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  • Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

    My wife and I both need to lose 40lbs to get to a non-obese BMI. I have been just miserable for the last two years. A year ago I took off about 12 lbs with exercise and a low-fat diet. But I got tired of feeling hungry all the time, and failed, eventually putting all that weight back on.

    In the meanwhile, my mother had a huge success with Atkins. I started reading about it and found these forums. I then casually talked to my wife about doing Atkins on and off for months. She did (still does) not want to give up her grains. But she had no other suggestions or plans for a solution and so we both continued to be obese.

    About 6-7 weeks ago I finally decided to make a go of Atkins alone, for my own health. I told her she could do and eat what she wanted, but that I was no longer having grains, legumes, starches, or sweets. I began preparing my own meals, and would politely refuse to eat most of what my wife wanted to prepare for her and the kids, including most of our previous favorite restaurant choices. This made her feel guilty and/or angry.

    After I had some initial success, I asked for her to please join me, not to only support me, but to do it for her own health as well. She CRIED when I asked this of her, and even after witnessing my success she continued to be resistant and even critical of the diet. I offered her a copy of the book but she refused to read it. It has been just awful to see her feeling guilty, angry and struggling to choose between a loaf of bread vs. supporting me while doing something healthy for herself.

    I did not push the issue and let her think about it, making it clear that I was going to continue on with Atkins. After several days, she very reluctantly agreed to give it a try. I was just as supportive and complimentary as I could be once she agreed to give it a shot, but I've heard nothing but complaining for weeks.

    To make it as easy as possible for her, I have done all of the meal planning, grocery shopping, and cooking, including cooking a "normal" diet for our two sons which was a major concern for her. This has made it relatively easy for her to follow the regimen, but this is all starting to wear on me. It is very difficult and frustrating to manage all this while going through my own set of challenges related to doing Atkins. If it weren't for my own success losing 16lbs and 2 inches off my waistline so far, I would have certainly given up already.

    To her credit, she did take the plunge and has stuck with it for the most part, for three weeks. But she continues to say that she isn't committed to Atkins and wants to be able to have breads, pastas, and rice.

    I am hoping that some of you veterans can share your experiences in this area and maybe give some advice. While I understand that the low carb WOE is a drastic lifestyle change, I am very hurt at her reaction to my choice to do Atkins, and have now become angry about the situation myself. I need to forgive her but am finding it difficult.

  • #2
    Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

    Wow, you really are committed (to both your wife and this WOE) to keep up like that. Well done! What I'd personally do is try to make her feel more in control alongside you... Perhaps show her some before & after pictures in that forum? Also, show her Linda's Low Carb Recipes: Linda's Low Carb Menus & Recipes - Recipes I find it always fun to look for tasty and surprising recipes. Best of luck to you!

    Start date: 03/14/09
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    • #3
      Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

      She wants her cake and to have it too... You can not force someone to have the passion that you have about losing weight and getting healthy. Even if she is losing weight and perhaps feeling better, if in her mind she is being forced, once she gets fed up and quits, it will have all been for nothing as she will gain the weight back and make you feel guilty for having put her through such deprivation to begin with.

      I know you think you need support, but you are strong enough to do this on your own. There are others out here that will support you. We very much want you to get healthy and we will help you any way we can towards that goal.

      My mother did Atkins with me and after 45 days she quit. She missed her cereal and really hated meat. The diet just wasn't for her... I felt abandoned and considered giving up, but I wanted to be thinner so bad, that I found the will within myself to continue on. She still asks me continually, 'how much weight have you lost' which drives me nuts, but she made her decision, and I have to respect that. She is an adult, and she has to live with her decisions.

      The next time your wife says something negative, express to her how much it hurts you that she isn't supportive of you, no matter what you are doing. Ask her if she wants to quit. If she says no, ask her politely to stop being so negative about it. If she does want to quit, wish her well and stay on track. Perhaps when you get healthy and are able to do all the things you wish to do, she will wisen up and find it within herself to want what you want.

