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    hey guys,

    I have lost 15 lbs so far, and am 15 away from my goal. Its been over two months, and i have stuck close to induction level carbs, I dont have the time to measure each item, so i find it safe to stay between 25-30 g carbs.

    I have added more veggies,
    some dairy products although Not really, maybe some cream once in a while in my cofee, WHen ever I introduce a new item to my diet I get paranoid and check my weight everyday.. .

    anyways I recently introduce 3 strawberries and every other day, and maybe a bryer carb smart once every three days. till last week I have lost weight every week. and it seems like I have stalled and I think I even gained a pound, well maybe not as One can weight different at diff times a day.

    My ketostix is still purple, so is it possible that I have stalled yet im still in ketosis just not burning weight ?

  • #2
    Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

    Yep, it happens to the best of us. It's called PISS. Really. Here's a helpful link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFEjJ9gsgik For me it usually happens around week 5, but everyone is different.

    T. J.
    "...Health and fitness are more than just personal goals - they're gifts we give to the people around us. Being fit and feeling on top of our game will ensure that we're there for the people who rely on us. It will make us better fathers, husbands, friends, lovers... and yes, even better sons." -David Zinczenko -Mens Health Magazine
    39M/Married with two wonderful kids
    Mini goal #1 - 225 1/16/2010
    Mini goal #2 - Stick with this WOE until 1/31/10
    Mini goal #3 - 214 No longer obese
    Mini goal #4 - Stick with this WOE until 2/28/10
    Mini goal #5 - Stick with this WOE until 3/31/10
    Mini goal #6 - 199
    Mini goal #7 - Survive Easter on plan
    Mini goal #8 - Stick with this WOE until 6/30/10

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    • #3
      Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

      1) Are you measuring? Have you changed in inches? This is not uncommon - no weight change but losing inches!
      2) Dr. Atkins defined a stall as no change in weight OR measurements for four weeks. What you describe is not really a stall. Weight loss isn't linear, you'll have a week or two here and there with no visible change. It's usually nothing to sweat.
      3) Are you doing the Atkins plan, or just a generic low carb plan? What you describe sounds like generic low carb rather than actually following Atkins. Here we follow Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution (2002) so all of our advice will be based upon the plan detailed in the book.
      Jackie - Misplaced Missouri Girl, now in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada!

      Lost 15 pounds 9/18/08-01/08/09, Ended on OWL Rung 6 (had a baby!)
      Restarted Induction 11/30/09

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      • #4
        Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

        Originally posted by Skeptika23 View Post
        1)
        3) Are you doing the Atkins plan, or just a generic low carb plan? What you describe sounds like generic low carb rather than actually following Atkins.
        Jackie is right on with this as usual You seem to be doing your own thing.
        "...Health and fitness are more than just personal goals - they're gifts we give to the people around us. Being fit and feeling on top of our game will ensure that we're there for the people who rely on us. It will make us better fathers, husbands, friends, lovers... and yes, even better sons." -David Zinczenko -Mens Health Magazine
        39M/Married with two wonderful kids
        Mini goal #1 - 225 1/16/2010
        Mini goal #2 - Stick with this WOE until 1/31/10
        Mini goal #3 - 214 No longer obese
        Mini goal #4 - Stick with this WOE until 2/28/10
        Mini goal #5 - Stick with this WOE until 3/31/10
        Mini goal #6 - 199
        Mini goal #7 - Survive Easter on plan
        Mini goal #8 - Stick with this WOE until 6/30/10

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        • #5
          Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

          Originally posted by tfek70 View Post
          Jackie is right on with this as usual You seem to be doing your own thing.
          My husband does his own thing, and is losing weight. Not knocking it... but it's just not what we do here.
          Jackie - Misplaced Missouri Girl, now in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada!

          Lost 15 pounds 9/18/08-01/08/09, Ended on OWL Rung 6 (had a baby!)
          Restarted Induction 11/30/09

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          • #6
            Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

            Originally posted by ahmerkhan View Post
            i have stuck close to induction level carbs, I dont have the time to measure each item, so i find it safe to stay between 25-30 g carbs.
            This way you'll never determine your CCLL... which is one thing one should do in OWL.

            And how do you know how many net carbs you're consuming if you're not measuring?

            I recently introduce 3 strawberries
            Do you know how many net carbs are in those 3 strawberries?

            I recently introduce 3 strawberries and every other day, and maybe a bryer carb smart once every three days.
            If you're trying to do OWL... you're not doing it right.

            till last week I have lost weight every week
            There's no rule that says you need to lose weekly or even monthly.

            You're not stalled. A stall is defined as 4 consecutive weeks without loss of pounds or inches.

            And did you take body measurements?

            maybe not as One can weight different at diff times a day
            Why not weigh in the morning, before eating?

