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  • #31
    Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

    OK here is my reasoning for adding my carbs on High exercise days this Is what has been happening with me. I was staying at 55 grams sometimes less I would do my long run went well then After I would feel so sick. SO by adding an apple I cured that after run sick feeling I'm sorry if that is screwing with everything but, I couldn't feel sick. I didn't carb load I added 1 apple to my regime and I honestly have never abused INDUCTION. I thought that actually Modified OWL was induction I still ahve variety but drop the carbs, I screwed up I thought this was called induction and I am sorry. I am not PERFECT I am the first to admit this. Nobody is Perfect Atkins is a challenge I won't tell you different I work the paln I exercise I go through the rungs why is is ok for someone to say ok I'm goint to BOOTCAMP and do the 14 day induction no matter where they are in the paln but, it's not ok for me to say OK, I am doing my own Bootcamp getting ahold of myself and moving forward seems like a lot of misrepresentation.

    I would have joined Bootcamp not got all this crap and been Happy about the whole thing but, bootcamp started so here I am sitting wanting to get things ok and I am getting ragged on. If this is the case with the every thing on here THERE should NOT be a BOOTCAMP it goes against what you are telling me I am right about this. But, I love the thought of the bootcamp and getting a handle on things being strict I like the idea I think it does a lot of things for those who need it so I support the IDEA of it wholeheartedly.

    Sorry if I am ranting but, I just don't get it. My training for my Marathon is going excellent I ahve a drop down week of less milage and then it's back up to where I was before this is a training principle many follow to get the milage up. Give the body a break naturally it will go the distance. It doesn't help that I have been having Hormonal issues, my TOM is comming, I forgot to get my B12 it's 4 days late that's some of the reason I ahve been feeling this way.

    I just had to say my piece we all have rough spots and stuff and I am doing what I need to do and Just so you know I ran today yes I did even know my milage has dropped I have missed 1 day of exercise this week. I am lifting weights more, Oh and my trainer well he is my wellness coach has actually told me to add more weight training so I am trying to do that, and trying to find a balnce in my every day things.

    Thanks you All again for all your support and advice

    Sarah
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    Total weight lost 126 LBS
    (HW 302) SW 285
    200lbs 09-03-03
    197lbs 09-03-09
    194lbs 09-04-16
    191lbs 09-04-19
    189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
    176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

    I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

    BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
    Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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    • #32
      Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

      doing a modified OWL under 20 net carbs but other foods isn't a fix for where she was either, If you are goping to use induction for an out of ketosis out of control Atkins then you need to be eating the induction carb foods because with their low AGR and blood sugar impact they will give you back the control doing modified OWL with say 15 net carbs of cherries won't which is what a modified OWLer can do.
      by the book atkinseer

      started 6/1/02 at 313
      goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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      • #33
        Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

        I think you are superwoman!
        AND I KNOW SHE IS!!

        Sarah, you can do it!

        Betty
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        • #34
          Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

          Oh I am in Ketosis I just Checked so modified OWL will be perfect I am sure this is a HORMONAL issue with me!!!!!

          Sarah
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          Total weight lost 126 LBS
          (HW 302) SW 285
          200lbs 09-03-03
          197lbs 09-03-09
          194lbs 09-04-16
          191lbs 09-04-19
          189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
          176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

          I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

          BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
          Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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          • #35
            Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

            Thanks Betty, You are a sweety!!! I do what I do I am what I am and I am riding this Horse all the way you can count on that. I ahve been through way too much stuff to screw it up and throw it in learned too much come too far this is NOT a DIET this is a WOL for me!!

            Sarah
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            Total weight lost 126 LBS
            (HW 302) SW 285
            200lbs 09-03-03
            197lbs 09-03-09
            194lbs 09-04-16
            191lbs 09-04-19
            189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
            176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

            I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

            BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
            Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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            • #36
              Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

              Sarah,

              You know your own body better than anyone else. I am sure you will find your right place with the carbs and get back to where you are the one woman dynamo we all know you are! You ROCK and you will figure it out.

              Deb
              Deb
              HW311/CW284/BGW199/Ultimate Goal 165
              Mini-goal: Lose 1 "Buster" (270)--

              Started Over on 10/16/2006


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              • #37
                Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!


                why is is ok for someone to say ok I'm goint to BOOTCAMP and do the 14 day induction no matter where they are in the paln but, it's not ok for me to say OK, I am doing my own Bootcamp getting ahold of myself and moving forward seems like a lot of misrepresentation.
                there are many of us here who believe that it is wrong to move an OWler back to induction for bootcamp and it should only be open for induction eating folk. Some of that had to do with the limited space and the fact that somebody had applied in induction and a space had finally opened up when they were in OWL and the boot camp commamders didn't tell them soory you have moved to OWl you can't come now.

                My training for my Marathon is going excellent I ahve a drop down week of less milage and then it's back up to where I was before this is a training principle many follow to get the milage up
                yes and Atkins OWl correction of blood sugar issues is followed and is very successful WOE principle that many Atkineers follow. that is the anology I'm making Sarah you do as those marathon trainers tell you to do even though you don't like it cause you beleive in the system they are using to train you for marathon runnig. just a few weeks ago you were posting about how much you didn't like the fact your trainers had made you cut back your lifting remember? And I was your post about how much you missed your miles just this week.
                Dr Atkins has given you a proven system for regaining control and making blood sugar imbalance correections so you can complete your training for Atkins WOE marathon.

