A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

[momonmission99*]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

I answered your question in the forum and I'm only 27, female and lost 18 pounds in the first 2 weeks. I'm not being a smart ***, but you might want to go back and re-read that thread to get some better info, unless you're looking for people over the age of 65. Then obviously the info you have is correct and important.

Good luck on your paper!

It also might be helpful to ask what part of the diet they were on and an estimate of the carbs they ate per day.

[liv]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

We are a skeptical bunch aren't we? Thanks for explaining though. Hope that stress goes away soon.
So now that I know I all this stuff I am prepared to participate in your survey. Hope it helps and good luck.

Atkins Nutritional Approach Questioner
Background Health Questions (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• Do you have a family history of obesity? no
  
• Do you have a family history of diabetes? no
  
• Do you have a family history of heart disease? yes
  
• What is your age range? A: 20-25 B: 26-30 C: 31-45 D: 46-or older D
  

About the First Two weeks Of The Diet (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• How long have you been on the Atkins Diet? 16 months
  
• Do you think the Atkins Diet is hard to follow? No. Harder than getting fat but not that hard
  
• In the first two weeks of the Atkins Diet did you experience any fatigue?Yes around day 3
  
• In the first two weeks of the Atkins Diet did you experience hunger?Yes the first two days
  
• Rate your energy levels the first two weeks of the diet? 1: Very Low 2: Low 3: Medium 4:Medium-High 5:High 6: Very High: on average 4: Medium High
  
• Did you lose weight the first two weeks? If so, would you care to tell me how much?

After the First Two Weeks Of The Diet (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• How would you describe you energy levels after the first two weeks? 1: Very Low 2: Low 3: Medium 4:Medium-High 5:High 6: Very High : High
  
• After the first two weeks did you continue to lose weight?Yes
• Was the weight you lost steady from week to week? No
  
• Have you seen a physician recently for a check-up?Yes
• Does your physician approve of the Atkins Diet?Yes

1) Does anyone know where Dr. Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine is located?
I only know from google. But Atkins was somewhat holistic himself
2) The second question I have are of medical nature and I totally understand if you all don't want to answer them but I'm going to ask anyway. Have you ever experienced any of the following while on the Atkins diet: constipation, nausea, headaches, fatigue, or bad breath.
I have experienced some of them but I don't think it was because of the diet. I have had a headach, I have bad breath (especially when I have garlic).


3) Do you know how ketones are formed?
Yes I think I know because Atkins explained this in his book.


PS I merged your other post in here
Don't make me out to be over 65 now

[researchstudent]

Y'all know how to stress a county girl out.

Hey, I don't know if my other message posted so I'll repete in simplest form
Stay at Home Mother. I also work a cow farm. Beef is our main income.
Going to College at night. UVA at Wise, Abingdon, VA campus Southwest Virginia Higher Education Center (You can look it up on the web it will take directly to the site)
Major:Business Adminstration
My paper is for COMM 345: Technical Writting
I have a two year old who hanges off my arm.
I'm a Weight Watchers member so other diets do interest me.

If you want to see some of my paper and an explination of what my paper is about and what I have done with your questions then look at my thread "A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch" .

[kibskix]

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Those are not symptoms of atkins, those are symptoms of induction flu, depending how much garbage you ate before you started atkins, it can be nonexistant or last the first few days. When you suddenly go from giving your body a crap load of sugar, to no sugar, it gets pissy. So why, exactly, is that supposed to be a bad thing? I'm quitting smoking right now, and it SUCKS. I'm irritated and fidgity and not in a good mood. Does that mean I ought to just give my body what it wants?
point made.

my kidneys are exceptional. This is not a high protein diet where you should worry about ketones unless you have a pre existing problem with your kidneys. I repeat. NOT a high protein diet. this is a high fat diet. I eat about 3 times more veggies i think than meat a day, with healthy, whole fats in every meal. My kidneys are screaming out their thank yous at me now that i'm drinking 150-200oz of water a day, as opposed to disgusting cokes or alcohol. I used to suffer from chronic uti's, yeast infections, and as a kid had a lot of kidney infections. My health and the way my organs function has gone up it feels like 100%.

