How should I "ease" off Atkins for a camping trip?

[AllieCat0817]

This kind of mentality that you are embracing, and your so called supporters is a dangerous and treacherous road to follow. Its called "Crash Diet Mentality".

I personally don't care what you do, and maybe its ok to think this way for someone with such little to lose, but for the majority of people who have alot to lose, this kind of thinking is literally dangerous for your health.

just know that there will be a bag of chips laying around and I'll just HAVE to havea couple

I mean what is that? You have to have some chips? That sound like you living to eat instead of vice versa.

The hardcore followers such as myself are on this board. don't be suprised if you post a question about something we really despise and expect to get a pat on the back.

We are here to help people who are really struggling, not help make excuses.

EXACTLY.

[ttdriver]

The hardcore followers such as myself are on this board.

Count me in as hardcore!! OH YEAH! :nod :nod :nod

Betty

[G-Mom]

Enchanted, hon, you sooo can go on this camping trip without cheating! I know you can. Like others have said, fill up a big bag with low carb snack foods. Heck, I would even pack those low carb bars and even eat them to just to avoid eating high carb crap...I think they even make smores flavor!

I don't know if anyone goes camping without taking ice and a cooler, so you can even take hard boiled eggs and raw veggies with ranch dressing.

I won't berate you, but I am a hardcore follower of this WOL. I look at following Atkins somewhat like following a strict religion. A truly religious person wouldn't just up and decide to become an atheist "for 4 days" then start believing again after that. I know that is an extreme analogy, but its an example of WOL.

[Miss Phode]

I look at following Atkins somewhat like following a strict religion. A truly religious person wouldn't just up and decide to become an atheist "for 4 days" then start believing again after that.

Hallelujah! :yikes

[Enchantedraisin]

Oh beh, it's not religion to me... but I can totally understand why many people would live by it in that way.

I dunno, I have a life to live, I love food... and it won't be the end of the world. I can simply reinduct, get into ketosis and start over again. It's really no biggy to me... as long as I don't do it too much... cause that's not very good for you.


I DO have 10 lbs left, don't I? Seems that number has been there for 2 months :/ ... I started reinducting last Sunday because of a small cheat I made... just to get back into ketosis again. I was thinking I'd move into move veggie rung after this week. BTW, i keep testing with strips... nothing. I used to have hardcore ketosis.. haven't seen that in ages. I'm nto eating anything illegal. Bah

[AllieCat0817]

I used to have hardcore ketosis.. haven't seen that in ages. I'm nto eating anything illegal. Bah

Maybe from reinducting too many times. Read this:
The Uses and Abuses of Induction

Phase one of the Atkins Nutritional Approachâ„¢ not only jump-starts your weight loss, it is also a convenient refuge to which you can retreat when necessary.

Properly used, Induction can help you get off a weight-loss plateau (see What Is a Plateau?) or to get back on the program after a lapse. So if you've fallen off your Lifetime Maintenance program for whatever reason, you can return to Induction and, like the ignition of an automobile, it will get your engine to turn over and start you down the road again.

If you reached your goal weight before slipping off the wagon for a brief period, you won't have to do Induction for long, just until you get back into lipolysis and the secondary process of ketosis. You'll know that has happened when you once again experience the ability to be in control of your appetite—the feeling that was such a revelation after the first 48 hours on Induction. These are perfectly appropriate uses of Induction.

However, Induction can be abused, and that abuse can ultimately threaten your ability to maintain a healthy weight. First of all, if you retreat to Induction every time you stray, you may begin to reinforce a dangerous pattern of behavior. By knowing Induction is there as a refuge, it may keep you from following the guidelines of the stage you are in. For a minor infraction or even a day of cheating, there is no need to go back to Induction. Simply drop your carb consumption down 5 or 10 grams for a couple of days, or go back to the previous phase. It is important that you learn how to eat properly as a way of life. Zigzagging back and forth between Induction and Maintenance means you have not integrated this new, healthy eating pattern into your life.

