Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

[iyamamaschke]

Ok, Everyone I have been really slcking lately Went to OWL have carb creep going on SO Tomorrow morning I am starting Induction again for 14 days and I will be posting here every day so you all know how I am doing.

Please cheer me on it's been a while and I like all of you want results.

Sarah

[MissyMiss]

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We'll be here for you!!

[coolchange]

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Wow Sarah you have done so awesome. I hope I can be as successful as you. I'm on induction day 1 so we're all in this together!

[cleochatra]

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You'll do well, Sarah as you always do! You know the drill: Keep your journal updated with your menus and if you have questions, there are people in the "Menus" forum who are excellent with the dietary help.

You can do it!

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[BabyDreamer]

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Sarah,

You ROCK! If anyone can do another clean induction it is you girlie. I think you are superwoman!

Deb

Ok, Everyone I have been really slcking lately Went to OWL have carb creep going on SO Tomorrow morning I am starting Induction again for 14 days and I will be posting here every day so you all know how I am doing.

Please cheer me on it's been a while and I like all of you want results.

Sarah

[2big4mysize]

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I hate to be the spoil sport in all the pats on the back good for you, but you need do what Dr Atkins tells us to do and not take the easy way out.

it is very very easy to jump back to induction when you have a problem. it is hard work to do what Dr Atkins tells you to do and drop your carbs back down 5 net see what happens then if nothing drop them back again. We only use induction and then only a few days of it if we are out of ketosis. Learning to work the program. learning where your CCLL is is what will allow you to be a permanent sucess on Atkins not yoyoing with induction OWL induction OWl everytime you have a problem with the scales or the inches.

[sadie147]

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I'm with 2big on this and I can speak from experience. Induction didn't work for me in the summer when I tried to go back to it. I was better doing a modified owl, dropping my carbs back down.

It took patience, and alot of experimenting with foods, but eventually i found my balance.

Good luck!

[iyamamaschke]

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I know what you are Saying 2BIG and Sadie totally Understand But, I feel like I am going to go out of control and if what I need is to go on induction and get things going again. That's what I'm going to do. I have cravings from **** right now so I belive I am not in Ketosis. I was at my CCL but, I have let everything creep and my cravings are out of control. I want everything I shouldn't have soo bad it's not even fun. Oh by the way my ccl is 55 grams of carbs I was up over 70 some days.

So I need to do this for me to get back under control then I'll climb the rungs again the way I have done in the past.

You all have to understand that it's hard for me to tell you I need to do this but, I do and I know you will support me.

Thanks all soo much

Sarah

[2big4mysize]

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so do the couple of dayd of induction like Dr Atkins says to get your ketosis going and your cravings controlled and them go back to where you know you should be CCLL 55 and whatever rung you were at the last time you lost and go from their.

You will be the better Atkins low carber if you use induction as a tool to regain ketosis and not as the cure for all your cheating ways. Work with your foods and your CCLL and find what works fro you or you are going to repeat your mistake cause you didn't learn what foods caused you to lose control.

are you now saying you were doing it knowingly wrong for those months you have been telling use you were not losing and you were working hard?

[iyamamaschke]

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No I wasn't doing it Wrong By the Book But, I let things creep in. The days I had more like 70 grams I was running for 2-3 hours so I was still in contol. And I HAVE NEVER cheated just in the method of trying to figure where I should be I went too high that's all I never lied mislead anything. I did what I had to do had to skip rungs cause of allergies ETC. You know that 2 BIG. I was up to the Grain Rung added in some bread HOLLY TRIGGER sao I may have to skip that Rung altogether could be why I am stuck as well. It's a slow process I try to add by small incriments but somehting triggered me you know. I'm sure you ahve been there.

I am gunna do what I need to get myself back on track and so forth then I will be back to OWL like I ahve bee. AS soon as I feel like I have the cravings gone and such Gunna Move back up cause I like the choices.

I always Work hard and I have had stall USUALLY when I am going up the rungs like when I hit Dairy rung that one hit me hard stalled for seemend like forever. I ahve been good since then till I hit the Nut and Well Bread HMM. SO none of that. It seems my Body is SUPER sensitive and I ahve to go by what my body says so really I don't have as much choices as say someone who can safely not induce cravings through the other rungs. LUCKY DUCKS. I have been able ot have fruit though and that doesn't set me off which totally is aweosme as for most everything elese well. I am basically finding what my body can handle that's what you ahve always told Me 2BIG. No 2 people are the same so we all can't follow the same path I have to be more careful then say someone who is not soo sensitive. Make sence.

I upped my carbs with Veggies and Fruit not antyhign elese. The days I went way up I had an Apple LOL. That was my 70- carb days LOL. SO I hope this makes you understands me what I am saying still going hard working hard running hard. Working my Atkins the way I need to for my Body.