You need to keep in mind that about 90% of anything you read online about atkins is pure crap. It doesn't destroy your kidneys, it doesn't put you in a coma, it doesn't cause ketoacidosis (if you've even gotten to that word yet) and it isn't unhealthy (NOTE: If done -correctly-). I'll give you some advice. Don't ask all the people here silly questions or get bent out of shape if they're wary of you. Sit down and think about how much BS we put up with from people who have no idea what theyre talking about. Not just strangers but loved ones too, and you might understand. save some time and just read aalllll the stickies. In the main forum, in the induction forum, all of em. Get a real idea of what real atkins is, not what marketing people try to feed you.

for the record, im on day 43 of extended induction. I've lost over 15lbs this go around on atkins (almost -40 from my highest weight ever), about 15 inches too. I eat veggies and drink water every single day, in copious amounts. I work out every day, an hour of cardio and 30 minutes of weight training when i can. i don't drink alcohol, dont eat bad-for-you fats, sugar, candy, chocolate, etc. the same things anyone eating any healthy way would avoid. i eat whole foods, no processed meat or cheese. i'm healthier, and at a lower weight, than i have been in 4 years. my blood pressure, blood sugar, (and kidneys) are fantastic. I have constant energy through the day. i no longer need naps. my sleep schedule regulated itself, i wake up naturally at 7:30, and go to bed at 10:30.
so to anyone who talks about atkins putting strain on their body or being unhealthy, i ask them to read that and tell me what exactly i'm doing thats so horribly unhealthy. seriously, point it out.
i dont see it.

[Sunny_0ne]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

I responded to your original survey and I am 60--not over 65.

Where did you get the conclusion that all of the responders were over 65?

If you are skewing that data, I am not very confident that you won't skew everything else, so I have no intention of participating further.

[researchstudent]

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My information about the kindneys came from a book and I have another Nutrition book I borrowed from a nursing student to support my information. But I will take into account what you are saying when I write the about the effects of the diet. Thank you very much.

[Georgiana]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

The question 2# was trying to contrdict Jane Kirby, R.D. "Dieting For Dummies", who listed those symptoms as side effects of the Atkins diet. She also said that ketones are produced from the restriction of carbohydrates which can put a strain on your kidneys I was only wanting to know if you dieter swere aware of the strain it puts on kidneys.

Can you tell me what is the reference she gives for her claim?

It is not restriction of carbohydrates that "puts a strain" on the kidneys, but the higher protein intake that is usually associated with a low carb diet. Although Atkins is a high fat diet and 65% of the calories one consumes during Induction come from fat and only 30% from protein, the protein intake can indeed be higher than the so-called recommended intake. However, studies done over the years have shown no association between carbohydrate restriction / higher protein intake and kidney disease. As Dr. Atkins wrote in his book, people with severe kidney disease should not follow Atkins unless directed to do so by their physician, but it is a myth that diets low in carbohydrate cause kidney disease. Here are references for two papers you might want to cite in your research paper:
1. Phinney S. D. et al., "The Human Metabolic Response to Chronic Ketosis Without Caloric Restriction: Physical and Biochemical Adaptation", Metabolism, 32(8.), 1983, pp. 757-768
2. Martin W. F., Armstrong L. E., Rodriguez N. R., "Dietary Protein Intake and Renal Function", Nutrition and Metabolism, 2:25, 2005

In examination of the Atkins Diet, my research will answer the following six questions: (1) Who created the Atkins diet? (2) How does one follow the Atkins diet? (3) What are the health benefits of the Atkins diet? (4) What are the health risks of the Atkins diet? (5) What are the health opinions of the dieters who are on the Atkins diet? (6) What is the medical opinion of the diet?

Since you will probably not get enough replies here for the responses to have any statistical significance, you should check studies done on larger groups. For this, a good start is the list of references cited at the back of Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, 2002 (pp. 503-527). Of course, the studies there are pro Atkins, so you will have to check other sources too. Maybe there are some references in Jane Kirby's book?

[researchstudent]

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Hey, I based my information for that section of my paper on who all had repled by 3:00p.m here yesterday. When I printed I didn't see your screen name in the replies. I'm sorry I missed your post but thanks for not accusuing me of anything. People seem to be too paranoid about me. Sheesh, people! I be glad when this is all over with. The paper is due on Tuesday so I think I'm going to keep my data like it is. Not really trying to prove much with type of research other than throwing around some statatics. But, thank you for being kind enough to respond.

[researchstudent]

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Sorry about that.l'll change that. I had a dyslexic moment and wrote down 65 instead of 46. Thanks for catching that.

[researchstudent]

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Happy now? Questions Answered?

[Georgiana]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

Okay, then here are some more answers.

