Weight-loss stall?? -- try this

[Streetcorner Philosopher]

Alright I'm going to suggest something I've noticed over the past months:

When you eat healthy....and I mean HEALTHY... the cells in your body will become nourished like they've never been nourished before. Believe it or not, hunger starts at the cellular level. When you eat junk food all the time, your body feels hungry, not because it actually is, but because it needs nourishment.

What is nutritious eating? In my opinion its NOT eating low-carb chips....or low-carb bread....or low-carb pasta....or low-carb crackers. Nutrition comes from fresh, whole organic fruits and un-cooked vegetables. Fruits and veggies for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And LOTS of them. Also freshly JUICED fruits and vegetables are wonderful because the juice goes quickly into your bloodstream and is carried immediately throughout your body.

If you will try this for a week or two, I believe those of you who are having trouble on this diet will start succeeding because your hunger levels will diminish and your stomach will start SHRINKING. Not only that but your body will be fed on the cellular level which means your cravings for fattening foods will subside. Besides, the more fruits and vegetables you eat, the less room you have for other garbage (foods).

What about meats? Meats are low-carb that's for sure. But are they nutritious? Not really. They fill up your tummy..but that's about it. So concentrate on fruits, un-cooked veggies, nuts, seeds (flaxseeds are great), and a few meats (if you must.) Meanwhile cut out virtually everything that comes in a package or from a bag. Also cut out milk products, breads and wheat products.

The great thing about eating this way is you will FEEL so much better. If you have depression or anxiety your symptoms they will probably subside. If you have chronic inflammation somewhere in your body that will probably be reduced or eliminated. If you have headaches or backaches or Lupus or MS you'll probably notice a reduction of symptoms because your nervous system is better functioning and your muscles are more relaxed.

In fact if you have any health issues at all, THIS is the way to eat to cure yourself. Healing starts from within...as does weight-loss. SP

[Sheshy]

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Interesting, but truthfully, you sound a little like one of those late night infomercials...you know the one that sells the juicer?

Anyway, seriously, I follow the Atkins plan...what plan are you following?

[Streetcorner Philosopher]

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Actually I'm just high on life because in the past 8 months not only have I lost over 30 pounds, but I've cured myself of several health ailments that have plagued me over the past 10 years. First being chronic tension headaches...which I've suffered from for years...they've completely disappeared...second being chronic prostatitis (pelvic pain) that has also strangely vanished. Also my cholesterol has dropped 40 points and my blood pressure is much lower. Also I feel happier, healthier and more alive than anytime since I was 15 years old. I'm not selling anything...just the truth.

[Sheshy]

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That's great that you've improved your life with your way of eating and are feeling good because of it, I'm really happy for you!

But, I remember reading a thread that was oddly similar to this thread ... see the link:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=185677#post185677

It doesn't serve any purpose to open this can of worms again, does it?

[kkat55]

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I just saw your post and was curious too on how you lost your 30 pounds.

My Dad and I joined AIM back in 1996, drank Barley Green, Herbal Fiberblend and did the vegetarian thing for a while (we also walked two miles a day together -- him being 73 at the time).

Later I married someone who also studied nutrition who told me that you had to have protein in your diet and that you wouldn't get enough through the plant-based products.

Hum...didn't want to believe him after all I read by George Malkimus (spelling of the name?)

Later that same month we went to the health food store where the lady worked who introduced me to this lifestyle and she was starting to take some type of protein supplements because she was losing a lot of muscle mass. The dr told her it was due to the lack of protein in her diet. (Hum...could it be my DH was right? Yeowie!)

Hence, after researching low-carb for a few years I found that the same results can be had with a high protein diet. I have found testimonies of people who have gotten off of insulin (or lowered their dosage) and lost various other ailments in the process (just as my Dad had done doing the veggie/Barley Green thing).

Basically, it seems to me to all boil down to this: eat like our grandparents did...three meals a day (meat and veggies), don't snack or eat junkfood, drink your water and exercise. Eating low carb is helping fight the cravings and trying to normalize your system. After that it clears the way to eating healthy for life.

Anyway, I just wanted to find out where you were coming from and share with you where I have been (since it sounded like you may be on the same path).

[Kent]

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Great plan for you, and I wish you the best seeking your healthy eaiting plans. I beg to differ on a number of points. We in the Atkins plan also believe in the nutrition of unprocessed foods - including high fiber vegetables - low sugar and starch-laden vegetables and fruits and nuts in their appropriate place. Where I differ from your prescribed plan is some supposed goodness of all things natural, and all things green or vegetables.

Just eating vegetables will not get you healthy, and one can mess up one's blood chemistry just as easy by overdoing it on natural sugars and starches in items like oranges and corn. The body simply does need all those glucose molecules in it for fuel and replenish its stores each day. As for meat, there are other sources for amino acids in one's diet, but cooked meat (whether it be beef, chicken, or take your pick -- high fat or lean) remains one of the best methods to rebuild one muscles, which are constrantly in need of repair. Especially when you are exercising, which I noticed was missing in your plan for healthy living.

The human body needs protein each day, even more so than it needs carbs for fuel. It can synthesize glucose from the protein via neoglucogenesis and create ATP molecules by burning fat for fuel. What it can not do is make amino acids by anything other than the food you consume or the muscles or tissues of your body. I would much rather it be replenishing itself from sources outside my body than my body.

I have never felt better than on Atkins and the health benefits it provides. Good luck on yours.