                The apple alone after working out moved you into a blood sugar surge and drop. What happened if you ate an atkins acceptable for your plan snack like an apple with a fat if you were up to other fruit rung and had the carbs in your CCLL? Dr Atkins warned us in Chapter 14 about having a fat with our new carbs to stabilize blood sugar.

                drastically changing your eating plan before your big miles will effect your sunday run too. Sarah.
                by the book atkinseer

                started 6/1/02 at 313
                goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                • #38
                  Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                  if you are in ketosis why are you dropping back to modified OWL? you are handleing the carbs just not some food that is givng you cravings or as you just said it is hormonal and you just hang on and ride it out cause unfortunately Dr Atkins was a boy and didn't write us a book about that.
                  by the book atkinseer

                  started 6/1/02 at 313
                  goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                  • #39
                    Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                    I honestly thought I was out of Ketosius so that's why I was doing that but, Im not so I am just gunna stay at about 30 carbs and get ahold of my cravings for tom and then Move up.

                    Thanks for the the responces. Most of my training is done by me I make most of my plan. I have upped my weight training again though against what the Doc said to I am lifting right now this week so far 4 times SO I am pretty happy and I feel good I hope that next week I can keep it up.


                    Sarah
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                    Total weight lost 126 LBS
                    (HW 302) SW 285
                    200lbs 09-03-03
                    197lbs 09-03-09
                    194lbs 09-04-16
                    191lbs 09-04-19
                    189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
                    176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

                    I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

                    BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
                    Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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                    • #40
                      Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                      Sarah did you doc advice against the lifting because of your anemia? if so please listen tohim cause anemia can cause heart attacks?

                      Now that you know you are not out of ketosis why not stay closer to your CCLL after all you lost 6 pounds in the last month eating over your CCLL on days.
                      by the book atkinseer

                      started 6/1/02 at 313
                      goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                      • #41
                        Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                        That's true I am going to stay a littlew lower cause this week I am doing less and I feel like my cravings are rampid staying lower is helping so far today I ahve eaten 15 carbs and I feel a lot better.

                        Thanks soo very much, oh it's not cause of my anemia he said he didn't want me to bulf any more cause it would cause excess weight for my running which I think is bull, so I am back at it. He said that, with my running building more muscle would make it harder for me to run long distance but, it hasn't.

                        My anemia is monitored very closely I go in every month for testing I missed this month by 4 days for my Shot and I can tell. My levels are good though my test was done a week ago I ahve an ongoing paperwork LOL.

                        So it's all right I am where I should be just struggling a bit
                        sigpic
                        Total weight lost 126 LBS
                        (HW 302) SW 285
                        200lbs 09-03-03
                        197lbs 09-03-09
                        194lbs 09-04-16
                        191lbs 09-04-19
                        189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
                        176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

                        I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

                        BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
                        Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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                        • #42
                          Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                          ask your trainer if cutting back your miles was supposed to increase your energy reserves for your didtance miles coming up this weekend too cause it it is then you will be off in that with the cutting.

                          Glad you are back in ketosis and blood sugar control. Good for your doc getting your anemia fixed so fast

                          now examine your food journals carefully and watch for what is triggering your cravings and it can be a legal food too. Megs is a brand of cheese mine is celery and splendam other it is macadamia nuts so it doesn't have to be a not allowed food to cause them. once you find them then you know what to avoid. oh as with TOM you might get cravings from foods that don't effect you in other parts of your cycle.
                          by the book atkinseer

                          started 6/1/02 at 313
                          goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                          • #43
                            Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                            Oh I know what it was it was Bread BAD BAD. I Just started the grain run and I can't go there right now I am adding extra veggies instead cause bread is bad and especially with TOM TRIGGER. Flax is a trigger for me and this bread has flax so I may try some without flax but for now I'm not going there

                            Oh and ya the cutting is supposed to boost energy reserves from what I understand I do this every 4 weeks it's usually easy but because of everything this one was really hard on me.

                            Sarah
                            sigpic
                            Total weight lost 126 LBS
                            (HW 302) SW 285
                            200lbs 09-03-03
                            197lbs 09-03-09
                            194lbs 09-04-16
                            191lbs 09-04-19
                            189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
                            176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

                            I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

                            BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
                            Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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                            • #44
                              Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                              so if you know it was "bread", and you know it is hormones, and you know it is missing your B12 shot, and you are still in ketosis dispite all that why are you still changing your Atkins carb level?
                              by the book atkinseer

                              started 6/1/02 at 313
                              goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                              • #45
                                Re: Starting Induction Tomorrow after OWL!!

                                Cause of my cravings and I also didn't know I was in ketosis which actually suprised me It's only for like 2 days cause I need this during TOM to keep my levels I guess normal. Make sence if not Just Knock me oevr the head LOL. I am really not even making sence to myself today it's only gunna be for a few days now I know I am in ketosis the stick was just pink so I was probably on the verge of going over LOL ad the bread set off cravings a way I deal with that is to drop my carbs down for say a day and that usually fixes it except in instances of Hormones when I have to do this for a few extra. No worries I will be where I was in a day or so K.And I am skipping the Grains rung for now till I am at goal ROFL. Maybe I'll never be able to handle bread but, till then I am not going there for a while.

                                Sarah
                                sigpic
                                Total weight lost 126 LBS
                                (HW 302) SW 285
                                200lbs 09-03-03
                                197lbs 09-03-09
                                194lbs 09-04-16
                                191lbs 09-04-19
                                189lbs 09-05-04 (only 4 lbs to go to 1st goal WHOOT)
                                176lbs 09-08-27 (11 lbs to 165)

                                I CAN'T do It for ANYONE but MYSELF!

                                BELIEVEinYOURSELFandANYTHINGisPOSSIBLE
                                Link to PHOTOS: iyamamaschke.shutterfly.com

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