Sarah

[iyamamaschke]

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This is What I ahve been doing 2 Big as Per One of your POSTS on the OWL forum so I am doing it accordingly I ahve just had to do it like this for me cause of my allergies and you sid it was ok to do it like this. That's what I was trying to say maybe it got lost intranslation but, this is wat I was trying to say!!!!

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize
You never have to do anything on Atkins. You should do a lot of the recommended stuff in the order it is recommended to do as that will give you the best chance for overall success. If you had called the Atkins Med center folks back when he was still alive they would have told you after your 14 days were up if you wanted to stay under 20 net carbs and do induction you could add more of those induction veggies to your foods.
There was no magic in those under 20 net carbs limits. Dr Atkins used to have a quote in about it saying he picked 15-20 net carbs because 95% of us who picked his plan would lose weight on that amount in 14 days. Seeing that lose we would be encouraged to stick with our plan. SOunded good to me as I was a tester of his plan during my induction as were many of us.
You can do what we called a modified OWLand keep you carbs as low as you are comfortable with and climb the ladder or you can just add back a few rungs and keep your carbs low until you are ready to move to full OWL. OWl is about learning what foods effect your metabolism and craving controls in what ways. Some folks can't handle whole food groups while others can't handle certain foods in those food groups. Some just don't like the food groups and skip it entirely.
I had a very long talk with the Atkins folks before I moved to OWL in June 2002 back when Dr Atkins was still alive. they said you could turn your ladder into more like a net and go sideways on a rung adding more of that food group if your weight loss and craving control could handle it, you could skip whole rungs if you didn't like the food or couldn't handle it at this point in your program and come back and retry it later on. You could sub a lower rung for a higher rung you didn't like or couldn't handle too.
Like you can go 1,1,1,2,3,4,1,6,7,etc or 1,1,1,1,2,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,6,6, etc or even 1,2,3,4,1,6,7,8,9, whatever you likw and your body can handle. They strongly cautioned against adding a higher level rung and then jumping back down the ladder like 1,9,2,3,4, etc bwcause the higher rungs werre higher GI and could effect your craving controls and sabatage your efforts.

if you discover your CCLL is 30 and you want the higher rung foods you can sub them out too for some of your lower rung foods already in your WOE like remove a few carbs of cheese or nuts or veggies to get to the next level the berries and so on. But it will depend on your individual metabolism as to what you can handle and whay you can't.
I ended up with adding rungs 1 and 3 and staying under 20 net carbs for the first 100 pounds and then climbed cause i thought wanted to add low carb breads to my WOE. Turned out when I could have them i didn't want them as much.

Pick and chose and enjoy your foods if your weight loss or craving control is effected dump the food group and try a different one. You do not want to have to lose the weight twice so you don't want to wait for GOAL to find out the info.

Happy OWLing to you

[ladyinred]

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I'm with you sweetie! There's a few of us trying to get ourselves back on track this week so you are not alone, for sure. You've done such a great job so far. I won't tell you whether you should do it this way or that way, because I'm certainly not an expert. But you know your own self and I know you will succeed and get back on track whatever you decide.

[Reveal]

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Sarah, you're absolutely right and I wish you luck getting your cravings back under control. I too have worked the OWL rungs and found that when I got to grains and bread that *really* set my cravings off, and I had to back down from that. The problem is, I was so used to being in OWL that I had to back down to induction for a few days "back to basics" to sort of retrain myself. You're great at listening to your body, do what's right for you and if it works, all the better for you. I have faith in your ability to do what's right for you. Good luck!

[iyamamaschke]

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Thank you that's all I am doing right now listening to my Body going back for a bit looking at myself again and my food and portions everything I am doing this so I don't fall off and so I don't lose it and lose all that I ahve gained I need to do this for me. To get in control Before I DO CHEAT. 1 year cheat free I don't wanna lose it and be back where I started so I gotta get control of myself again and that's why I am doing this. It's short term then I'm back to where I was.

Sarah

[not2late]

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I'm going to give you the same advice I give on the OWL board. If you are out of ketosis (check either with the sticks or by the physical signs of ketosis), drop to Induction level carbs for a few days until you get back into ketosis. Once you are in ketosis, go back to the carb level you were previously losing. If you are still in ketosis, then go back to the carb level you were previously losing and drop any food(s) you think contributed to your blood sugar instability symptom (the cravings).

The folks who exercise regularly or exercise regularly with intensity can have a higher than usual CCLL. From my own experience, my CCLL has changed (increased) because my level of exercise when I first began OWL and found my CCLL was a little lower than my current level of exercise.

This is why OWL and Pre-Maintenance are important phases----you learn about your body and you learn to "eat in the real world". On days I exercise less, I eat about 10-15 net carbs lower than my CCLL and I don't eat as many total calories. On days I exercise more, I eat at my CCLL. Induction is a very 'artificial' in the sense that you really don't learn about your body because it's a one-size-fits-all poncho.