Scaling back the carbs

[JaxMama]

So I think I am at my CCLL when I get to 40 or a little more.

I had spent 12 days before 3/30 just waiting to drop from 137.40. I did on 3/30 to 137.00

Ever since I have started this I will lose consistently for atleast 3 days before leveling out and gaining again and the processes starts over. Not this time, on 3/31 back to 137.40 and today at 137.40

I don't have any reason to explain now two weeks of no weight loss. I wasn't upset about it until yesterday when I didn't drop anymore. 1 oz would have been great.

Since I don't have a goal but I am not 100% happy with my weight I am going to scale back to 35 grams and see what happens. I started today tailering my diet to revert back to basics meat and carbs. I think if the scale does drop in a timely manner then I think I will have found my CCLL or I just need more veggies?

I don't eat frankenfoods and have had ateast 110 oz of water a day.
The only thing I did different in the days previous to the loss and then "gain" was 2 cups of coffee with additional splenda last Sat/Sun. I consumed 5 packets instead of 3 each day.

For those of you in maintenance/pre-maintenance what do you think?

[Georgiana]

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It's happened to me many times to lose no weight for two weeks in a row, even before finding my CCLL.

or I just need more veggies?

How many net carbs from vegetables are you eating now?

[atkinsgal08]

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>> I don't have any reason to explain now two weeks of no weight loss.>>

Are you sure?

You had cake recently, right?

[Elizellen]

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When our losses slow down there is often no reason at all for it except that 'it happens'

If you think you have reached your CCLL then perhaps it is time to settle there for a while and maybe venture into the higher rungs now and again, trying out various foods one at a time, using the 'blood sugar symptoms' in DANDR to see if they are affecting your body.

[JaxMama]

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Yes I had 1 piece cake Friday night. But the scale moved down 4 days later to 137.00. So I couldn't be sure. I also had alcohol too that Friday night and peeing out dark ketones for 1.5 days. And I factored all that in before deciding to post because I knew some people would shun me. Not to be offensive.

Whatever I did yesterday worked because I dropped from 137.4 to 136.80, although I know it's only 2 oz from my previous lowest. But at this point baby steps is fine with me.

As for the veggies I don't think I was getting enough I was only getting up to 12 grams a day (before fiber). So when I planned my meals for yesterday and today I tried to get above 15 as the minimum.

So today I have mushrooms in my omelet, a 1.5 cup salad with mushrooms, tomatoes and cucumbers
And I sliced up some celery, cucumber and red pepper to dip in sour cream. All my veggies for today are at 14.9 carbs (before fiber). I would like to be a little more so I will see what I can conjure up at dinner with my cumin chicken.

I will see what the scale does tomorrow. Both days put me under 35 net carbs.

I am not asking for drastic changes I am very happy with the 2 oz decrease. That's all I can expect being in the middle of my BMI. But I would very much like to lose a couple more pounds before I hit 30 and also learn to maintain.

Thanks everyone for your input.

[Elizellen]

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I also had alcohol too that Friday night and peeing out dark ketones for 1.5 days.

Yes, as your body burns the alcohol the ketone sticks register the acetones (?) exactly the same as if they were finding ketones in your urine It misleads many lowcarbers into thinking they were still in ketosis according to the sticks.

As for the veggies I don't think I was getting enough I was only getting up to 12 grams a day (before fiber). So when I planned my meals for yesterday and today I tried to get above 15 as the minimum.

So today I have mushrooms in my omelet, a 1.5 cup salad with mushrooms, tomatoes and cucumbers
And I sliced up some celery, cucumber and red pepper to dip in sour cream. All my veggies for today are at 14.9 carbs (before fiber). I would like to be a little more so I will see what I can conjure up at dinner with my cumin chicken.

It is great to see all the planning you are putting into getting your carb count up

But I would very much like to lose a couple more pounds before I hit 30 and also learn to maintain.

As you climb the carb ladder and discover how many carbs and which foods your body likes you to eat I am sure you will lose those few extra pounds and have designed a great maintenance framework to follow.
It will be interesting to see if you end up with a slimmer, more toned body but at a higher weight than you were before you lowcarbed as many of our maintainers have reported.

[not2late]

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What are your inches doing? Dr. Atkins measures fat loss by pounds lost and by inches lost. Even if you don't lose pounds, if you continue to lose inches, then you are still losing fat per Dr. Atkins and that carb level is appropriate for you to continue upward.

Remember, the scale may not move because you might be retaining water or might be replacing muscle for fat. So be sure to track your measurements. I was stuck with a 5 pound weight range for several months, yet I lost clothing sizes.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>Yes I had 1 piece cake Friday night. But the scale moved down 4 days later to 137.00. So I couldn't be sure. I also had alcohol too that Friday night and peeing out dark ketones for 1.5 days. And I factored all that in before deciding to post because I knew some people would shun me.>>

No "shunning" here ... the point of reminding you about your cake was that you stated " I don't have any reason to explain now two weeks of no weight loss." And I think there is a possible reason.

"Cheating" doesn't just show up the next day or the day after ... the scale simply doesn't tell us the next day we were "bad" or "good".

The effects of "cheating" can last for a few days.

>>today I tried to get above 15 as the minimum.>>

That's probably still not enough. MOST of your net carbs should be coming from vegetables ... so it appears that you aren't doing that.

[Jules1980]

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I have lost 2lbs in 3 weeks! So to me that sucks and I am not happy...but I've lost alot of inches! I don't really understand it! How can you drop dress sizes and have the scale on a stand still?! Anyways....I guess what I am trying to say is "Have you measured up lately"?

