Franken-Food & the Tight Spot...

[fawn]

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1 medium 2 1/2 " apple has 21 g carbs 4 fiber and a whopping 159 mg. of potassium, folate, vitamin C, Vitamin A
I eat 1 1/2-2 apples a day on maintenance
try 1/2 to begin with at 8 net carbs and see how you do. That is more than the 5 gr. recommended but apples ae a fruit one should not stray from for too long. Too many health/longevity benefits. We can be as skinny as we want but if we're breeding degenerative disease it's not much worth it is it?

[fawn]

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Just found a great web page about apples. Check out the Atkins/southbeach reference. Hope it's ok to post a link. Let me know if I'm violating rules

http://www.nyapplecountry.com/nutrition.htm

[2big4mysize]

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Thanks for the tip 2Big!!

However, I had a different understanding. When the late-great-Dr. A was publishing the 2002 version of DANDR, he marketed several bars, including chocolate decadence, peanute butter, and, the only one I can actually eat, coconut.

On this last bar, coconut, I've watched the formulatin pretty carefully. Eating one of these things is an aquired art, and I haven't seen any substantial change to the bars. Forgetting the glycerin effect, they're still pretty low carb.

I guess, I'm trying to stay out of trouble - so I'm trying to get aroudn those "tight spots". Picture a board room after 6 hours where the only food in the company is doughnuts. Or a public, televised, 3 hour meetign that shows up after you've just run 4 miles. That kind of scenario. Most of the time, a pack of tuna ain't gonna make it.

Thanks!!

Actually Thinker as i stated all Atkins bars were reformulated to taste better after DANDR was published and there for the foods Dr Atkins stood behind don't exist any more. gycerine and mannitol which has the lowest threshold for the bathroom effect and the lowest GI of all the SAs was used as the sweeteners back when he wrote DANDR. in 2002 Dr Atkins highered 2 hot shots to run his food company and boy did they do a great job as a food company. they brought out new products by the dozens and changes the flavors, textures and formulas of the old products to appeal to more folk.

Since you are an OWLer and eating nuts have you tried berries rung yet? if so you can carry an atkins version of GORP made with dried nonsugared berries nuts and seeds all legal. When you get to the other fruits rung you can experiment with other dried nonsugared fruits too. or as fawn suggested have an apple or even a pear and some cheese. you'd look very stylish at those parties nibbling on some exotic cheese and fruit slices.

[not2late]

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I'm with Heidi and fawn---whole, minimally processed and refined foods are much better than those artificially flavored, refined foods. It makes more nutritional sense to use up 5 net carbs or 100 calories on a plate of roast turkey, asparagus with hollandaise sauce than it is to use it on a 2 ounce candy bar, imo.

I haven't had any major problems finding "acceptable" foods in restaurants or street fairs. I simply stick to the basics: grilled foods, roasted foods, steammed veg or salads. Last sunday I went to the Smithsonian's Folk Life festival. Here's the link to their food concessions:
http://www.folklife.si.edu/festival/...ncessions.html

I had the smoked turkey drumstick and the collard greens. I brought along a couple ounces of cheese and had grapes for a snack. That real food was tastier, provided more nourishment and stuck to me longer, than a 2 ounce bar or a 6 ounce shake would have.

Whole food = best food.

[Heidi3]

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if you make spiced nuts in a crockpot (Megs had a thread in the cooking chat) you can take those anywhere set them out to share and you will always have what you need ....bring whatever you want to eat to these gatherings maybe?

[boonie stomper]

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Jumping right back to the beginning of this, which seems turned to a pro-con debate of low-carb frannkenfoods versus good real food solutions for when you need a food fix and which are the better ones...


1. A man does not look funny carrying a cooler, briefcase or backpack, so there is no excuse not to bring your food and drink rations with you.

2. Even without such a package, 3 ounces of a good dense food is only about the size of a pack of cigarettes, or a plastic soap box (which could be used to carry food in your pocket). 3 ounces of dry cheese, nuts, raisins, jerky, etc. are easy to measure out in advance into baggies you can store in your car dash, your desk drawer, your shirt pocket.

3. You can always squeeze those tailgate lemons/limes into a glass of ice (your choice on the booze) to make a quick blood-sugar helper.

[Thinker]

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Where are you with the program?

I wish I could find a way to get those great little rulers/bar things to work. The ones everyone has at the bottom of their signatures showing their progress.

Anyway, I'm in OWL.

I started at about 310lbs. Four years ago.

I dropped down, to my lowest, of 199lbs (Christmas day). Frankly, that was a bit of a fluke. I stabilized for almost 3 yrs at about 205 - 210. Where I entered maintenance. What's got me back down a few rungs is that I crept up to the 215 (even 220 on a screw up day!!!). I'm unhappy at this weight and want to get moving downward again.

My real goal - the weight I'd like to be - is 185-190. I'm making a "run" at it now. I've had only limited success restarting my weight loss over these last few months. I think I suffer from the "I'm a big time Atkins expert since I lost 100lbs. I can do this easily, without really going back to basics and identifying the foods/situations that are a problem" syndrome. I've learned my lesson ... am back to basics.

