Are these four items ok for Atkins?

[Castoridae]

I just bought the following, please tell me if these are ok products for me:

e.d.Smith No sugar Added stawberry spread, sweetened with sucraloe and fruitjuice

Swiss Chalet dipping sauce

Russell Stoer No Sugar Added gummi bears, sweetened with malitol and sucralose

Sorbee Peppermint patties, sweetened with malitol and Splenda

[not2late]

Re: Are these four items ok for Atkins?

I just bought the following, please tell me if these are ok products for me:

e.d.Smith No sugar Added stawberry spread, sweetened with sucraloe and fruitjuice

Swiss Chalet dipping sauce

Russell Stoer No Sugar Added gummi bears, sweetened with malitol and sucralose

Sorbee Peppermint patties, sweetened with malitol and Splenda

Depends on your phase of Atkins...

For example, the strawberry spread would be okay during the Berry Rung of the OWL Phase.

I don't know what's in the dipping sauce, so I can't comment on that.

As for the sugar alcohols....They have different effects on people: Some people stall whenever they use them. Others don't. Some people get diarrhea and/or stomach cramps. Some people don't.

[ladyinred]

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Hi Castor. Are you still on induction or have you moved on? If you are on induction you really should avoid all sweets, even artificially sweetened things. You want to kill your sweet tooth. If you are really craving sweets you should eat something high in fat like cheese, tuna with mayo, devilled eggs or else have a pickle. Once you've gone the full 2 weeks of induction without any sweets at all, you won't be craving them anymore.

Aside from that, the products you are describing are devoid of any nutrients. Feed your body something that's good for it and it will be very happy.

[SugarFreeSheila]

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My husband dubs Sorbee "Sorb-poot."

But it's been a long time since I had my favorite thing they make, and I see it is now made with Splenda and maltitol does not wreck my system the way some other sugar alcohols do. Maybe I'll give this another shot sometime!

[Castoridae]

Re: Are these four items ok for Atkins?

The Swiss Chalet dipping sauce contians: cornstarch, salt tomatopowder, chicken fat, dextrose. It is a powder that you add water to. The breakdown is: carbs/glucides: 3 g 1% and that's it.

[MotherOfGizmo]

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The Swiss Chalet dipping sauce contians: cornstarch, salt tomatopowder, chicken fat, dextrose. It is a powder that you add water to. The breakdown is: carbs/glucides: 3 g 1% and that's it.

Cornstarch is a no no
Destrose is SUGAR! so of course its also a no no


The easiest way to determine if something is ok or not is to check the ingredients, if all of them aren't listed in the acceptable foods list in DANDR then its very easy to determine that the food is not acceptable!

[Castoridae]

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Thank you Mother2!! I almost really goofed. I'll keep that nasty word in mind when I'm hunting for food. cheers, C

[Castoridae]

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Sorry! I meant Mother of!!

[ttdriver]

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NO NO NO NO.

The strawberry stuff is for LATER ... the maltitol is reserved for folk who enjoy gastric distress .. Cornstarch is never okay.

Betty

[Castoridae]

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Ok, so the Swiss Chalet is definitely out. As for the malitol, I just found that out by a terrible mistake. The strawberry, stuff, etc. is for later. I was actually looking for pancake syrup by Sobee?? or is it Sorbee?, Anyway, I didn't find it, but ran across sthese items, that I thought could be useful later on down the road.

[Moochiecat]

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Castoridae, have you read Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, version 2002 (DANDR for short)? That's the book we follow on this website.
It's laid out quite clearly what a person can eat and it's a definite must-read for all of us.

Please don't stop asking questions...we're here to help you with answers...but it's very important that you know the rules and become familiar with the the acceptable foods so you can know at a glance whether something is allowed or not, ok?

[Chris]

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Okay, here comes the post from the guy they used to call "The Preacher" because I wanted to damn all sugar alcohols to the fires of ****!

The reason that maltitol causes few gastric problems is because it has a glycemic index of 52 (not much left for the critters in the gut by the time it gets there). A baked potato has a glycemic index of only 60! Since gastric index is based on pure glucose having 100, you can see that maltitol is already half way there. If anyone tells you that you don't have to count those carbs, they're just fooling themselves. The only advantage that sugar alcohols have is that they don't tend to cause as much of a blood sugar spike as real sugars -- which makes them great for diabetics who don't have a weight problem, but useless for us.

Even the low glycemic ones, like lactitol, which has an index of 7, are really worthless. First of all, they cause the most gastric upset. But, they still have to be counted. Why? Well, spinach, for example, has a glycemic index of near zero, but nowhere are we told that we don't have to count the carbs in spinach. Why should the sugar alcohols be any different?!!

Avoid anything containing surgar alcohols like the plague!

[Castoridae]

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First, Hi Moochi, I can't locate my 2002 copy and didn't really need to refer to it until recently. This isn't my first time on Atkins. The problem, was that there were none of those Atkins products around when I first did induction somany years ago. I know I can't have any sugars. What started to confuse me was the market glut of sugar-free products including those manufactured by Atkins. That's what started this whole new quandary for me. I'm not planning to use them for the remainder of induction - I'm not sure how long I'll stay on Induction as Friday I could officially go off, but I haven't really decided yet. The products I was buying were for the later stages of the diet. I thought if I had these to rely on, it would make those stages easier. The one thing I hate about induciton (and probably most of the diet) is the amount of cooking one has to do. Now I absolutely know why - processed food is bad. But our culture has so ingrained us in the fast food; don't cook lifestyle, that having to prepare everything again is really a pain in the butt. Its not a reason to go off this wol, but grabbing quick food is really easier.
Cheers, & thx

[Chris]

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Castor, you're not the first one to be confused when we say that certain products, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY MANUFACTURED BY THE ATKINS COMPANY, are illegal. In his earlier books, Dr. A forbid the use of all sugar alcohols. In the 2002 edition, he says that products containing them are allowable in limited quantities because they don't cause blood sugar spikes. Well, it doesn't take much reasoning to figure out that that spinach, or brocolli, or cauliflower don't cause sugar spikes, either, but we DO have to count the carbs in them. Sadly, it appears that the good doctor was giving in to the pressures of the Atkins Corporation to sell their products. About the only thing of theirs that I use are, on a rare occasion the bake mix and the shakes. The bake mix simplifies some things for me, and I use the rare shake when traveling, or in some other situation where I can't have a proper meal prepared with whole foods. (The shakes do not contain sugar alcohols.)

[Castoridae]

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Hi Chris, Thanks for the info; your first post was too scientific for me to follow. While I understand the carb counting thing, I don't understand how the counts originate. For example, if you take the bake mix that you mentioned, the carb amount is 8g. How does this morph into a count of 3gs for those doing Atkins??