Frustrated Diabetic

[forbey]

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131 grams of protein, that's like 4 ounces... for the entire DAY?

If that is right, I'm way over that.

[2big4mysize]

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5 weeks is not exactly a long time to resensitize your resistant cells so keep going.. have you plugged your foods into something like fitday.com so you can see exactly how much protein fat and carbs you are eating each day.

I forgot to ask but when do you check your blood sugars? several times a day? in the morning only or after you eat only?

[2big4mysize]

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131 grams of protein, that's like 4 ounces... for the entire DAY?

If that is right, I'm way over that.

that is grams of pure protein not grams of a protein containing food.

[forbey]

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5 weeks is not exactly a long time to resensitize your resistant cells so keep going.. have you plugged your foods into something like fitday.com so you can see exactly how much protein fat and carbs you are eating each day.

I forgot to ask but when do you check your blood sugars? several times a day? in the morning only or after you eat only?

I wasn't sure how long it would take. The numbers are coming down slowly.

Test: Fasting AM; bedtime.

[forbey]

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that is grams of pure protein not grams of a protein containing food.

A 5 oz can of tuna in water contains 13 grams of protein per serving (2 servings per can.) I can eat 2 cans of tuna on a salad (I've been known to open 2 cans at my desk and eat it out of the can!)

[Dryunderwater]

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Hello Forbey,

I feel like your water intake reply came across as a little bit snippy and I'm sure it has to do with feeling attacked or frustrated, or at least I hope so, as I was not in any way, shape or form attempting to get that type of response out of you.

You expressed that you don't like it when posters treat you that way and I would expect that you would not in turn react in the same fashion.

I am just a person with an opinion (everyone has one) and encouragement (not alot have this though) that I am trying to share with you, no more and no less, so please don't be offended or upset by anything I have shared. However, if you are, I apologize as that is not my nature in any way.

Again, best wishes....

[2big4mysize]

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I wasn't sure how long it would take. The numbers are coming down slowly.

Test: Fasting AM; bedtime.

have you checked it about an hour after a meal and right before to see how your body is responding to the low carb atkins legal meal you are eating? since you have AM high and PM high you could think of that as your baseline to see if atkins is helping or not. if your after meal is controlled and not a huge spike then you know it is your medical condition needing tweaking and your eating is doing what it should.

Does that make sense? also do you have what is known as the dawn phenome? where you blood glucose goes up on its own cause your body does something to increase it? some diabetics have it and some don't. if you got it it could be effecting how well you think your body has improved since you do an AM fasting test but nothing during the day

[2big4mysize]

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A 5 oz can of tuna in water contains 13 grams of protein per serving (2 servings per can.) I can eat 2 cans of tuna on a salad (I've been known to open 2 cans at my desk and eat it out of the can!)

think about your body as car engine. you want to figure out what fuel "octane" you need and then refuel with that grade every time to balance out your blood glucose so you will need to divide your daily protein intake and carb intake up into how every you eat. if you do 3 meals then you want 1/3 of each at each feeding.

if you do 4 meals then you want 1/4th at each. if you are a grazer then you want 1/6th at each feeding. that should help you get a stable blood sugar reaction to each feeding and allow your body to become more sensetive to the smaller amounts of insulin and glucose.

do you space your meds out during the day or all at one time?

[forbey]

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Hello Forbey,

I feel like your water intake reply came across as a little bit snippy and I'm sure it has to do with feeling attacked or frustrated, or at least I hope so, as I was not in any way, shape or form attempting to get that type of response out of you.


You expressed that you don't like it when posters treat you that way and I would expect that you would not in turn react in the same fashion.


I am just a person with an opinion (everyone has one) and encouragement (not alot have this though) that I am trying to share with you, no more and no less, so please don't be offended or upset by anything I have shared. However, if you are, I apologize as that is not my nature in any way.


Again, best wishes....

NO, not intended as snippy, not in the least bit. I tend to be a bit of a smart aleck, but it was not intended to be snippy.

Water intake is not, nor has it ever been a problem. In an earlier entry I calculated, that, at a minimum I'm consuming 191 oz of water daily. One of the side effects of diabetes is the inability to pass a water fountain without stopping, that has been a blessing on Atkins.Sometimes I feel like I'm drowning from the inside out!

You interpreted that correctly, and I certainly apologize if it came across as such.

I make it a habit of NOT getting offended, but I see a big difference between being offended and irritated (or worse) which was the case earlier. I haven't read anything in your entries that would be taken as offensive. Seriously!

[forbey]

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think about your body as car engine. you want to figure out what fuel "octane" you need and then refuel with that grade every time to balance out your blood glucose so you will need to divide your daily protein intake and carb intake up into how every you eat. if you do 3 meals then you want 1/3 of each at each feeding.

if you do 4 meals then you want 1/4th at each. if you are a grazer then you want 1/6th at each feeding. that should help you get a stable blood sugar reaction to each feeding and allow your body to become more sensetive to the smaller amounts of insulin and glucose.

do you space your meds out during the day or all at one time?

Breakfast is usually around 6:30 am; Lunch noon; dinner around 7 pm. Snacks would be around 10 am and 4 pm.

You mean I have to divide 1/5th of a can of tuna into 5 parts, I'm not sure I can even figure that one out, LOL!

[forbey]

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2big4mysize:

Frequently, I can go to bed with a bg of 225 and wake up with a bg of 320.

I usually do not test after meals. When using a sliding scale I would test before a meal, but not after.

[2big4mysize]

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you are making this harder then you need to if you eat 3 meals and 2 snacks you would do something like 4 portions and dived one between each snack. since the calculated protein need based on your weight is 131 grams a day you'd want about 33 grams of protein each meal and 16 at each snack. since you are staying under 20 grams of carbs you need to have 5 at each meal and 2.5 at each snack and the remaining cals would be from pure fats.

so if you have tuna in water (to make the calculations easy) a can based on your earlier post about protein grams in it would be 13 of your allotted grams of protein. since there has been a warning about heavy metals in tuna you might not want to eat more then one can a day so you could have something else for the rest of your protein for the meal something eggs in the tuna salad you are making or some cheese and call it a tuna melt. if you added chopped celery to your salad or some tomato then you'd ahve your carbs for the meal too.

you are going to have to play around on something like fitday to figure out how much of a serving you need of what to make your blood sugar happy and the body parts that need glucose happy and your total cals happy to keep your body from slowing your metabolism even more.

[2big4mysize]

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have you experimented with your eating times to see if eating earlier or later has an effect on your higher AM blood sugars?

[forbey]

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Sometimes it seems like making it harder is the only way I know. That being said, I went one step too far on the math. 131 g protein... one can of tuna is 26 g protein. So technically, I could eat the equivalent of 5 cans of tuna.

I converted grams to oz and then looked at the can and compared apples to oranges, neither of which is allowed during Induction.

Rush, rush, rush and there still isn't enough to get it done!

[forbey]

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have you experimented with your eating times to see if eating earlier or later has an effect on your higher AM blood sugars?

I work 10 hour days with a one way 45 minute drive to work. Eating after 6:30 am (which is frequently on the way to work) and after I get home 6:30 pm, is hard to arrange. Friday, Saturday and Sunday I can be more flexible.