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    I got my newsletter from Beachbody, and I do have to say that as much as I love their products, I wonder about their research at times. Here is a clip of the article I received giving an overview of all the new popular diets:

    The Other Way Park Avenue Women Get Thin
    By Monica Ciociola



    If you've been to the bookstore lately, you may have been tempted by the latest crop of hot, new diet books. Sonoma is the new South Beach, rice is the new low-carb, and Park Avenue princesses are the new French women. These authors, like Dr. Atkins before them, probably believe their diets provide the key to real, long-term weight loss. Yet some ideas sound downright gimmicky, like eating nothing but lemon flavors all day long (?!) or eating every other day (I don't know about you, but I like to eat every day). See for yourself . . .
    • Rice Diet Solution. This diet focuses on foods like rice that are low in fat and sodium but high in calories and fiber. Salt is an appetite stimulant, so when you reduce salt intake, you lose water weight and are less inclined to overeat. The Rice Diet also limits saturated fats and instead relies on carbohydrates (fruits, vegetables, grains, and beans) as the main source of nutrition. The fiber cleanses your system and satisfies you so you feel full quickly. Hmmm, I wonder how much fiber is in my Atkins book.
    Fitness Advisor Steve Edward's Take: I'm instantly suspicious of any diet claiming that one food is the answer.
    • Sonoma Diet. Sonoma cuisine, with its diverse flavors and emphasis on local fare, is another spin on the Mediterranean diet: enjoy your food without guilt and select the highest quality, freshest, and most wholesome foods, including fruits and vegetables, whole grains, nuts, olive oil, lean meats, and wine. Wine and nuts and olive oil, oh my! This is my kind of diet.
    Steve's Take: I'm not saying it's bad necessarily, but basing a diet on geography seems like a strange trend. I mean, prisoners are fit. Are we about to see The Prison Diet?
    • QOD Diet. Eating QOD means eating mostly every other day so you lose weight gradually without pushing your body into starvation mode. During your ON days, you can pretty much eat what you want (as long as you don't binge) so you don't need to feel deprived. During your OFF days, you need to limit food intake to 300–400 calories, but your mineral intake (sodium, potassium, and calcium) should be kept constant. While periodic fasting is very Zen, I'm not sure I've reached that height of enlightenment.
    Steve's Take: This is very similar to the often recommended zig-zag diet, which is helpful for keeping your metabolism in line while you're trying to alter your caloric intake. It works as a phase, but is probably not the best lifestyle.
    • Flavor Point. The Flavor Point diet is based on the premise that flavor variety stimulates your appetite while flavor repetition pacifies it. You can eat a variety of flavors over time, but eating too many flavors at any one time puts your brain's appetite center into overdrive. So you need to organize your flavors into days; for instance, lemon day will kick-off with lemon-poppy seed muffins for breakfast, Lemon Tabbouleh Salad for lunch, lemon-flavored tilapia for dinner, and lemon sorbet for dinner. I love the fact that I can eat muffins and dessert, but what do I do after lemon day and how do I make tilapia anyway?
    Steve's Take: I guess if you throw enough ideas out there, something will work for almost anyone. I'm quite certain this is not the key to our obesity epidemic.
    • the Rich Get Thin. In this book, Jana Klauer, a Park Avenue diet doctor, shares the secrets of her fabulously wealthy and skinny clientele. The women exercise daily and consume high-quality protein, calcium, and complex carbs, but stay away from all processed foods. It's quality over quantity. And of course, some nip and tuck and Fifth Avenue fashion helps, too.
    Steve's Take: The rich get thin because they can afford the best foods, the best trainers, and the best doctors. And if you buy this book, they'll get even richer, but it's highly unlikely you'll get any thinner. You'll probably just get depressed.
    • Supermarket Diet. This book from Good Housekeeping tries to provide weight loss solutions for real people by making the diet plan as easy as going to your local supermarket and picking up ordinary fresh and packaged foods and avoiding fast food. You'll learn how to read food labels to eat healthy, shop for packaged foods that won't sabotage a diet, and stick to a healthy, balanced menu. So more supermarket, less Super Size Me.
    Steve's Take: You mean, if I eat less fast food I'll be more healthy? Shocking!

    The bottom line is that you don't need a special, new diet for long-term success. Just eat more natural foods, get more exercise, and you'll feel better, lose weight, and live longer. That's the Beachbody way, and you can experience it online at www.MyBeachbody.com, or simply refer to the diet guides that came with your fitness program.



