Somebody please consider making this a sticky and recommended reading for old and new members alike:
Why do people gather to a bulletin board like ADBB?
It is simple enough, for SUPPORT! To put themselves in a place where others understand what they are going through. To get answers to questions to questions on the particular subject of the board. To seek out new friends. The list goes on...
Yet, it seems that, no matter what the subject of the bulletin board, forum or chat group, there are always those who, TO ME, seem to have the wrong understanding of the purpose of the board.
I have read through, made replies and asked questions during the past week that I have been on the board. During that time I have had seen people give wrong information and make statements contrary to the writings of the author of DANDR.
I've seen people's comments that ranged from polite, friendly and helpful to downright rude, hateful and wrong.
While I want those who have been on the side of the scale from moderately neutral all the way to polite, friendly and helpful to understand how much I appreciate their past, present and future contributions on behalf of those, like me, who come along and decide to sign on the the Atkins Plan, this thread IS NOT about you. So please do not take this as such.
My concern is about those who lean towards the rude, hateful and wrong side of the scale all the way to those who make up the base line for the category.
I've seen comments that, as I read them, are downright mean spirited. They are ended with comments like "If I seem hard, it's because I've been there." Or, I have seen statements like "I don't mean to be rude, but..."
The problem with the word "but" in statements like those is they cancel out the first part of the statement AND let you know that the speaker,,,IS ABOUT TO BE RUDE!
I had one member here, listed as an ADBB Admiral (yes they will probably figure out who I am talking about) say in a thread the testing your ketones with strips may give you a false reading caused by the glucose in your urine.
This is blatantly and scientifically FALSE! When challenged on the statement blew it off. When it was explained that Keto Stix DO NOT test for glucose, I repeat they do not react to glucose, the only response was a simple "yes."
For those advocates of the TOUGH LOVE philosophy, I recommend renting and watching the movie "Only the Lonely" (John Candy and Maureen O'Hara to see the effects of just telling it like it is.
Over the years I have had the opportunity to read 3 of Dr. Atkins books. I have had the opportunity to see interviews by him from the early 80s till not so long before his death. Not once, NOT A SINGLE TIME, do I recall reading him as mean, unfriendly or rude. Not one time do I recall seeing him on TV where he didn't have a smile on his face and a positive desire for those in need of his knowledge.
So why, would anybody use this bulletin board, designed to expand his work and his program, for the purpose of beating down anyone who is trying to succeed in changing their lifestyle, even if it done in the spirit of "hard truth."
I would guess that the MAJORITY of the members on this board are here because they were, or are seeking a better, more healthier lifestyle. Some started with less of a challenge while others come with life threatening health issues and/or morbid obesity. (I am one of the more serious, health wise.)
For all, I would ask as you make your entries to the newbies of the group and to those simply asking questions to fine tune their personal program, that you write your reply, then go back and read it and ask yourself, if someone spoke to me this way would I be more likely to abandon the plan, abandon the board, cry or punch you in the nose. Then either hit "Submit" or go back and modify the entry to make it more "User Friendly."
Absolutely everyone who feels they don't look good in their own skin, who don't feel good in the daily lives are already experiencing conditions that can result in depression, sensitive and self conscious, they can feel trapped and alone. So why would anyone having success with Atkins intentionally do anything that might force them to abandon their efforts to save themselves, run from this board back to the bad habits of their previously unsuccessful life style, or just feel like they were unnecessarily abused?
Those who have had success making the change to Atkins, owe the good Dr. for providing a way to change their own lives for the better. So use what you have learned to help those just getting started to make the same lifesaving change.
For those whose comments bring hope and a little sunshine to members who might be unable to get their Atkins plan kicked in or those who might have reached a sticking point. I offer a big THANKS!
To those who do not, my suggestion is to increase your fiber, put a smile on your face and and rejoin the forum with a better attitude, or just learn to keep your comments to yourself! (Just telling it like it is!)
forbey
Why do people gather to a bulletin board like ADBB?