            My ketostix is still purple, so is it possible that I have stalled yet im still in ketosis just not burning weight ?
            You can be in ketosis without shedding body fat. There are also a bunch of other possible reasons why the scale didn't go down this week.

            Read Chapter 14 in Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution (2002). Follow OWL correctly. Then we can troubleshoot if you really have problems losing.

            But if you're not following the diet correctly in the first place... *shrug*
            "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

            -- Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #7
              Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

              >>am 15 away from my goal.>>

              Staying on Induction, or at Induction level carbs, is very often counter-productive.

              A stall is defined as no weight or inches lost for 4 weeks.

              You should be on pre-maintenance with 5-10 pounds until "goal".

              Moving to OWL would be in your best interests.
              J.

              "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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              • #8
                Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                i guess your right, I seem to be doing my own thing that resembles Atkins.. Im going to start with rung 3 berries since I have already introduce rung one Veggies, and rung two aged chese and cream into my diet. Its just hard to eat a set number of carbs. I can stay below, because I usally have a limited amount of things I eat.. (meaning same thing everyday).. I usually make kabobs and freeze them, or grilled chicken and freze it, and then microwave and eat. Thats how I know I am staying below my carb amount. THe reason I dont want to follow atkins exactly is because alot of the things on the Rung i dont eat anyway,so why do i need to introduce them into my diet? I dont eat beans as it gives me acid reflux, I dont eat penuts unless it was on ice cream of some sort.

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                • #9
                  Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                  If I may offer you advice - I recommend that you do the actual Atkins plan, from scratch, from the start. I make this recommendation because the issue you're struggling with is relatively easily dealt with as you work the actual Atkins plan.

                  Unless you have some religious or dietary reason to avoid a lot of the induction veggies - speaking from personal experience, your palate and tastes change when you do Atkins.

                  For example - I hated cheese except in context of pizza before I started Atkins. Now I am a DEVOTEE of hard sharp cheeses - the stinkier and more flavorful the better.

                  Why not give it a try, doing it the right way? The only thing you have to lose are those stubborn pounds!
                  Jackie - Misplaced Missouri Girl, now in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada!

                  Lost 15 pounds 9/18/08-01/08/09, Ended on OWL Rung 6 (had a baby!)
                  Restarted Induction 11/30/09

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                  • #10
                    Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                    ok, I will give it a try and start from induction again.

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                    • #11
                      Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                      >>Its just hard to eat a set number of carbs.>>

                      Isn't it harder to not know what's going on?
                      J.

                      "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                      • #12
                        Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                        >>THe reason I dont want to follow atkins exactly is because alot of the things on the Rung i dont eat anyway,so why do i need to introduce them into my diet? I dont eat beans as it gives me acid reflux, I dont eat penuts unless it was on ice cream of some sort.>>

                        You don't have to eat beans.

                        You don't have to eat peanuts.

                        You can still do Atkins without eating foods that cause you trouble.

                        Me ... I don't eat mushrooms ... and I'm still "doing Atkins"!
                        J.

                        "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                        • #13
                          Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                          This is the first sticky in the OWL forum. http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...te-ladder.html It tells you how to do OWL and move up the rungs. Particularly important in this great post is what to do if you aren't going to eat from that particular rung. Hopefully this helps. I don't plan on hitting all of the rungs either, but that smart Dr. Atkins has a plan for us too.
                          "...Health and fitness are more than just personal goals - they're gifts we give to the people around us. Being fit and feeling on top of our game will ensure that we're there for the people who rely on us. It will make us better fathers, husbands, friends, lovers... and yes, even better sons." -David Zinczenko -Mens Health Magazine
                          39M/Married with two wonderful kids
                          Mini goal #1 - 225 1/16/2010
                          Mini goal #2 - Stick with this WOE until 1/31/10
                          Mini goal #3 - 214 No longer obese
                          Mini goal #4 - Stick with this WOE until 2/28/10
                          Mini goal #5 - Stick with this WOE until 3/31/10
                          Mini goal #6 - 199
                          Mini goal #7 - Survive Easter on plan
                          Mini goal #8 - Stick with this WOE until 6/30/10

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                          • #14
                            Re: stalling and in Ketosis possible ?

                            Originally posted by ahmerkhan View Post
                            I will give it a try and start from induction again.
                            With 15 lbs left to lose, my opinion is that you should not go back to Induction. "Starting" with OWL Rung 1 (which is just like Induction, but with 5 net carbs more of vegetables) should be fine... especially if you lost weight before eating 25 net carbs.

                            rung 3 berries
                            OWL Rung 3 is nuts, not berries. Of course, you're free to skip nuts if nuts don't work for you.
                            "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

                            -- Theodore Roosevelt

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