[Streetcorner Philosopher]

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Actually I didn't tell the whole story....here it is:

The reason I started this journey I'm on is because my father-in-law was diagnosed with colon cancer 2 years ago. He went through radiation, chemotherapy and had several surgeries. Well to make a long story short, his health slowly deteriorated. His doctors just gave him a few weeks to a month to live. He got to the point to where he could not get up out of bed, and his will to live evaporated. Well he and my mother-in-law learned of an alternative cancer treatment called the "Gerson" therapy from a lady from our church. This treatment treats cancer through REAL nutrition and juicing, among other things such as flaxseed oil.

Within 2 weeks of this new treatment he was up out of bed and walking around. At first he thought his new feelings of rejuvenation were a fluke. But more and more days passed....and he kept feeling better. Everyone, including his doctors were just confounded and utterly amazed. Over the next several months his cancer indicators diminished to virtually nill and his tumors all but disappeared. He started exercising, playing with the grandkids and returning to his old self.

My father-in-law kept preaching to me and my wife (we both had health problems) to try this therapy. Of course seeing the miracle that happened to him, I knew I had to at least try it. I don't do the exact Gerson therapy...but I follow along as best I can.

In the past 8 months I've CURED an assortment of health issues that are generally difficult to overcome. My wife has had the result. She had chronic anxiety for many years and has had troubles sleeping at night. She now sleeps soundly. She also was pre-diabetic and her bloodwork is now perfect. This truly has been a blessing for our whole family.

[fawn]

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Street
While I respect what works for you, it is much appreciated that when posts such as yours are put on a "specific" board, please use a disclaimer for new people. There are so many that try to "wing it" on this wol and while we encourage them to read the book, your post is contrary to atkins.

Again, this is an Atkins board and a disclaimer is a simple form of respect.

Like I said, while I respect what has worked for you as well, you feel good it is not even the maintenance level of Atkins you are referring to. I am on maintenance and I would not eat that much high glycemic fruit in one day. I have been doing this for 5 years, am at goal, weight train as well I run 5 days a week. But....the form of eating you are doing would not work for me. I need my protein at least 3x a day.

Let me give you an example, I believe in leptin re-feeds but you wil not see me posting it on this board. I ate pure sugar/low fat all day yesterday to get the leptin hormone moving as I am trying to build more lean muscle. (yuck!!! by the way) Again, I am at goal but trying to build more muscle. So, do you see where everyone is? Not questioning what you are doing for yourself but more so letting you know what is appropriate. These boards are mandated or they would be out of control.

P.S........read a bit about food combining as well. Some of those fruits don't get digested properly as acids, etc. clash and wreak havoc on your digestive system.

[ttdriver]

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What about meats? Meats are low-carb that's for sure. But are they nutritious? Not really. They fill up your tummy..but that's about it.

Protein is essential to building muscle and repairing it after rigorous exercise. Meat is important!

Sounds like you have found what works for you, but it ain't for me! I am a carnivore!

Betty

[soliwit]

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Dear SCP,
I think it wonderfull that you found ways to lose weight and stay healthy that work for you and so congratulations to that.
But this forum is about the Atkins way of life and I CHOSE to eat the Atkins way and no other way.
Believe me I looked into other ways and some almost worked for me, but just almost.
I don't come to this forum to discuss the Atkins WOE but to follow this WOE and get encouraged by other peoples succes or to encourage them.
If I want to know something about other ways of eating I go to the other part of the board that discusses those ways or I go to total other websites, BUT I don't need or want to know about those other ways cause I love THIS way.
Somehow I keep thinking that almost al posts you make are trying to get people away from Atkins or tweak Atkins, but maybe you don't understand the purpose of this board......we're here cause we want to, we're not here cause we want to learn a way out.

[cleochatra]

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Streetcorner-- check your pm's! I have a thought.

Jamie

[Streetcorner Philosopher]

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My post was not anti-atkins or anti-meat. I still eat meat every day. I love meat. And reading the Atkins book was truly an enlightenment. I think his method is right on. However I was just suggesting (for those in a stall) to concentrate your eating on fruits and vegetables as opposed to meat and pre-packaged low-carb items -- which tend to be void of nutrients. This is not an anti-Atkins philosophy. It's not promoting a different way of eating. I think it's simply fine-tuning the existing plan....and it was just a suggestion from my own experiences. S

[Finelly]

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The last time Streetcorner posted, I advised him that since he is not doing Atkins, he should post on another forum. Obviously, he has not taken the advice.

Streetcorner is well-known to be a non-Atkins person who periodically comes here and posts non-Atkins info and recommendations. I suggest we all ignore.

[Iapetus999]

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I did Atkins mostly "by the book", lost all the weight & more, and all my blood levels are complelely normal.

Most people agree that the bars etc are junk food...just lo carb junk food.

I think the fruits & vegetable thing could be something to try. Can you be more specific about what works for you? I've heard a lot of good stuff about carrot juice.
The problem with fruit juice...especially citrus (aside from the lack of fiber) is that it is really high on the GI scale. That means it causes blood sugar swings and cravings in some people.

I completely agree with most of what you've said tho...'cept I still like to eat my cheese

I would add that you need almost daily exercise for this to work. It helps the body get rid of toxins + all the other health benefits.

[Iapetus999]

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Holy crap! Coffee enemas??
Crude Liver Extract injections??
Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables???

Where do I sign up?