Atkins Nutritional Approach Questionnaire
Background Health Questions (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• Do you have a family history of obesity? no
  
• Do you have a family history of diabetes? yes
  
• Do you have a family history of heart disease? yes
• What is your age range? A: 20-25
  

About the First Two weeks Of The Diet (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• How long have you been on the Atkins Diet? 16-17 months
  
• Do you think the Atkins Diet is hard to follow? no
  
• In the first two weeks of the Atkins Diet did you experience any fatigue? no
• In the first two weeks of the Atkins Diet did you experience hunger? no
• Rate your energy levels the first two weeks of the diet? 5: High
  
• Did you lose weight the first two weeks? If so, would you care to tell me how much? I did lose weight, but I didn't have a scale then so I'm not sure how much. Based on how my clothes fitted, I'd say 5-7 lbs. I could be wrong though.
  

After the First Two Weeks Of The Diet (Please answer yes or no to all questions unless otherwise stated.)

• How would you describe you energy levels after the first two weeks? 5: High
  
• After the first two weeks did you continue to lose weight? yes
  
• Was the weight you lost steady from week to week? no
  
• Have you seen a physician recently for a check-up? yes
  
• Does your physician approve of the Atkins Diet? I didn't discuss my diet with him. All my test results were great, so he didn't ask.
  

2) The second question I have are of medical nature and I totally understand if you all don't want to answer them but I'm going to ask anyway. Have you ever experienced any of the following while on the Atkins diet: constipation, nausea, headaches, fatigue, or bad breath.

No constipation, no nausea, no headaches, no fatigue. Bad breath... I don't think so. No one complained or turned green while talking to me.

3) Do you know how ketones are formed?

Yes, I know how they are formed from some biochemistry courses I took before starting Atkins.

[planetclaire]

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I didnt experience any of that on atkins, but i did grow this unusual pair of floppy ears out the top of my head.... and once i lost ten pounds, i developed an intense fear of pandas.

OMG THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME!!! They should really revise the DANDR to warn other people

[SunnySmile501]

Re: Y'all know how to stress a county girl out.

Hey, I don't know if my other message posted so I'll repete (repeat) in simplest form
Stay at Home Mother. I also work a cow farm. Beef is our main income.
Going to College at night. UVA at Wise, Abingdon, VA campus Southwest Virginia Higher Education Center (You can look it up on the web it will take directly to the site)
Major:Business Adminstration
My paper is for COMM 345: Technical Writting (writing)
I have a two year old who hanges off my arm.
I'm a Weight Watchers member so other diets do interest me.

If you want to see some of my paper and an explination (explanation) of what my paper is about and what I have done with your questions then look at my thread "A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch" .

I hate to belabor the point, but you spell "Technical Writting" Technical Writing. One T. Any paper worth writing is worth a spell check.

[mitzimarie]

Re: A couple more questions for the sake of reasearch...

People seem to be too paranoid about me. Sheesh, people! I be glad when this is all over with. The paper is due on Tuesday so I think I'm going to keep my data like it is. Not really trying to prove much with type of research other than throwing around some statatics.

Yes, I'll admit that I'm a bit touchy about the Atkins lifestyle... that is because I grow weary of defending my way of eating to those who don't know the facts or understand the plan fully. And now that I see how unconcerned you are with gathering accurate information and are only interested in "thowing around some statistics", I am still wary of you.

Instead of just asking for people to give the information to you on matters that are based on fact and not opinion, why don't you do some real research? Just reading some of the replies you have posted shows me that your paper will probably be full of inaccuracies.

For example, you wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by researchstudent
The question 2# was trying to contrdict Jane Kirby, R.D. "Dieting For Dummies", who listed those symptoms as side effects of the Atkins diet. She also said that ketones are produced from the restriction of carbohydrates which can put a strain on your kidneys I was only wanting to know if you dieter swere aware of the strain it puts on kidneys


What I am aware of, is that Atkins does NOT put a strain on your kidneys, unless you have a pre-existing kidney problem. Many people (who don't know what they're talking about) confuse ketosis with ketoacidosis... they are NOT the same thing. Jane Kirby is obviously confused.

Atkins and kidneys:

Low-Carb Pavilion - Why Protein is Not Bad for Your Kidneys

Low Carb, Atkins and Kidneys - Low Carb


Sorry to come off as harsh, but I just hate to see someone turn in a paper that is not well researched. That is part of the reason that Atkins gets a bad reputation... because people spread inaccuracies about it. My doctor is 100% pro-Atkins, and that is good enough for me.

How about do a real research paper, rather than just an interview?

[mitzimarie]

Re: Y'all know how to stress a county girl out.

I hate to belabor the point, but you spell "Technical Writting" Technical Writing. One T. Any paper worth writing is worth a spell check.

Sunny, it is heartbreaking to see how many "institutes of higher learning" have fallen away from correct grammar, spelling, and punctuation. I've seen papers that students have turned in for good grades at a local college, that wouldn't even earn a "C" in my high school.