What's Diff Between Atkins Book?

[heatherhitz]

Someone said 2002 revolution would be the best and everyone talks about it on here but then someone told me to get the new book "Atkins for new you" & they told me 2002 is out of date... Is 2002 better then the newer one?

[MaxInMaximas]

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I'm pretty new to the books as well, but from what I've gathered from the board is that the 2002 version was written and approved by Dr. atkins himself. The newer version was published after his death by his wife/company/estate, and is more concerned commercial, and not as pureley concerned with the health/success of the diet ($$ )
They have snack products now like choc bars and shakes that have ingredients that don't seem to apply to many phases of the diet. Especially because it seems that these products are a common factor in weight loss "stalls", at least according to many members here.
I'm new too! This site is great, almost anything u need to know about Atkins is here
Happy low-carbing!

[heatherhitz]

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Thanks for clearing it up hun!!! I will be ordering the book 2002... Id rather have the one writin by him...

[Georgiana]

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Is 2002 better then the newer one?

There are some differences between them. For example, the 2010 plan requires that 12-15 net carbs out of 20 come from vegetables, during Induction. In the new plan, when you move to OWL, you are not required to add 5 net carbs of vegetables, but you can start with nuts or berries. Another difference is that in the new plan all Induction-acceptable beverages count towards your minimum 64 oz of "liquid" and you're not required to drink a minimum of 64 oz of pure water.

The newer version was published after his death by his wife/company/estate

New Atkins for a New You was written by Dr. Eric Westman, Dr. Stephen Phinney and Dr. Jeff Volek. All three of them are well-known researchers of low carbohydrate diets. Dr. Westman's and Dr. Volek's research has been focused mainly on the Atkins Nutritional Approach.

is more concerned commercial

Why do you think that?

They have snack products now like choc bars and shakes

DANDR 2002 had them, too.

that have ingredients that don't seem to apply to many phases of the diet

Most products contain ingredients which are, technically, not allowed during Induction. They would be allowed in OWL, Pre-Maintenance and Maintenance.

The "old" products, the ones Dr. Atkins talks about in DANDR 2002, also had non-Induction ingredients.

Especially because it seems that these products are a common factor in weight loss "stalls"

There's at least one warning (haven't finished reading the book yet) in the new book saying that products may interfere with weight loss. This warning is similar to the one that appeared in the FAQs on the Atkins website back when Dr. Atkins was running the Atkins Center.

[chinadoll]

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Thanks for the comparison Georgiana

[liv]

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I have read both books. But know 2002 works because I used it and I have lost weight. So I think it is important to follow one plan. And really stick to it. Here at ADBB we use Atkins' last book - 2002. I do not think it is outdated. I don't see how eating whole foods and cutting carbs can get outdated. It just rocks!!!!!

[Peytonn]

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I've got the 1999 one.. the yellow one.. and the 2002 one.. and both of them mentioned using atkins advantage bars and shakes and other stuff like that...

sometimes I compare the 2 of them just for fun...

I still don't have the brand new one yet..

[forbey]

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If you are intersested in getting the 2002 version. I've found 3 at used books sales at work and most used book stores have them for pennies on the dollar. I just ordered the Atkins Diabetes Revolution from Amazon/com for $.99 plus S&H, which was much lower than buying a new copy. They also have some of the other books put out by ANI, but I haven't done a price comparrison.

forbey

[atkinsgal08]

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>>The newer version was published after his death by his wife/company/estate,>>

Mrs. Atkins had nothing to do with the new book.

I doubt very much Dr. Atkins' estate had anything to do with it either.

[lowcarbing4ever]

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The 2002 DANDR is the best book because it is written by him, was preached by him, was lived by him. For me personally, I will never trust another book out of the Atkins facility. They always seem to be trying to alter his original plan which to me, seems a betrayal to his memory, since they know he would never agree to what they are doing now. Also, a lot of people don't know that Dr. A was never a fan of the shakes, bars, etc. He did them at the urging of his New York patients who complained that they needed things to get them thru the day because of their work schedules; they wanted something for on the go, so if they were in a crunch they could just have something quick. He resisted for years until his colleagues and patients finally convinced him to do it (i.e. wore him down). He even said this in an interview before (I wish I could find it), that he preferred if people just stuck to the basic plan and didn't use them but if they absolutely must, then ok but he cautioned not to do it too much. He did, however, believe in the vitamins, as I did. I wish they still sold them. I miss them, they were the best vitamins I ever purchased. They are so stupid, you would think they would still sell them; they were bigger sellers than the food products! I miss Dr. A, he could really give these "diet gurus" what-for and he never backed down! Okay, stepping off soap box!

[MaxInMaximas]

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Lol, oops, guess I got flamed a little bit! I guess I shouldn't have spoken/given advice about something I knew so little about (the newer books/ version of the diet). Thanks for clearing it up though.
About the bars and shakes, I just meant....basically what Lowcarbing4ever said, albeit less eloquently! On the website, they are said to be allowed 2x a day, with no mention of "probably not every day" or "may slow weightloss in some people" or anything like that.
Funny though, the first time I did Atkins I used both bars and shakes constantly and still lost a lot of weight quickly, and this time around I ate the same amount of them for the first 4 days of starting, and I'm pretty sure they stalled me. Scale didn't move, maybe even went up a pound! A soon as I cut them out, I started going down and went right into ketosis. Isn't it odd how much your body can change in just a year and a half?
Hehe, sorry about the digression and the misinformation!

[lowcarbing4ever]

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Oh no,no, no,no, sweetie! I was not trying to flame you at all! I am so sorry if that is what you thought! I was just saying, that's all. Please forgive me if you thought that I was flaming you, I wasn't, really. I just think its very important that people do the real book instead of that pseudo crap that the Atkins "factory" is trying to run on people to make it more "people friendly", i. e. to make money and I hate that they are taking advantage of people. Sorry!

[mizski]

OT: Atkins vitamins

He did, however, believe in the vitamins, as I did. I wish they still sold them. I miss them, they were the best vitamins I ever purchased.

Vitacost makes their own version of the old Atkins Basic 3 multi. I like them a lot; I take 2/day rather than the suggested 3 though.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>people do the real book instead of that pseudo crap that the Atkins "factory" is trying to run on people to make it more "people friendly", i. e. to make money and I hate that they are taking advantage of people>>

Um ... if you've read the 2010 book, you'll find that it doesn't push the products at all.

And why shouldn't Atkins be explained in a "people friendly" way?

[liv]

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i think it pushes products. It suggests them as replacement for treats. It has them in the menu as meal replacements and as snacks on all levels. The books says we should avoid peanuts but tells us to eat snacks as in bars that are pretty much all peanuts. I am not saying the book is bad but I will be fine without the "the sexy science" and its "sweet success" products.