Diet Rite Cola Has Literally Zero Carbs!!

[dotsamantha]

Re: Diet Rite Cola Has Literally Zero Carbs!!

I'm going to repost my response every time i see this thread

Concerns come with people who have cravings triggered by sweet things. If you crave sweet, then sweet is sweet. It starts a chain reaction and then you want more sweet. No matter how many carbs, calories, caffeine, etc, your brain senses sweet, and in some people this is bad.

Also

carbonated water, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors, potassium benzoate (preservative), potassium citrate, sucralose (Splenda brand, a non-nutritive sweetener), acesulfame potassium (Sunett Brand, a non-nutritive sweetener), caramel color, red 40, blue 1
Nutrition facts: Calories 0; Total fat 0g; sodium 0mg; total carb 0g; protein 0g

Those are the ingredients and nutrition facts for a diet rite kiwi.
Many people who've found Atkins to be the Way and the Word are advocates for natural also.

Potassium Benzoate: "It is approved for use in most countries including Canada, the U.S., and the EU. In the EU, it is not recommended for consumption by children"

Potassium Citrate: "is chiefly employed as a non-irritating diuretic"

acesulfame potassium: "calorie free artificial sweetener"

This is why you're going to find resistance. I'm glad you found something you enjoy, but there are a lot of people here who have found that artificial color, flavor and so on is detrimental to their health.

[not2late]

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For the life of me, I do not understand why people are so hesitant to drink Diet Drink and still, in light of this information, talk about counting it as One Sugar Substitute allotment at day. The reason I posted this information about Diet Rite, is so you all realize, they use the liquid form of Splenda which is Sucralose. Sucralose has no - ZERO carbs, and not only that, you would have to drink about 40 cans to get teh equivilant of 1 measurable carb. I realize it is excess that got us all into trouble in the first place and I am not advocating going out and polishing off a case of Diet Rite a day. I am simply stating a fact about the production of this soda, and how it relates to total carb intake. Diet Rite has zero carbs because of the aforementioned reasons. The Aktin's Diet is a very restrictive diet. Enjoy the cola, and quit worrying about the carb content of THIS PARTICULAR SODA - Diet Rite.

It doesn't matter if it had -100 carbs. Sweeteners are limited on Atkins. In one of Dr. Atkins other books, he wrote he wasn't too crazy about artificial sweeteners but allows the 3 sweetener limit so we can wean ourselves off the sugar addictions. His reason is similar to what you said endulging on sweets and carby items helped to get us fat in the first place. Moreover, Dr. Atkins doesn't mention this in the book, but you might want to read this sticky thread in the 14 Day Induction forum: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ead.php?t=5922

No one is saying that you cannot drink these beverages. But we are saying that on Atkins you cannot use these beverages to replace the minimum 64 ounces of water we are to drink daily.

I've read your other threads about the carb count in diet drinks. And I realize this is in response to Bren's answer that you should count it as 1 net carb. Back in the days when Dr. Atkins was still alive and even in the months after his death when his medical clinic, The Atkins Center, was still functioning, if you called or wrote and asked the question "should I count the carbs in diet soda?" They'd give you this answer: count each serving as 1 net carb because you don't know if the ingredients have carbs. The other ingredients are the dyes, the flavorings, etc.

The other advantage of counting these carbs, even as 0.5 carbs per serving is that you learn portion control. Dr. Atkins didn't mention that in DANDR, but he did mention it in Atkins For Life. If you don't start learning portion control and portion sizes, it might make things difficult for you in the long run. By counting these carbs you become more aware of all the foods you eat. It's possible on this diet to overeat and to overeat "legal" foods. By learning portion size and following portion control, that will help you break a bad eating habit or prevent you from forming a new one.

[Diva217.5]

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Wow.......this sounds all kinda odd doesnt it?A newbie posts in every forum here pushing diet rite........I've been to alot of forums and this is common for companies to post on forums that cater to their products.Wouldnt suprise me one bit, lets just see how her "weight loss" progress goes and how long she sticks around.

[b8tovene]

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I am not a representative - Just very surprise to find out this information - maybe a bit excited about the prospect. That's all.

[b8tovene]

Re: Diet Rite Cola Has Literally Zero Carbs!!

megs,


You use the term "diet Drink" or 'Diet Soda" - my point in all of this is that Diet Rite segragates itself somewhat from the rest because of what I talked about. As far as portion control goes - drinking 64 oz. of water a day, for most is a lot of water. My point is, most don't drink that much. Atkins teaches you plenty of portion control with the food portion of this diet. If your blood glucose does not elavate, and you enjoy the taste, I don't understand the problem.

I posted on this group a few months ago but stopped posting because it seemed to me that everyone that repsonded to my posts were always preachy, and professorial. "make sure you", "don't do", "remember to always" - I understand the importance of structure and moderation, it is the lack of those intellectual tools that gets fat people fat, but if you like soda, and you find one with no literal carbs, no sodium, no calories, I do not for the life of me understand the problem. I understand the purpose behind curbing sugar addiction as well but if you body is ingesting NONE or next to none, it will lose its desire for it over time. That has been my experience, and I am sure it has been the experience of other. Drinks like Diet Rite become too sugary and people end up cutting them in half with club soda.

It is good information to know, and people should arm themselves with as much information as they can.

I am currently in my second week of induction and I am dumping ketones like crazy, I have been drinking Diet Rite since the beginning - it does not effect your blood sugar nor does it effect Ketosis, nor do I find myself wanting a twinkie just because I am pounding down Diet Rites during the day. Sugar addiction is fed by sugar not by sweet tasting fluids. It is the physical need for sugar that causes the addiciton.