It is simple enough, for SUPPORT! To put themselves in a place where others understand what they are going through. To get answers to questions to questions on the particular subject of the board. To seek out new friends. The list goes on...
Yet, it seems that, no matter what the subject of the bulletin board, forum or chat group, there are always those who, TO ME, seem to have the wrong understanding of the purpose of the board.
I have read through, made replies and asked questions during the past week that I have been on the board. During that time I have had seen people give wrong information and make statements contrary to the writings of the author of DANDR.
I've seen people's comments that ranged from polite, friendly and helpful to downright rude, hateful and wrong.
While I want those who have been on the side of the scale from moderately neutral all the way to polite, friendly and helpful to understand how much I appreciate their past, present and future contributions on behalf of those, like me, who come along and decide to sign on the the Atkins Plan, this thread IS NOT about you. So please do not take this as such.
My concern is about those who lean towards the rude, hateful and wrong side of the scale all the way to those who make up the base line for the category.
I've seen comments that, as I read them, are downright mean spirited. They are ended with comments like "If I seem hard, it's because I've been there." Or, I have seen statements like "I don't mean to be rude, but..."
The problem with the word "but" in statements like those is they cancel out the first part of the statement AND let you know that the speaker,,,IS ABOUT TO BE RUDE!
I had one member here, listed as an ADBB Admiral (yes they will probably figure out who I am talking about) say in a thread the testing your ketones with strips may give you a false reading caused by the glucose in your urine.
This is blatantly and scientifically FALSE! When challenged on the statement blew it off. When it was explained that Keto Stix DO NOT test for glucose, I repeat they do not react to glucose, the only response was a simple "yes."
For those advocates of the TOUGH LOVE philosophy, I recommend renting and watching the movie "Only the Lonely" (John Candy and Maureen O'Hara to see the effects of just telling it like it is.
Over the years I have had the opportunity to read 3 of Dr. Atkins books. I have had the opportunity to see interviews by him from the early 80s till not so long before his death. Not once, NOT A SINGLE TIME, do I recall reading him as mean, unfriendly or rude. Not one time do I recall seeing him on TV where he didn't have a smile on his face and a positive desire for those in need of his knowledge.
So why, would anybody use this bulletin board, designed to expand his work and his program, for the purpose of beating down anyone who is trying to succeed in changing their lifestyle, even if it done in the spirit of "hard truth."
I would guess that the MAJORITY of the members on this board are here because they were, or are seeking a better, more healthier lifestyle. Some started with less of a challenge while others come with life threatening health issues and/or morbid obesity. (I am one of the more serious, health wise.)
For all, I would ask as you make your entries to the newbies of the group and to those simply asking questions to fine tune their personal program, that you write your reply, then go back and read it and ask yourself, if someone spoke to me this way would I be more likely to abandon the plan, abandon the board, cry or punch you in the nose. Then either hit "Submit" or go back and modify the entry to make it more "User Friendly."
Absolutely everyone who feels they don't look good in their own skin, who don't feel good in the daily lives are already experiencing conditions that can result in depression, sensitive and self conscious, they can feel trapped and alone. So why would anyone having success with Atkins intentionally do anything that might force them to abandon their efforts to save themselves, run from this board back to the bad habits of their previously unsuccessful life style, or just feel like they were unnecessarily abused?
Those who have had success making the change to Atkins, owe the good Dr. for providing a way to change their own lives for the better. So use what you have learned to help those just getting started to make the same lifesaving change.
For those whose comments bring hope and a little sunshine to members who might be unable to get their Atkins plan kicked in or those who might have reached a sticking point. I offer a big THANKS!
To those who do not, my suggestion is to increase your fiber, put a smile on your face and and rejoin the forum with a better attitude, or just learn to keep your comments to yourself! (Just telling it like it is!)
forbey











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