Another more serious concern is the impact this going back and forth can have on your metabolism. (See “The Wrong Way to Do Atkins.”) You may have heard people say, “I love doing Atkins because I can cheat on the weekends, then go back to Induction on Monday morning.” While this behavior pattern may work for the short term, it will probably backfire in more ways than one. It's likely that your metabolism will adapt at a certain point—in a sense, developing a tolerance. People who repeatedly regain weight and go back to Induction sometimes find that they do not experience the dramatic and easy weight loss they initially enjoyed. Add in the facts that none of us is getting any younger and that our metabolism's natural tendency is to slow down with passing years. Finally, your body pays a price healthwise if you dramatically switch back and forth repeatedly from a fat-burning to a glucose-burning metabolism.

Go back to Induction when you have to. However, understand that If you retreat regularly, you may be in for a nasty surprise. After repeated weight gain, forays to Induction may not always work as effectively for you.

Speaks loud n clear to me. Nothin to play around with.

[Enchantedraisin]

How are you supposed to do it properly then? They a;ways said to go back to Induction to get back into ketosis... otherwise I wouldn't be able to.

[AllieCat0817]

Your original post said you are reinducting... what are you reinducting from? Was it from going off plan? Have you been through the various phases of the program?

The proper way would be to go through each phase of the program as you lose more and more weight. Determine your CCCL by adding in those 5 extra grams of good 'allowed' carbs.

If you keep 'reinducting' because you are going off plan repeatedly, your body won't believe you anymore (just as described in the above article I posted).

Just a thought...

[Enchantedraisin]

I had a couple pieces of cake one day. I didn't mean to give in, but it was someone's birthday and it was so hard. I'm usually good about it.

If I do that, then I couldn't go into Induction again? I thought I should...

I have only cheated twice while I have been doing Atkins this entire time

I was under the impression that if you fall off the wagon, you should go back to induction.. otherwise you can't get into ketosis.

[AllieCat0817]

Also, how do you know you haven't been in ketosis? Relying on ketostix? I don't think they are always accurate.

If you are only 10 lb from goal, then calories may be an issue too.

My strongest suggestion is to stick to low carb on your entire trip. It can be done. I was in Orlando for 7 days visiting all the parks.. and stayed on plan based on a conscious choice. I did it by taking fruit and Advantage bars (which I do NOT eat any other time) and bottled water in a backpack. Why don't you take some good low gylcemic fruits that 'camp' easily (apples, oranges etc), maybe some Advantage bars and things like that. Also maybe pack some nuts.. I did that too. I bought the individual serving bags of peanuts from Wal Mart. Peanuts aren't the lowest carb thing, but its still a good choice that is easy to pack and eat.

[AllieCat0817]

I had a couple pieces of cake one day. I didn't mean to give in, but it was someone's birthday and it was so hard. I'm usually good about it.

If I do that, then I couldn't go into Induction again? I thought I should...

I have only cheated twice while I have been doing Atkins this entire time

I was under the impression that if you fall off the wagon, you should go back to induction.. otherwise you can't get into ketosis.

How many carbs do you normally get in a day? Again, if you are moving through each phase you don't necessarily have to go back to Induction. You can just drop your carbs back by say 5g for a few days.

If you have been at the same weight for a while now, look at calorie count and carb count. Sometimes its a good thing to increase good carbs and lower calories some as you get closer to goal.

[Enchantedraisin]

well, at this point I feel like I messed myself up and I feel irritated and maybe there is no point in doing this anymore??

Like, what should I do now... just continue on and move up the rungs?.. now I feel like it won't do anything.


And I'm not understanding what I should do if I DO happen to cheat. Go back to the rung I was at before... or consume the amount of net carbs I was eating before?

SHeesh, I thought I read everything.

[Enchantedraisin]

Hmm.. around 15-16 carbs.

My calorie levels are pretty healthy, I'd say.. 1200..1500 any given day.

I always eat the right amount of veggies every day for Induction.

So would you suggest that I move up 5 more carbs today with veggies? Up to about 20 carbs?

[AllieCat0817]

Yes I suggest upping your carbs by 5. It really is important to move through all the phases. Hey I remember reading in DANDR... the good dr was talking about some of his patients who were close to goal, and stuck at a stall. He told them to up their carbs, and the rest of their weight came off.

If it is a one meal cheat, then I wouldn't go back to Induction but just resume your existing phase.

Now if it was an all out carb blowout lasting for days... then induction would probably be required. But you just couldn't keep doing that....

[Enchantedraisin]

Okay, I'll do just that.... thank you very much for helping me. I'm sorry for being rude earlier. I apologize.