Mark

[dotsamantha]

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To a lot of people, you're coming off as extremely preachy right now. Posting the same thing in multiple forums over and over doesn't do much for perceived sincerity, and to reiterate my earlier point, there is nothing natural about much of what is in any soda. One of the ingredients is a diuretic. All coffee is is water pushed through beans, but it's still a major diuretic. Nothing that promotes water loss can be counted as water. This woe in induction has a diuretic effect which is why we consume so much water. If it works for you then congratulations, but the reason people say what they do about "this is the way it is" is because that's what works. There are many stickies on this board that make mention that this is a "by the book" place. If you want to add things then go right ahead, but there is a point when it isn't Atkins anymore. Things evolve of course, but soda in any form isn't healthy or natural or supportive of breaking addictions.

[dotsamantha]

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By the way:

not2late said:

For some folks artificial sweeteners and regular sugar can trigger something called the "cephalic phase insulin response". Basically, the sweet taste alone will cause you to release insulin. The insulin will grab any bit of sugar you might have floating around in your blood. When you blood sugar dips below a certain point, it triggers your brain to feel hunger or cravings.

This is results in a vicious cycle: the more you eat or drink of the artificial sweetener the more insulin you'll release so the hungrier you'll feel and the more you'll want/need to eat. That's why some people can't stop drinking can after can of diet soda: satisfying their sweet tooth only makes them want more. This can happen with any artificial sweetener.

http://bestlowcarbs.com/article1082.html
http://www.extique.com/askrob5-3.htm

This is why the ADBB moderators and old-timers strongly advise everyone to kill that sweet tooth during Induction. Starve that sweet tooth and you'll be in control of the food, rather than the food be in control of you.

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...light=cephalic

[ValidRouge]

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Here is a quote from you in the induction forum in one of the other threads you posted on this same subject today:

Thank you for all the advice. All I drink is water - literally. Every fluid I drink is water. Before the Induction, I would not drink a lot of soda, but again, I would like to drink a soda every once in a while, and to that end, I would like to know what the exact Splenda level is.

Then, in this thread you said:

I am currently in my second week of induction and I am dumping ketones like crazy, I have been drinking Diet Rite since the beginning - it does not effect your blood sugar nor does it effect Ketosis, nor do I find myself wanting a twinkie just because I am pounding down Diet Rites during the day. Sugar addiction is fed by sugar not by sweet tasting fluids. It is the physical need for sugar that causes the addiciton.

So, which is it...have you only been drinking water and want permission? Or, have you been drinking it all along and looking for validation? As you've already found out, you probably aren't going to get either from this board, just a repetitive answer of "moderation" after induction and in ADDITION to the 64 minimum fluid ounces of PURE WATER.

[b8tovene]

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It is not still "SPlenda" I outlined the differences. Splenda which comes in the powder form has filler which contain carbs, liquid Splenda (Sucralose) does not. Hello?

[b8tovene]

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I'm a "he" and I have no connection with Diet Rite. My God - you know what this bulliten board reminds me of? "Read the Book!" - The Bible "Dr. Atkins" - God, The Bulletin Board - "Church". I really think this is a religion for some people. I am a pretty level-headed guy but some of you are almost like Born and Atkinians preaching the Word of Atkins with blurred over eyes walking like zombies...Like I said before, I posted a few months back and got the same reaction - preachy follow what we say or else, who is this outsider crap. Seriously people. Lighten up. I posted this in the Forums where I thought it applicable.

[sunflowergrl]

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You made your point, several times. Why are you so set on getting us to agree with you, and not Dr. Atkins? Splenda is Splenda, in liquid or powder form. I am sorry you don't understand that. This is an Atkins board, and we are very open and up front about the fact that we go by the book. If you have such a problem with this, why are YOU here? I know why I am here, and I wouldn't go to a board I disagreed with and bash them for what they beleive. I find that last post very rude. I am sorry if it offends you that I take my health seriously. You seem to take Diet Rite Cola pretty serious.

[sunflowergrl]

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I think this (and all the other threads) should be closed. Its getting rude and out of hand.

[dotsamantha]

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Well since I've only been here barely over a month, this is the only thread I've posted in that I've debated someone. Honestly, if you had posted once like most people do, citing the benefits of your soda, you may have still received some criticism, but everyone's entitled to their opinions. You sent a barrage of threads out with the exact same thing. That's bad forum etiquette anywhere. It's very spammy and it clogs up the forums. If you had gone about it just slightly differently, no one would be preaching the gospel to you.

[b8tovene]

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You're - I've made my point. You can do with this information what you want. The last thing I will I will address is the post that breaks down the indredients in this soda and mentions are the chemical-ly compoents. How about breaking down all the chemicals/steriods we are eating in all the Chicken? Lets get a nurtitional breakdown of those - do look at the ingredients of Deit Rite and condemn without breaking down the additives to the feed of Red Meat and Chicken/Turkey is a bit hypocritical.

[sadie147]

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Only packaged splenda has bulking agents in it. I would imagine most foods manufactured with splenda don't use the bulk form, but a liquid form that is supplied to them as a manufacturer. Any soda (this would include diet crush, coke with splenda etc) would be essentially the same as diet rite.

The bulked splenda is for consumers to add to foods in the right amounts...ie: 1 packet = 2 tspsn sugar. that makes it alot easier to add to your coffee etc.

i think it would be obvious manufacturers would use a different version, most likely if it's for a drink, it would be a liquid.