4 yrs ago, Frankenfood (I LOOVEEE THIS TERM) was an OK emergency food. There's been a change in these of course. They're never a staple. I'm trying to get a better idea on what I can use to help me march to Onderland (I LOOVVEE THAT TERM TOO!) .

Anyway - that's my story.....

- Thinker

[Suzanne_H]

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Thinker, you are such an inspiration to me! Your weight loss and determination are just tremendous... AWESOME!!! I must say, however, that the frankenfoods tend to throw me out of ketosis and stall my weight loss whereas flexing a rung or three to eat real, whole foods usually does not.

[fawn]

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Always stick to the basics of whole foods thinker and you will be a success.
Always remember too that fruit is not the enemy. Once you realize how good it feels to enjoy a bowl of fruit on a warm summer afternoon without guilt...Realize what the colors of the rainbow do for your fine tuned machine....stop at a fruit stand for a snack on a road trip of a fresh peach some walnuts a string cheese and really enjoy it.....And all the while losing lbs. or inches...you have arrived my friend.

[2big4mysize]

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I've had only limited success restarting my weight loss over these last few months. I think I suffer from the "I'm a big time Atkins expert since I lost 100lbs. I can do this easily, without really going back to basics and identifying the foods/situations that are a problem" syndrome. I've learned my lesson ... am back to basics.

I love that line so many repeat folk have so much trouble getting back on plan cause they now KNOW it works so they will test the limits in every way they can where as when whtey were a newbie they panicked over one too many carbs of veggies for the day or not getting all their veggies in.

And as Boonie Stomper posted REAL MEN carry food containers and REAL MEN are the trend setters eating thier nutritious home prepared meal when their blood sugar needs it and not stuffing in junk foods cause their body is important to them. We know you are a REAL MAN so be the trendsetter at your meetings and parties and not some meek fraidycat cause it isn't cool to do the right thing. Just think in a few months all the fellows will be thanking you for breaking the ice so they too could feed their hunger.

[fawn]

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And real men always look good carrying a package

[Thinker]

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And real men always look good carrying a package

Yes ...it's true. Nothing really says raw sexual prowess like a lunchbox. "Hi, come have sex with me. I have chilled meat in a box."

So much for poetry!!!

[Sweet_Sadie]

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Yes ...it's true. Nothing really says raw sexual prowess like a lunchbox. "Hi, come have sex with me. I have chilled meat in a box."

So much for poetry!!!

ROFLOLPIMP Thinker!
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As far as the bars go....

Because I can't take a "SHUT UP!" hint obviously!

I honestly don't see what's wrong with this in an EMERGENCY. Can we agree to disagree or is a differing opinion unwelcome here and best kept to oneself?

"Note: For those following the Atkins Nutritional Approach, this product is appropriate for Induction (Phase1)."

I don't see any sugar alcohol or sugar either. But, I don't see how they come up with 2 net carbs, it looks like 6 net carbs to me.


This is the info from the Creamy Cinnamon Bun Breakfast Bar Box. It looks like this:

[Sweet_Sadie]

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PS - They taste like $hit!

[2big4mysize]

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Sweet Sadie would it help you to know that Atkins Nutritionals is not owned by the Atkins family and that one of the managers was quoted in the NYTIMES yrs after Dr Atkins death about those foods they now make saying management debated about them but in the end decided that in todays world consumers needed conveince foods if they were going to eat according to Dr Atkins since they weren't going to cook. They not Dr Atkins made the choice to defy rule 5 and Dr Atkins advice about eating whole foods.

As to the carbcount Dr Atkins attempted to get the FDA to change the law back in the early 2000s along with other low carb food companies to allow then to list any carbohydrate like glycerine, SAs and hydrolyized starches ( I bolded them in the ingredients) as fiber since according to the low carb manufacturer folk they didn't have blood sugar metabolic impact. FIber is defined as something that goes in your mouth and passes out the other end unmetabolized. The FDA said NO so the low carb folk started making net effective carb boxes on the labels and altering the carb counts on the real labels. Russel Stover got busted by the FDA and had to recall the low carb candies cause the FDA said the labels were false. So now they list them all but also list a net effective carb elsewhere like the one you see on those bars.

INGREDIENTS: PROTEIN BLEND [SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE, HYDROLYZED COLLAGEN, WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE (MILK), SODIUM CASEINATE], GLYCERINE, POLYDEXTROSE, PALM KERNEL AND PALM OIL, COCONUT OIL, CELLULOSE, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, OLIVE OIL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, SOY LECITHIN, COCOA POWDER (PROCESSED WITH ALKALI), MALTODEXTRIN, GUAR GUM, CITRIC ACID, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL COLOR, SUCRALOSE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, NUTRITION BLEND: VITAMIN A PALMITATE, ASCORBIC ACID, NIACINAMIDE, RIBOFLAVIN, THIAMIN MONONITRATE, FOLIC ACID, ALPHA TOCOPHERYL ACETATE.

FYI in this day and age I'd ask if the HYDROLYZED COLLAGEN is bovine and if so is classified as carrying no detectable infectivity to be sure about mad cow

again if you need a bar you can make your own much cheaper using Barbde's recipe.