anybody there? am dying of guilt!

[fairmount]

hi, im not being able to sleep thinking what should i do? i was on atkings for 3 weeks, and dieting normally even before that, and then i got fed up and since 2 days i ate rice, bread, and all.. and now im like i wish i dint, and should have just been patient and ocntinued. im dying of guilt here, anybody there to reply me right away?
i have guests coming over, and have to cook chochlate pudding for them, and i love it, should i quit adn eat it or continue? im just sooooo saaaad....

[ShannonK]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

No, don't be sad. You will be super fine! Just hang in there. Do not quit. Start back right away and go back to strict induction. With two days or maybe three, you should be back in ketosis and feeling better. Why did you get fed up? Rice and bread isn't so great, is it? What were you eating that made you give in to those things? Talk to us, my friend.

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

oh thanks so much for replying!
i love rice, and i have been eating chicken and beef and all and just felt like puking eating it again.
even though i try many different recipies.
and i didnt loose any weight since more than 1 week on induction.
at first when i initially lost weight, i felt my tummy got much smaller,

then after m weight stopped going down, it became a bit bigger again

i thought that maybe my body is just used to how much food im eating now and isnt affecting!

[ShannonK]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

No, no, this plan does work. You know this, don't you?

Why don't you post some sample menu's and we can try to figure out why this happened after the first week of induction? There is a reason for it and it can be overcome. You could consider this: Go back to a strict induction. Right now. Yes, tonight! (morning for me) Stay on a very strict induction... by the book for fourteen days. At that point, move on to OWL, rung 1. You get more of your carbs from veggies at that point and I know a number of people who saw the weight loss kick in during that 1st week on OWL. What do you think about that?

Extended induction is an excellent tool for a lot of people, but I don't believe it works as well for people who get bored with the dishes that they have. I am one of those people. I cannot stay on extended induction. Not that I love nuts so very much, but I do like the variety.

Thoughts?

[ShannonK]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

One other thing - this has helped me a lot. Someone here once (I sorry, can't remember who) said that she regards food as fuel. That is a hard concept, but WOW. Think about it and you realize that you don't have to enjoy every single meal. You are going to be thin and fit now. You don't have to enjoy food. What else will you enjoy instead?

Please don't take that to mean food is not enjoyable on this plan. It is!!! BUT, sometimes when there is no time to prepare a great meal, you have to eat another chicken breast/ ham& cheese roll up/ egg... you have to for fuel!

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

ahan, okay, its night here for me, from tomorrow morning ill be back on induction. but i already did induction for 3 weeks. do i have to do it for another 2 weeks or maybe one more week?

sample menu
breakfast- 2 fried eggs.
lunch- 2 pices of chicken wings roasted or simply fried
diner- one cup vegie(such as onion) and chicken/beef cooked together

i eat very spicy food, so i even calculated every single spice and herb i put, and that takes up a lot of carbs. bcuz of that im not left with many carbs to eat.

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

yeah ure right, thats what i was thinking at the beginning...i had gone to my mom's place and even though there was ausum food around me i stuck to my diet, but when dint see any changes in me, i got al frustrated.

[ShannonK]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

Well, No, you should not do another two weeks of induction. You should do two or three days until you are back in ketosis. After that, I would pick up right where you left off. You signature reads extended induction. I would move on to OWL, rung 1 - more veggies. I should clarify, though, that the members of this board are going to rip your menu apart because you are already not getting enough veggies.

This is just not enough food. How about cheese? A side salad with your lunch? An additional veggie with dinner? You are not getting ENOUGH carbs. You cannot lose weight by cutting them out all together.

What are your thoughts about rung 1? Have you read the book? At least, read through all the stickies at the top of each forum.

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

ohhh, well, okay then, i guess ill o induction for a week then, to pay off this 2 days that i had stopped and then move on to owl.
i have real the entire owl phase of the book as i was approaching it. but i will also read the stickies.
i feel, like when i eat alot of vegies it prevent me form loosing weight that day. and as my weight already stopped, if i move to owl, what if my body feels there is more food than usual and i start gaining it back? how come i will loose weight while incresing my food?
another question, should do 20g a day or 15g a day as i feel maybe im resistant to metobalism?

[ShannonK]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

Well, I am going to have to defer the question of how you lose more weight by eating more food. I just have to say that it can be true. Something to do with starvation mode. Ya gotta wait for some of the others to wake up and help us.

