Eco-Atkins?

[RitaCeleste]

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Yes, and my other complaint about the vegetarians I have known was some of them didn't eat in a way to get complete proteins and splurge for more nuts and things to help make it good nutrition. The ones I knew acted like their diet was healthy, but they ended up not looking so hot. They dropped weight in some cases but lost a lot of muscle tone and didn't seem to look healthy either. Of course I was evil and didn't love animals or the planet. However they wouldn't walk in a thrift store to save their lives or wear anything without a designer lable. And don't get me started on the gas they burned! So yeah, they were sloppy vegetarians in more ways than one! They ate a lot of cheaper foods, beans being the best of the lot and pasta way more often than not. I just had serious concerns about their health because of how they looked. I've felt similar things about people who cut their fat way down too, because some of them looked like they were doing something way wrong too. If you aren't eating right, it shows more often than not. But its kinda wrong for me to lable all vegetarians like that. I have an aunt who was doing it right and she looked pretty good the whole time. Her I wasn't worried about.

[atkinsgal08]

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In reading (again) the article I posted from Atkins.com, I think ANI is saying that it's possible to eat healthy vegetarian and do low carb. Whether or not they endorse the term "eco Atkins" ... hard to know.

[runawayllama]

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I'm looking at the Morning Star veggie italian style sausage and it's only 6 carbs....as for the ingredients, I can read every single one of them. The only ones that don't look like actual "food" are the preservatives and whatnot. Seems perfectly healthy and low enough carb to me.

....just sayin'....

[susan423]

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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. Call it a vegetarian diet, call it a "controlled carb" diet, but please don't call it Alkins! No wonder so many folks get confused about what Atkins is.
Yes, All that processed soy crap made me go yuk. Dr. Atkins is probaly rolling over in his grave about now.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>I'm looking at the Morning Star veggie italian style sausage and it's only 6 carbs...>>

TEXTURED VEGETABLE PROTEIN (WHEAT GLUTEN, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WATER FOR HYDRATION), WATER, CORN OIL, INULIN FROM CHICORY ROOT, CONTAINS TWO PERCENT OR LESS OF SPICES, SALT, DEXTROSE, NATURAL FLAVORS, MALTODEXTRIN, AUTOLYZED YEAST EXTRACT, HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, CARAMEL COLOR, SUGAR, PAPRIKA (FOR COLOR), GARLIC POWDER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH, YEAST EXTRACT, MALIC ACID, TRICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, ASCORBIC ACID, NIACINAMIDE, ONION POWDER, SKIM MILK, EGG WHITES, IRON (FERROUS SULFATE), HYDROLYZED TORULA AND BREWER'S YEAST, SOY LECITHIN, THIAMIN MONONITRATE (VITAMIN B1), HYDROLYZED WHEAT GLUTEN, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6), RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), VITAMIN B12

Lots of sugar there!

And there's more carbs than real sausage!

[atkinsgal08]

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And hydrolyzed ... sounds "yummy"!

Hydrolysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To me, it's a "frankenfood" and I wouldn't consider it "healthy".

[runawayllama]

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Less than 1g per sausage....not the point.. I was simply stating IF one would like to do low carb AND vegetarian, it appears to be possible.

[liv]

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This page
Morningstar Farms - Morningstar Farms Veggie Italian Style Sausage
Says it has 7 carbs and one fiber.
But I have seen worse list of ingredients in stuff that people on Atkins is eating. I don't think the diet is always the problem as much as those who follow it as some said above. You can make good choices and not so good choices whereever you are. Some people who says they eat Atkins eat really horribly (according to my standards, that is )

[I AM BEAN]

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Read the same mag as you. Just seems not as extreme. Chicken instead of beef. Inspired me to try atkins again.

[liv]

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Are you trying real Atkins or some diet from a magazine that post one different thing every week and at one time endorsed a diet where the founder used Russian mail order bride pictures to "prove" that the diet worked for her?

[Georgiana]

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Read the same mag as you. Just seems not as extreme. Chicken instead of beef. Inspired me to try atkins again.

A bit of a hijack... but, on Atkins, your source of protein does not have to be red meat. You can choose from beef, pork, fish, chicken, turkey, veal, shellfish, etc. And you do realize that Atkins is a high fat diet, not high protein... right?

Also, according to the Atkins website they endorse this new plan.

Everyone here knows how anti-bars/shakes I am... but I think endorsing a dietary plan that was only studied for 4 weeks would be a very stupid thing for Atkins Nutritionals to do. Especially considering that they weren't involved in the development of Eco-Atkins. I believe all they are saying in their article is that the Eco-Atkins study is another proof that lowering one's carbohydrate intake has positive effects on one's health. And then they are pointing out how much cooler Atkins (the real Atkins) is compared to any other diet, incl. Eco-Atkins: "Atkins is the only time-tested and scientifically validated program in existence."

In my opinion, the study is pretty poor. And calling it "Eco-Atkins" is like comparing an orange with a head of cauliflower to see which one makes a better tennis ball substitute.

[not2late]

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My thoughts on doing an "eco"-Atkins is that you can do it by following DANDR 2002 and by askewing the highly processed, preservative laden foods. That is, you eat whole, natural minimally processed foods. You eat seasonal locally grown vegetables and fruits (or grow them yourself!) If you can find a local source of meat, poultry, fish, eggs and dairy, you use that.

Doing that is more "eco-friendly" than purchasing a box of soy burgers produced 2000 miles away and transported in trucks across the country to your grocery store shelf.

I was a low fat vegetarian/vegan. I didn't eat the processed vegetarian stuff because I didn't think they tasted any good: afterall, if I wanted a vegan burger, I could make one up that was tastier than the stuff in the supermarket (for a cheaper price too!) And I managed to gain weight because I was always hungry. It didn't matter if I ate rice and beans or beans and pasta or if I got 30 grams of fiber per day---I was always hungry.

The animal rights activists have an agenda to push. If they had it their way, no one would eat/use/produce any kind of animal product--including things that we seldom think of as animal products like bees wax or natural dyes.

[Suzanne_H]

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I browsed that article as well. It seems to me that the South Beach diet would be more akin to their meal plan than Atkins. I'm no expert, though...