    OK - Here's my bone to pick:

    Rice Diet Solution. This diet focuses on foods like rice that are low in fat and sodium but high in calories and fiber. Salt is an appetite stimulant, so when you reduce salt intake, you lose water weight and are less inclined to overeat. The Rice Diet also limits saturated fats and instead relies on carbohydrates (fruits, vegetables, grains, and beans) as the main source of nutrition. The fiber cleanses your system and satisfies you so you feel full quickly. Hmmm, I wonder how much fiber is in my Atkins book.


    My question? Have they ever looked at the fiber content in rice? Or it's nutritional value? Like the person who wrote this even READ his Atkins book

    Funny, the diet they bash the most - How The Rich Get Thin - is what the Atkins diet essentially is. I noticed that it was bashed because it was too expensive, not because it was unhealthy. Oh , the ignorance
    27 F 5' 7"
    Before baby: HW:230/195 after 6 months on Atkins
    After baby and current restart: 210/207/120

    I'm too sexy.....for this bod; WAY too sexy for this bod

    Phase: Restarting a clean Induction as of 7/29/2007.

    Minigoals:
    To get thru my first week clean: (8/05/2007) Done! Yay! and 3lbs down :/ but at least it's a loss.
    To get thru my second week clean: (8/12/2007)
    199lbs:
    189lbs:
    179lbs:
    169lbs:
    159lbs:
    149lbs:
    139lbs:
    129lbs:
    Goal!:

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    Re: More Atkins Bashing....

    LOL too bad they didn't review Atkins so he could see how much fiber is in his book unles he was thinking about eatting it as his new diet.

    you can write to them andvisit their forums to tell them about Atkins if you want.
    by the book atkinseer

    started 6/1/02 at 313
    goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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    • #3
      Re: More Atkins Bashing....

      Are they talking about brown rice or wild rice maybe? I'd have to go look up the nutritional value, but it would seem that maybe they are at least a little better for you?


      5'4"
      45 yrs (F) a.k.a. "Butterbean"
      Start date 5/18/2003
      197/163.5/130

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      • #4
        Re: More Atkins Bashing....

        Maybe, but not really a whole lot of difference, here's a chart comparing brown/white rice

        http://www.aeroplanerice.com/nutri02.html


        5'4"
        45 yrs (F) a.k.a. "Butterbean"
        Start date 5/18/2003
        197/163.5/130

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        • #5
          Re: More Atkins Bashing....

          I originally thought that brown or wild rice would be better but it is much like most flours, not much in the nutrient department. Yeah - it will keep you alive during times of famine, but it doesn't belong at the base of the food pyramid.

          2big - it's a great idea to pipe up and write something to them. It would be cool if a whole bunch of us spouted off . Probably would get a bit of attention.
          27 F 5' 7"
          Before baby: HW:230/195 after 6 months on Atkins
          After baby and current restart: 210/207/120

          I'm too sexy.....for this bod; WAY too sexy for this bod

          Phase: Restarting a clean Induction as of 7/29/2007.

          Minigoals:
          To get thru my first week clean: (8/05/2007) Done! Yay! and 3lbs down :/ but at least it's a loss.
          To get thru my second week clean: (8/12/2007)
          199lbs:
          189lbs:
          179lbs:
          169lbs:
          159lbs:
          149lbs:
          139lbs:
          129lbs:
          Goal!:

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          • #6
            Re: More Atkins Bashing....

            Thanks for that link MoG. I'm keeping it. There isn't much difference in the carb count of white rice and brown, but it looks much better for you in every other way. And did you notice how much fiber?

            But a rice diet? No thanks!
            53/female/241lbs.




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            • #7
              Re: More Atkins Bashing....

              I agree, talk about a diet you could get bored on.
              27 F 5' 7"
              Before baby: HW:230/195 after 6 months on Atkins
              After baby and current restart: 210/207/120

              I'm too sexy.....for this bod; WAY too sexy for this bod

              Phase: Restarting a clean Induction as of 7/29/2007.

              Minigoals:
              To get thru my first week clean: (8/05/2007) Done! Yay! and 3lbs down :/ but at least it's a loss.
              To get thru my second week clean: (8/12/2007)
              199lbs:
              189lbs:
              179lbs:
              169lbs:
              159lbs:
              149lbs:
              139lbs:
              129lbs:
              Goal!:

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              • #8
                Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                Have you done a search on the BB boards on Atkins yet? Oyyy. Talk about an eyeful. The fitness advisors at times seem to have a very slight clue, but for the most part they subscribe to the "my cousin's step sister's best friend's boyfriend's uncle's mechanic said.." information system.