[not2late]

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I have lost 2lbs in 3 weeks! So to me that sucks and I am not happy...but I've lost alot of inches! I don't really understand it! How can you drop dress sizes and have the scale on a stand still?! Anyways....I guess what I am trying to say is "Have you measured up lately"?

Because the scale doesn't measure fat loss. your body is made up of muscle, fat, skin, etc. and it also has water bathing the cells. So if you retaing a pound of water, and don't lose any muscle or fat, the scale will show you "gained" a pound. Likewise, if you lost a pound of fat, but didn't gain any muscle or retain any water, the scale will show you lost a pound. Or if you gain a pound of muscle and lose a pound of fat, the scale will show no movement.

Fat typically takes up more space than muscle. So if you are losing fat but retaining water or gaining muscle, that scale might not move. however, you may see a loss of inches.

[JaxMama]

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I gave up on the measurements there is no point since I get a difference measurement each time. As for my clothes, about the same, I think. I am able to fit into almost all my old clothes. There is one pair of jeans that are a little tight. I have 3 skirts that I used to wear that I measuring my inch loss with now. I couldn't be caught in public yet wearing them. Maybe in 3 lbs or another 1/2 inch off my legs.

Water retention can't be the culprit because I drink way over the allotted amount atleast 110 oz, minimum.

Could I have stalled because that's me? Absolutely but I had to do something to get it back in gear.

As for the cake, I was at day 10 of no weight loss before that happened so my pause started before. I can't blame the cake on everything. If I ate cake everyday I could see that as a problem Did I blame it for the first few days, absolutely.

But now that I am over the cake and it's out of my system I need to jump start this again since this is not where I want to be.

I am doing the veggie count, I think that is important and I lost sight of it. That's my fault. If I start to see a difference and the scale drops I will know that was the most important factor to help me lose weight. But I also want to see what happens at 40 grams with additional veggies.

Thanks

[atkinsgal08]

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>>I also want to see what happens at 40 grams with additional veggies.>>

Why are you ignoring the basic tenet of Atkins ... that MOST of your daily net carbs should be coming from [Induction] vegetables?

What you're eating now isn't even Induction level (if you go by the 12-15 net carbs).

Why don't you try doing Atkins "by the book" instead of tweaking it "so early"?

[JaxMama]

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My purpose of my post was discuss it. I am trying to tailor my diet. I lost track over the last two weeks. And I was not in anyway shape of form purposely trying to tailer it to what I wanted. I do watch my veggies but I let it slip without realizing it. I stopped counting veggie carbs and look where it got me? No excuses. I understand veggies are very important and I eat them everyday. But apparently my body does well with more. I am happy I know that now. It's one more step to a successful maintenance.

I am not perfect and I won't ever be, but I am sure as heck trying to change my diet again.

When I finally got a day to look at my foods overall is when I realized I had a veggie issue again. I was not counting my veggie intake, just overall. No excuses from me.

[2big4mysize]

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Yes I had 1 piece cake Friday night. But the scale moved down 4 days later to 137.00. So I couldn't be sure. I also had alcohol too that Friday night and peeing out dark ketones for 1.5 days. And I factored all that in before deciding to post because I knew some people would shun me. Not to be offensive.

Whatever I did yesterday worked because I dropped from 137.4 to 136.80, although I know it's only 2 oz from my previous lowest. But at this point baby steps is fine with me.

As for the veggies I don't think I was getting enough I was only getting up to 12 grams a day (before fiber). So when I planned my meals for yesterday and today I tried to get above 15 as the minimum.

So today I have mushrooms in my omelet, a 1.5 cup salad with mushrooms, tomatoes and cucumbers
And I sliced up some celery, cucumber and red pepper to dip in sour cream. All my veggies for today are at 14.9 carbs (before fiber). I would like to be a little more so I will see what I can conjure up at dinner with my cumin chicken.

I will see what the scale does tomorrow. Both days put me under 35 net carbs.

I am not asking for drastic changes I am very happy with the 2 oz decrease. That's all I can expect being in the middle of my BMI. But I would very much like to lose a couple more pounds before I hit 30 and also learn to maintain.

Thanks everyone for your input.

so what did you do?

remember that at your current level of excess pounds one pound is going to be a huge change in your remaining pounds to shed. for somebody with 10 pounds left that whould be 10% change while for somebody with 100 pounds it would only be 1% change. It is going to take more time to shed those pounds now then it did even a month ago. Hang in there and if you get to 4 weeks of no pounds lost and your clothes aren't any loser they you know you have reached your CCLL if you haven't eatten off plan or cut back your exercise during thtose 4 weeks.

It can be frustrating as we want it now but each day we keep working our atkins makes us one day healtheir and closer to being that smaller healtheir person we want to be.

[JaxMama]

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What did I do? I cut my carbs by atleast 5 grams a day and up'd my veggie count. That's it. Calories still the same.

I am trying to be very patient. I think I have been. I will take what I can get with my 2 oz loss. I knew there was something wrong when I lost and gained right back so I thought I should take a look at my menus for the previous weeks to see what I was doing differently. I formulated my plan from there.

I am not looking to drop pounds over night. I just looked at my calendar. On March 2 I weighed in at 139.80. So I lost 3 lbs in a month. That's good, I'd like to stay on that track.

I am not ready to go onto maintenance if my CCLL is 40. So I had to re-evalute what I was doing. If it was wrong, I was not intentionally doing Atkins wrong.

But I was getting frustrated and I hoped I found my problem and fixed it. Plus I do need to learn to eat more veggies. But I run out so quickly. The people see me at the store 3-4X a week stocking up.

I wish I could buy stock in Publix, I'd be rich. LOL