Support Please

[basketballbelly]

Ok, I'm doing really well, but I'm already getting tired of all this weighing food...I did not do it today so I can't put my foods in fitday, I've had chicken wings, celery and cream cheese and two boiled eggs, but I simply did not want to (and did not) weigh the food! I was drawn to Atkins because it promised great weight loss without weighing and measuring...just counting carbs...I just hate this!

bbb

[stephbob]

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I don't use fitday, so I dont have the need to weigh my food. You don't HAVE to use fitday to do Atkins, you don't HAVE to weigh everything. After time, you get used to guessing correctly and knowing portion size and control. But if you've been having trouble starting off and getting serving sizes right, then until you know how much is enough, then it's a great way to do so. Nobody's forcing you to do it, it's just a suggestion on how you can help yourself to get the best results.

I can honestly say neither times I've been on Atkins have I ever weighed any of my food, but I've still been able to follow it and be successful. Some people, however, may overestimate the amount of chicken they eat, for instance, and it's only when they make note of it do they realise that they are eating just meat...and not enough veg.

[kibskix]

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Personally I think if you get obsessive and weigh every single tiny thing for every single meal every single day, you'd go nuts. I personally don't weigh a darn thing. I know how much I need to have with my eye, and if I think I haven't had enough, I eat a little more. All you need to do if you don't know how much a cup of a veggie is, weigh it once, then remember what that looks like, or remember how much of your bowl/plate that fills. I use Fitday to track my weight and my mood and things like that, but I simple can't enter in everything I eat every day on there, its a waste of time because I've done this so many times, I know what I need to eat and where I need to be. Nowadays I only use it if I have a question about how many carbs are in a certain thing. I don't even enter it, I just go look it up. Its a tool, not a requirement.

And even if you feel better about it being super detailed and weigh everything, I think losing a good amount of weight in trade off with being annoyed about having to spend an extra 5 minutes weighing your food is well worth the hassle!

[blueberrylady]

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I don't weigh everything either! I know from experience how big a slice of meat, or chicken or cup of green beans is. I do sometimes check the weights just to be sure that I'm not going over too much but that's just occasionally. So relax and enjoy your meals. They don't have to be a hassle!

[SunnySmile501]

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Thanks to so many years weighing and measuring every morsel that entered my mouth, while fearing every gram of fat and every calorie, I can just about tell to the gram how much I am eating. I am writing a cookbook, so I tried it with my digital scales and I was right to within a smidgen or two, even eyeballing teaspoons and tablespoons of spices before weighing and measuring, so I do not and never have weighed and measured on Atkins. I did measure lettuce way back at the start, because I never had measured it before. I don't need to, since I lost 102 pounds in 10 months just by following the rules by the book. It works just like Dr. A said it would. Of course, that meant I had to know all the rules and not try to work my way around them.

[basketballbelly]

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. Of course, that meant I had to know all the rules and not try to work my way around them.

Did I do something to upset you? Please show me one post that shows I'm trying to work my way around any of Dr. Atkin's rules...what's up? If I offended you I apologize, but from the very first post to me you have been making this assumption...please stop or just stop replying to me. I keep looking for something positive and supportive from you, you start out ok but always wind up with an insult, can you please explain why.

Thanks
bbb

[liv]

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I think Sunny was just talking about herself BBB.
I don't weigh either. Sometimes I think it may be a useful thing to do but I don't want to get to obsessive. I do have to use fitday because if I do not write down what I eat some way I take liberties. It is the darnest thing but that is how it goes with me.
Some people weigh and that is what works for them. You have to do what works for you. If weighing your food is too much then don't.

[SunnySmile501]

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Did I do something to upset you? Please show me one post that shows I'm trying to work my way around any of Dr. Atkin's rules...what's up? If I offended you I apologize, but from the very first post to me you have been making this assumption...please stop or just stop replying to me. I keep looking for something positive and supportive from you, you start out ok but always wind up with an insult, can you please explain why.

Thanks
bbb

You have done nothing to upset me. I am extremely hard to upset. That statment was about me. It was a way to state how I worked it out to not to have to weigh and measure everything. It was what worked for me. You have a way of making everything said about you.

It seems that my trying to help you is always misunderstood, so I will not reply to any more of your posts. I am sorry that our styles just don't mesh.

[basketballbelly]

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You have done nothing to upset me. I am extremely hard to upset. That statment was about me. It was a way to state how I worked it out to not to have to weigh and measure everything. It was what worked for me. You have a way of making everything said about you.

It seems that my trying to help you is always misunderstood, so I will not reply to any more of your posts. I am sorry that our styles just don't mesh.