                The BB boards are fantastic for learning more about the BB programs and finding people who are trudging through the same programs you are - but in the Atkins department? I've learned to just skip right over the threads - it's better for my blood pressure

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                • #9
                  Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                  Originally posted by slimndown
                  These authors, like Dr. Atkins before them...
                  GRRRRRRRR!!!! How dare they so casually lump the good Doctor in with the rubbish pile!

                  Dr. A stands alone. No one can touch him.

                  I agree that clearly the idiot who wrote this article is ignorant and very poorly-read.
                  200/188/165 5'8.5"
                  Re-inducted 1/1/06
                  Big Goal: Run in the 5K Roots & Wings race July '06.






                  We are buying our first house! We close Apr. 28! Yay for us!

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                  • #10
                    Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                    Originally posted by SusanQsan
                    GRRRRRRRR!!!! How dare they so casually lump the good Doctor in with the rubbish pile!

                    Dr. A stands alone. No one can touch him.

                    I agree that clearly the idiot who wrote this article is ignorant and very poorly-read.
                    Back away from the punch bowl...

                    (Picture was taken at 190 lbs in August.)
                    SW /CW /GW Start Date: 12/26/2005
                    210/187/180s
                    MALE!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                      The poorly read is the main issue. I went to a doctor (supposed to be professional person, right?) when I planned to start. I wanted a health check. He had the hide to say he would not treat me if I was going to follow some fad diet. I asked him had he read the book. No - but he considered he knew all about it! The arrogance was just gob-smacking. So I told him I wasn't paying for his unprofessional point of view and walked out. He's never chased me for the money, either. Maybe his jaw is stuck to his desk. I sincerely hope so.

                      There's a lot of ignorance out there, and it's not going to get less any time soon.

                      We must lead by example!!
                      Odille

                      Start 10 Sep 05
                      F, 170cm (5'7"); 53
                      ----------------------------
                      I lost 11kg or 25.4lbs in 14 days on Induction!
                      131 kg (HW/est SW)/ 104.3 (CW)/ 63 (GW)
                      288.5 lbs / 223.5 / 138 (1kg = 2.202 lbs)
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                      • #12
                        Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                        Originally posted by Super Duper Matt
                        Back away from the punch bowl...
                        I don't drink punch. It's not on the list.
                        200/188/165 5'8.5"
                        Re-inducted 1/1/06
                        Big Goal: Run in the 5K Roots & Wings race July '06.






                        We are buying our first house! We close Apr. 28! Yay for us!

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                        • #13
                          Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                          I wonder why the other diets out there don't get as much criticism and attention.

                          Let's review the things I've tried:

                          Weight Watchers - hungry all the time
                          Starvation diet - um yeah, hungry all the time
                          Low fat diet - oh wow, a hungry trend
                          Low calorie diet - HUNGRY ALL THE TIME
                          Cottage cheese and tomatoes diet - hungry
                          Some strange diet the doctor gave to my obese friend that I tried with her - you guessed it, hungry all the time.

                          For the first time in my life, i'm only hungry when I should be, and easily satisfied the rest of the time with very little food now.

                          I'd take that over hungry no matter what they said.

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                          • #14
                            Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                            Originally posted by Jasmain
                            I wonder why the other diets out there don't get as much criticism and attention.......

                            .....For the first time in my life, i'm only hungry when I should be, and easily satisfied the rest of the time with very little food now.

                            I'd take that over hungry no matter what they said.
                            Good point. I feel such a sense of relief with the Atkins WOE - finally I am slimming down , but am not obsessing over food and am not feeling the physical pain of hunger. It makes no sense why Atkins gets slammed so much.
                            200/188/165 5'8.5"
                            Re-inducted 1/1/06
                            Big Goal: Run in the 5K Roots & Wings race July '06.






                            We are buying our first house! We close Apr. 28! Yay for us!

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                            • #15
                              Re: More Atkins Bashing....

                              I got that newletter too Slimn. I was not very happy about that either. I was upset at first, but then I remembered how I used to think about Atkins, before I read the book. It's a shame though, that these people who are supposed to be "knowledgeable" or at least pass themselves off as such, can print such things. OH well. Like Brook, I love the BB products and use the site only for that info.
                              BARB

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                              while you're busy making other plans!
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