      We can only be responsible for ourselves. I know how much you want her to want what you want... but she has to want it for herself... not to just please you.
      F/46/5'2" - 249/198/115
      Start Date 03/06/09

      Mini goals:
      1st - 25 lbs down - Met 06/19/09
      2nd - Onederland - Met 03/10/10
      3rd - 75 lbs down
      4th - size 12
      5th - BMI 21



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      • #4
        Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

        The education component to Atkins is key and while you can't make her read DANDR 2002, make sure she understands that there are rungs to the "OWL" or Ongoing Weight Loss Ladder, the second part of Atkins. She only needs to do the Induction for two weeks and then can starting adding 5 carbs at a time as she moves of the Ongoing Weight Loss ladder.

        I know the challenges of a husband and wife who don't want to follow the same food plan. My husband was charming and tolerant initially on Atkins with me and he lost a lot of weight. Five years later, although I'm doing maintenance now, I still have an induction friendly dinner every evening. Just a habit that I maintain.

        Best wishes to you and your wife. If it is any help, my husband is delighted at the person I have become and remains supportive of the choices I make in my eating.

        When you are alone in your head, you are in a bad neighborhood.
        Start:494/current:170
        Began Atkins 1/4/2004

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        • #5
          Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

          YouTube - Atkins Diet: How should spouses / partners support weight loss activities?

          That was a video I did a year ago on the same topic as I wondered how to support to family members who may or may not have been in the same place or motivation to lose weight as I was.
          Kent - 35-M-6'4"
          HW 429/SW 411/CW 229/GW 225
          Started 3-31-04 - 211 Total pounds down (was 21

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          • #6
            Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

            good video kent, i especially like the part where you say guys should give support for their spouse by doing housework for them so they can go exercise, .
            jarrod i feel your pain and i'm sure my husband has too. i have been the stubborn wife in the past. i've been on the wagon and then i've jumped off of it again. all i can say is hopefully, if she does lose some weight with atkins, she'll see it works. it took me a few years to accept this. i lost alot of weight when i got serious with atkins. then i fell off and gained alot of it back. i thought i could excersise it away, but with what i'd eat, it would never be enough. i thought i could wake up in the morning and just 'watch what i'd eat' and at the end of the day i'd be crying having watched myself eat all day long! finally frustration and determination took over. i realized that for me, atkins is the only healthy way i'm going to lose this weight. that as much as i love bread, i just can't eat it right now and if in the future i can have it again, it's going to be the most delicious, whole grain bread i can find, not some piece of wonderbread crap. i hope she finds the atkins light, just be supportive, it's something she has to realize herself though. stay strong man!

            restarted 7/23/09 HW 338/SW 280/ CW 261.2/ GW 185 37yrs/5'11

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            • #7
              Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

              by what you said il take it that she feeds the kids pasta and such too?

              do what you can to stop this helpless kids dont deserve to be posioned

              make sure that she knows pasta and such is posion

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              • #8
                Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                Originally posted by ziggy View Post
                by what you said il take it that she feeds the kids pasta and such too?

                do what you can to stop this helpless kids dont deserve to be posioned

                make sure that she knows pasta and such is posion
                You're kidding right? Yeah, that will surely make Jarrod's wife come around. Not.

                Pasta is not poison nor is bread or many other grains. The problem is that so much of our food is junk and full of chemicals. And the typical US diet is off the charts portion-wise.

                Balance is out of whack in the typical US diet too. Not enough veggies, tons of sugar, too much fast or processed food.

                Many successful Atkins followers enjoy pasta when they reach OWL rung 9 or Maintenance. Personally, I'm looking forward to my buckwheat Soba noodles again someday as well as my homemade whole grain breads.
                Female, 54, 5'6" START DATE: 22JUL09




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                • #9
                  Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                  Originally posted by Kent View Post
                  YouTube - Atkins Diet: How should spouses / partners support weight loss activities?

                  That was a video I did a year ago on the same topic as I wondered how to support to family members who may or may not have been in the same place or motivation to lose weight as I was.
                  @4:50... that is exactly what my mom does. At least once a week our chats (we live in different countries, so we chat online) start with, "So how much do you weigh now?"
                  "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

                  -- Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #10
                    Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                    Originally posted by mizski View Post
                    You're kidding right? Yeah, that will surely make Jarrod's wife come around. Not.

                    Pasta is not poison nor is bread or many other grains. The problem is that so much of our food is junk and full of chemicals. And the typical US diet is off the charts portion-wise.

                    Balance is out of whack in the typical US diet too. Not enough veggies, tons of sugar, too much fast or processed food.

