Have I lost enough weight....

[*Emma*]

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I think thats a great idea, OWL rocks!

[dpaca]

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Owl Rocks, as you put it, however, I am really confused with it. If you continue to lose weight at a slower pace on OWL why would anyone want to move to that stage? And what if you start gaining? Do you go back to Induction? I have read the Dr Atkins book and been on the website but I feel that the OWL stage is not as clearly outlined and it seems to me that Induction is much more clearly described.

[*Emma*]

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who said its slower? i lost 1 pound or so a week on induction, this went up to about 3 pounds with OWL, my body likes good carbs!

I agree theres not enough info on OWL in the book, this stickies in the OWL forum here are great though, read up on them!

[dpaca]

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Thank you

[Brook]

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Owl Rocks, as you put it, however, I am really confused with it. If you continue to lose weight at a slower pace on OWL why would anyone want to move to that stage?

Why? Well several things. First of all, a lot of people actually lose weight faster on OWL. Secondly, moving up the rungs provides you with many, many more food choices - and this is a lifestyle change -not a race to the finish line (again - instant gratification mind set that got ya in trouble in the first place!). It makes this WOE a WOE and not a diet. Add to that that our bodies acclimate very quickly to the things that we do. Do you really want to find yourself in a position of having an artificially low CCLL because you didn't follow the plan as outlined? It happens quite often that people find they can't move up without gaining because they stayed too low for too long.

And what if you start gaining? Do you go back to Induction?

This is addressed in the book. This is why OWL is taken slowly - at a rate of 5 additional grams per week. Me? I did/do 5 additional grams every 2 weeks so that I knew exactly how it would affect me. If you start to gain, you evaluate the things you added to your menu and figure out if you're dealing with a trigger food. If that doesn't do it, then you've found your CCLL and you drop back down 5 grams. You don't start all over again.

I have read the Dr Atkins book and been on the website but I feel that the OWL stage is not as clearly outlined and it seems to me that Induction is much more clearly described.

Agreed, which is why you'll find tons of information here in stickies, FAQs, and experience.

[plsmachic]

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I enjoyed reading this thread... just wanted to put that out there...

[dpaca]

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I think that everyone’s advice is fantastic and I really appreciate it. However, we are all adults, thus sometimes when the tone of some posts gets rather patronising it is not very helpful. But please do not misunderstand me, its just that as a person with a weight issue, I am quite frankly fed up of such tones, and this site is the only place were I can express myself in the hope that I will find empathy from people who are on the same boat as me.

[hrgillespie]

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I haven't found anyone here patronising to me at all and girl I ask a ton of questions ............ you need to glean what you can from the people who have gone on before you and found success ....... no one here will beat you down all they do is answer questions and build you up on your journey towards successfully reaching your goals .........

The plan is very specific about what you can and can not do and when you start trying to find ways to manipulate it is when you will come into trouble with the losing aspect .......... hang in there ........ stick to the plan, ask questions and graciously accpet the answers you are given because they are given with love support and dedication to this Atkins WOL.

I wish you the very best!

[Brook]

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I'm not sure what you're finding patronizing or condescending, dpaca.

Please remember that everyone here takes time out of their busy days to post answers to questions. We do it to offer support.

Truthfully, sometimes the answers are hard to hear. Sometimes the answers don't come Splenda-coated, but that doesn't negate the fact that they're meant to be helpful and given in the spirit of support and wanting you to succeed.

If you read something you don't like, scroll on past it, but please recognize the fact that someone took time out of their day to respond to something you posted when they could have just as easily went on about their business.

I wish you success.
~Brook

[dpaca]

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We all take time to post, regardless of whether we are asking a question or answering it. I appreciate that, and I cannot emphasise enough how important I feel it is. If I thought otherwise I would have not bothered with this in the first place. As far as the truth being harsh, or perhaps the impression I may have given as someone who is trying to manipulate or not follow the plan properly, well if that were true I would not have bothered with asking for your advice. However, (and without trying to be rude or horrible or in anyway ungrateful) sometimes I feel that a certain tone is not appropriate. Either way I congratulate you all for doing so well and I appreciate your advice and well wishes, and I hope I too will lose as much weight as you have.

[Hoping]

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Your weightloss is wonderful! Omg, I would love to have such rapid weightloss!
I, too, had heard about the "break" every two weeks or whatever. And someone mentioned it to my fiance as well. I guess the idea is that you're "shocking your system" therefore losing more weight.
But if you really think about it, it's yo-yo dieting and it's just like going back to a clean induction. I know some on this board have mentioned that every time they've re-started they've lost less weight than previously. It's just not a good idea, in my opinion anyway.

I know what you mean about the tone, but I think it's just that many get very wrapped up in their post. There's a lot of passion and willingness to help behind what they are saying.

[Richt]

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Re the tone. You also have to remember that typed words can so easily be mis-construed. Anyone can read anything into anything without knowing the real context in which things are said.

When talking face to face, the tone of someones voice can give away if its a condescending comment or a patrionising comment, or even someone legitimately trying to be helpful. But with typed words its very very difficult to tell the difference.

R

[dpaca]

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Re the tone. You also have to remember that typed words can so easily be mis-construed. Anyone can read anything into anything without knowing the real context in which things are said.

When talking face to face, the tone of someones voice can give away if its a condescending comment or a patrionising comment, or even someone legitimately trying to be helpful. But with typed words its very very difficult to tell the difference.

R

Very true, and although I do not wish to dwell on this point any longer, if written words could not be interpreted in the way that they were meant, we would find it very difficult to go through and understand the impressive amounts of written works that we all now read in our daily lives.

[dpaca]

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Your weightloss is wonderful! Omg, I would love to have such rapid weightloss!
I, too, had heard about the "break" every two weeks or whatever. And someone mentioned it to my fiance as well. I guess the idea is that you're "shocking your system" therefore losing more weight.
But if you really think about it, it's yo-yo dieting and it's just like going back to a clean induction. I know some on this board have mentioned that every time they've re-started they've lost less weight than previously. It's just not a good idea, in my opinion anyway.

I know what you mean about the tone, but I think it's just that many get very wrapped up in their post. There's a lot of passion and willingness to help behind what they are saying.

Thank you