Why wouldn't I think it was about me...you are speaking to ME. Thank you for not posting to me anymore, no hard feelings, but after the first post from you I think I'm sensitive and will take everything you say to heart. I respect the fact that you've done so well.

bbb

[chinadoll]

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BBB - for myself, when I offer advice I usually am offering advice that worked for myself and side comments usually refer to my own shortcomings. Sunny 's words were the same. Sometimes those comments can be taken to mean we are suggesting those shortcomings in others--not necessarily the case, but it is important that all of us not kid ourselves about how good or bad we are being. You will find that there are many thing you can embrace about this WOE and there are things you just can't abide with. For some people it is giving up sweeteners. For me I can't give up my coffee completely. For others like Liv, it means making sure they put things into Fitday.

By exposing our own foibles, sometimes others begin to see some of their own stumbling blocks on their paths. Our replies are always reflections on what we ourselves have encountered and are much more likely to be our own self criticism but serve as a possible red flag for others too. Hope this puts the comments into perspective.

[basketballbelly]

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chinadoll, liv - thanks for the input, but the very first post to me on this site was from SunnySmile501 and without even asking a question or getting to know me she ripped right into me. There is no way for me to take anything said lightly, first impressions are very hard to do away with.

That said, I've had others give me sound advice nicely, I've had others tell me I am doing the wrong thing and give me suggestions how to do it better, I am very open to suggestions, I've been doing Akins for a very long time without seeing real results, so I'm here to learn...I'm just one of those people that believe bullies hide behind the 'tough love' title and I refuse to be treated badly. I would rather avoid a confrontation than stay quite and let it boil up, better to be honest with people up front and draw the lines in the sand before things get out of control.

I really thank all of you for all your help, I hope to really do it this time, measuring and all... I'm just the type that responds better to kindness.

Again, I hope there are no bad feelings, I'm really trying to bow out of these ongoing bad feelings nicely

bbb

[chinadoll]

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Sometimes two members writing/reading styles clash. I also know that some days I am in a crummy mood and am less than sympathetic when I reply (I try to watch that now ) or if the reader is feeling low or defensive things can be taken differently than intended. That's the problem with print--no tone of voice to go with it. There are a few folks whose posts rubbed me the wrong way when I first started. And I understand what you say about first impressions. I felt the same with some of the moderators and there is one or two whose response style still tends to grate a bit. Sunny is wise enough to see that you and she have a different communication style so she has bowed out, but know that all advice is given with the intent to help even if the way it comes across can sound very harsh at times.

[Georgiana]

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Ok, I'm doing really well, but I'm already getting tired of all this weighing food...I did not do it today so I can't put my foods in fitday, I've had chicken wings, celery and cream cheese and two boiled eggs, but I simply did not want to (and did not) weigh the food! I was drawn to Atkins because it promised great weight loss without weighing and measuring...just counting carbs...I just hate this!

I don't weigh my food, but I do measure it. When I started, I had to use cups for this, as it was not always easy to figure out how much a cup of, let's say, green beans is. These days, I only measure the new foods I introduce, like berries or yogurt -- because they have more carbohydrates, being off by 1/4 cup can make a difference.

During Induction, it is possible to have "great weight loss without weighing and measuring" as long as you can eyeball the correct quantities (most of us don't eat 20 g net carbohydrate per day) and make sure most of your carbs come from vegetables. However, as you move to OWL and Pre-Maintenance, measuring and/or weighing become essential for determining your CCLL and CCLM. Moreover, entering your foods/weight in Fitday will also point out food intolerances that you might otherwise not be aware of.

[basketballbelly]

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Georgiana - I know what you are saying is correct, I just hate weighing and measuring food. I wanted to ask all of you who have not weighed/measured your foods how you knew how many carbs you were consuming? I was surprised to see that 2 cups of lettuce has 3.3g of carbs...how did you know if you were doing it right? When you purchase leaf lettuce it does not come in a bag (which is what I prefer) so there are no labels...

BTW, I've been introduced to the ignore button. Great invention. There is no need for any of us to have a bad day or argue with anybody. Again, I appreciate that she has done so well on the diet and I offer her my congrats!

Thanks all.

bbb

[chinadoll]

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Well, you have a point. I am sure there were days when I had a cup and a quarter of lettuce instead of a straight cup because I guestimated it. Same goes for maybe having 5 ounces of meat instead of 4. And that probably isn't the best way to proceed but I hate measuring and weighing and that was my whole reason for liking Atkins. I guess I took my chances on that one. I know if I stall for an extended period of time that is always a call for me to start measuring again since my portion sizes are out of whack. But I think you do develop a sense of portions by repetition and don't really go too far off if you are careful.