Georgiana? You gotta be up in Germany?

Anyway, I don't think you even have to stay for another week. OWL, rung 1 (in my humble opinion, at least for me) was not that different from Induction. The reason is because I have a hard time getting all my veggies in. I still struggle with that. Your menu indicates you might have the same problem. If so, move on as soon as a few days... OWL 1 will only encourage you to eat more veggies which are imperative for weight loss.

Regarding, metabolic resistance... Am I understanding correctly that you started at 150 lbs and your goal is 125 lbs.? Thus, you want to lose 25? You say you lost ten pounds and are currently at 140? (before the binge?) For that range, nine pounds of loss would indicate an average metabolic resistance. Twelve pounds would be low resistance. You are right in the middle. That is a far cry from having a high resistance to weight loss. You are going to be just fine, my dear.

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

really? hehe, im all smiles now...well, ill continue then, i had called up everyone and told them ive stopped dieting, gotta call everyone and tell them im back..
but i cant think of anything to eat in the morning apart from egg! hey, in owl, i can add 5 g of cabs each week right? do i add a new thing in that or the same allowed stuff?

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

but why i dint even loose 1 pound after the first two weeks on induction. and my weight stopped decreasing while i was on induction on- july 3rd i became 140 pounds, that was excatly, 11 days on induction, then another 12 days my weight dint move an inch. did i do something wrong?

[HoneyB]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

I second the notion of food as fuel!
You said being fed up eating mostly meats led you back to rice etc.
It got me thinking... We tie to much emotion into food –*make memories based on it, build social gatherings around it; use to it comfort, console. If only food was as committed to us!
Do you feel you're missing out, or being left behind if you can't eat what everyone else is having? Do you feel stress or other negative emotions when it comes to food?
Part of committing to a diet is being able to let go of the food-related preconceptions that formed your old set of habits. To be successful, strip away emotion entirely.
Don't think of food as a reward or a punishable offence, don't bother missing what you can't eat (it doesn't miss you!). And especially, please don't feel guilty when you stumble!

Instead, think of eating as science. Take a clinical look at the foods you consumed during the slip, analyse what elements will not lead to weight loss and leave them behind. Don't fret over spilled custard, it's only a few days! In a few months, your body will be leaner, fitter and healthier – something you'll value much more than the energy wasted stressing over a few mistakes.

This is about what you're going to have, not what you're leaving behind! Take the great advice everyone else here has posted, get your body science working again, and you'll be back on track in no time!

[Georgiana]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

i feel, like when i eat alot of vegies it prevent me form loosing weight that day. and as my weight already stopped, if i move to owl, what if my body feels there is more food than usual and i start gaining it back? how come i will loose weight while incresing my food?

I think there are actually two questions here.

1. How can you lose more weight by increasing your food intake?
2. How can you lose more weight by eating more veggies?

1. Right now your calories seem to be very low. If that is one day in which you just weren't hungry, then there's no problem with it. If, however, you eat below your body's needs every day, then your body will try to conserve what it has. And that also includes weight.

2. By eating more vegetables, you will be consuming more fiber, vitamins and minerals. Also take a good multivitamin (without iron) and check with your doctor if you need additional supplements (a simple blood test will tell). Vitamin deficiencies can interfere with weight loss.

What I have seen on the Board is that people who do not have a lot to lose and are not very metabolically resistant tend to stall when extending their Induction. For those who have little to lose and/or have a low-average degree of metabolic resistance, Dr. Atkins wrote that the appropriate thing to do is to move to OWL after the first two weeks of Induction.

another question, should do 20g a day or 15g a day as i feel maybe im resistant to metobalism?

You are not metabolically resistant just because you don't lose weight as fast as you want. If that's how things would go, we'd all be metabolically resistant.

You determine your degree of metabolic resistance from the chart in Chapter 13 (p. 158, "How to Keep it Going") of DANDR 2002. Do you have the book? Otherwise here's the link to the charts: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...-ace-ccll.html

[fairmount]

Re: anybody there? am dying of guilt!

yeah maan, eating is like a reward and not eating is like a punishment, hehe, but it shouldnt be. im used to now not wanting to eat chochlate while people are eating. im okay with that. and yeah, i wont think about these two days anymore and will concentrate of the future. who cares if the food isnt as tasty as it can be with all that other carbs in it. once im thin and healthy, i can be a normal person again wiht a controlled diet "food should be a necessity not a want."