you so much...I read and re-read that chapter but was still a litte fuzzy. I appreciate the clarity!




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          • #50
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            • #51
              Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

              I have a question that I know is probably dumb. I HATE lettuce and cold leafy foods. May I eat 3 cups of acceptable green, yellow, and red,(fresh and cooked) veggies everyday instead? The though of cold leaves make me gag and so I'm having trouble getting my veggies in. I will stay on my 25 carbs. Somebody Please Help!!

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              • #52
                Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                You dont ever have to eat lettuce if you dont like it there are plenty of other vegetables on the allowed list!!

                Once I got to the veggies rung I started to make sauces with some of my veggies. Red or yellow peppers and chopped onions cooked in butter make a great tasting additon to any meats and are a good way to get your extra 5 net carbs in.

                You can also cook many other of the 'salad vegetables' choices. I like to cook celery slowly in butter or put it under the meat in a slow cooker.
                Last edited by Elizellen; May 6, 2007, 03:07 PM. Reason: typo corrected
                Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
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                • #53
                  Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                  I personally don't get hung up on the salad thing. I enjoy any of the other "allowed" veggies as long as I am meeting the required amount. But if there is a question, definately defer to the others who have been on this longer than I have.




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                  • #54
                    Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                    sensfan1960............in reference to what you posted earlier

                    "What a GREAT thread!!!
                    Ok...just so I know I've got this right...bare with me please.

                    Rung 1 you add 5grams of vegies to the 20 from induction totalling 25.
                    Rung 2 you add 5 grams of dairy to the 25 from rung 1
                    Rung 3 you add 5 grams of seeds and nuts to the 30 from rung 2
                    Rung 4 you add 5 grams of berries to the 35 from rung 3
                    Rung 5 you add 5 grams of legumes to the 40 from rung 4
                    Rung 6 you add 5 grams of fruits other than berries to the 45 from rung 5
                    Rung 7 you add 5 grams of starchy vegetables to the 50 from rung 6
                    Rung 8 you add 5 grams of whole grains to the 55 from rung 7"



                    I was told that you don't add 5 carbs the week you move on to another Rung. I was told you don't do this at the same time. The way I understand what you wrote is that you move on to another Rung and add 5 additional carbs at the same time.

                    I'm really confused now since I'm getting ready to move on to Rung 2. I'm currently just in Rung 1, 25 carbs, 2nd week.

                    Does anyone else know which is correct?




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                    • #55
                      Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                      Still no answer, still confused.
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                      • #56
                        Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                        Originally posted by elsy
                        sensfan1960............in reference to what you posted earlier

                        "What a GREAT thread!!!
                        Ok...just so I know I've got this right...bare with me please.

                        Rung 1 you add 5grams of vegies to the 20 from induction totalling 25.
                        Rung 2 you add 5 grams of dairy to the 25 from rung 1
                        Rung 3 you add 5 grams of seeds and nuts to the 30 from rung 2
                        Rung 4 you add 5 grams of berries to the 35 from rung 3
                        Rung 5 you add 5 grams of legumes to the 40 from rung 4
                        Rung 6 you add 5 grams of fruits other than berries to the 45 from rung 5
                        Rung 7 you add 5 grams of starchy vegetables to the 50 from rung 6
                        Rung 8 you add 5 grams of whole grains to the 55 from rung 7"



                        I was told that you don't add 5 carbs the week you move on to another Rung. I was told you don't do this at the same time. The way I understand what you wrote is that you move on to another Rung and add 5 additional carbs at the same time.

                        I'm really confused now since I'm getting ready to move on to Rung 2. I'm currently just in Rung 1, 25 carbs, 2nd week.

                        Does anyone else know which is correct?




                        You got the basic idea. Your first 5 net carb addition will be 5 net carbs to whatever you've been eating during Induction. For example, if during Induction, you were eating 15 net carbs, then you add 5 net carbs to that to make 20.

                        As for moving along weekly, Dr. Atkins says you can do this in the book. For some people, they take their time and spend 2 weeks on each rung before moving on. They find that they can try out more foods on each rung and they can see how these foods affect their bodies.

                        There is no limit on how long you can stay on rung or how long you can stay on a carb level. HOWEVER, you must find your CCLL. Too many people think that if they can skip this exercise until they reach Pre-Maintenance. Well, they don't realize that during Pre-Maintenance, they need to know their CCLL to help them determine their CCML (Criticial Carbohydrate MAINTENANCE Level.)

                        The other thing that's worrisome is that some OWLers who eat far below their CCLL, hit a weight loss plateau that doesn't end until they begin eating closer to their CCLL.
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                        • #57
                          Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                          not2late, thanks for the advise. I have been losing weight slowly but steadly, so the last thing I want is to plataeu. So I'll defenitely go up the rungs and add the carbs. I will stay on each rung 2-3 weeks for sure.

                          I feel bad about saying this, but I keep thinking and worried that if I go through the rungs too soon, I won't lose as much weight or it might take me twice the time to lose what I need to lose. Guilty here
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                          • #58
                            Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                            I know what you are saying, but I look at it like this....Losing weight is a big pain in the you-know-what. The last thing I ever want to do is to regain and have to start all over again. So I figure, it's better to lose slowly and learn about my body and how it reacts to food, rather than rush through to goal only to regain and go back on a weight loss regimen. The more I learn about myself and my body the better it will be for me to keep this weight off.
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                            • #59
                              Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                              Wow, nobody here for a long time, huh? I have a question about the dairy rung.

                              I love to whip up heavy cream and float it in my coffee. (Yeah, I am still drinking it - not causing a stall, so um... anyway.) The listed amount on this list is 3/4 cup heavy cream... wow. But on my carton it says 1 carb per Tablespoon, which works out to 1/4 cup + 1 Tbsp = 5 grams carbs. Just a little over a quarter-cup. Is there some reason I don't know of for the amount listed here to be 3/4 cup?? That is a huge amount more. Just curious, and if the answer is to just use my carton info, that's fine, I was wondering if there is some secret... hee hee.
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                              • #60
                                Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                                I think it must depend on the brand of cream you use.

                                I just checked the one I buy (Double cream from Lidl) and it lists 5 net carbs for a whole cup!

                                I would go by the manufacturer's info on the pack.
                                Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                                Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                                Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





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