                    Many successful Atkins followers enjoy pasta when they reach OWL rung 9 or Maintenance. Personally, I'm looking forward to my buckwheat Soba noodles again someday as well as my homemade whole grain breads.
                    well i mostly ment white flour pasta but i should have said that lol

                    and ya nothing i can think of will help his wife come around so i thought well atleast he can help his kids

                    i also was thinking of saying some other things but didnt feel they would help him much like one was i have tried for years to get my mom to eat healthy atkins but she always holds it off or says she will do it later she has crones disease and prob other gut problems as well so it amazes me how she is so reluctant to even give it a chance

                    but il admit i feel she is thinking about trying it more than she would have in the past due to all the great effects i have got from it

                    and my dad started eating less carbs a little while back although its not atkins but im sure sooner or later it will be when he gets around to doing it properly


                    also my freind at the gym told me about this guy he knew who was a vegan and the guy said that eating animals is unclean and he never even ate chicken eggs he was 100% vegan also his wife was the one who got him into all that but anyways he ended up in the hospital and the doctors had to put him on a high protein diet but now that its over and after all that he still chooses to be vegan

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                    • #11
                      Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                      Jarrod...
                      Good for you... and good for you working with your wife. I am a firm believer that having that support system, of the person who loves you most, is what relaly does help.
                      I do not know where I would be without my wife! on this diet, and without her, but.. I also feel some of your same pains... she has been a little on and off the diet to her, but still she has been supporting me along the way!

                      good luck! keep strong!

                      marriage is bliss! I LOVE MY WIFE!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                        Thank you all for the advice. Kent, the video is really helpful, thanks.

                        We've discussed it further, and came to the agreement to let me do the meal planning and she'll cook it. So I gave her a bunch of induction-safe recipes and asked her to make them.

                        She made lunch - chicken eggdrop soup thickened with cornstarch. OK, I tell her politely that isn't legal and that she could have used one of the recipes I gave her. She said she "thought it would be OK since it was just one tablespoon". I ate it anyway since she seemed to at least making an effort and I don't want to hurt her feelings.

                        Then, last night we are eating dinner (a grilled hamburger and some broccoli salad), and she informs me that she put breadcrumbs in the hamburger meat - "only" 4 carbs per serving...that can't hurt, right?

                        I admit that after the second meal in a row - some of the first ones she's cooked in awhile - I took it poorly. I shouted and carried on for 2-3 minutes straight. Not too proud of it, but after working on this so hard the frustration was just too much. She claims she didn't know it wasn't to plan - I don't believe she could be that stupid but since she refuses to read the book what can I say?

                        It seems clear to me now that she is (subconciously?) trying to sabotage the diet. I don't know why she would do that, but the evidence is in. I don't know what to do next.

                        FRUSTRATING!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                          Oh Jarrod,

                          I'm so sorry. What feeling did you get from her during your discussion?

                          It's obvious that you are going to have to fly solo and cook your own meals and be responsible for yourself in order to get to where you want to be. Sad, but true.

                          "Food" is just going to have to be something that you agree to not agree on.

                          And Don't Apologize for wanting to be healthier. Apologize for forcing her to want what you want... Always good to work a little guilt into the make-up process...
                          F/46/5'2" - 249/198/115
                          Start Date 03/06/09

                          Mini goals:
                          1st - 25 lbs down - Met 06/19/09
                          2nd - Onederland - Met 03/10/10
                          3rd - 75 lbs down
                          4th - size 12
                          5th - BMI 21



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                          • #14
                            Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                            Maybe though she won't read the whole book you can print out the list of the induction-allowed foods for her and the rules of induction, so she has a crib-sheet to work from?
                            There are two sticky threads in the Atkins Diet FAQ forum with these so you can copy/print them out.
                            Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                            Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                            Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                            F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                            • #15
                              Re: Getting support, and supporting your significant other....

                              well i'd have to say following a recipe would seem pretty clear. maybe some habits are hard to break, like the cornstarch to thicken and the breadcrumbs to patty the hamburgers, maybe she feels it won't taste good unless she adds those things, not true of course! to be completely safe, you're going to have to make your own food. i'd say these two incidents aren't huge, but over time they could add up and slow down weight loss. i think all you can do is stay strong and maybe in time she'll come around.

                              restarted 7/23/09 HW 338/SW 280/ CW 261.2/ GW 185 37yrs/5'11

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