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  • #31
    Re: negative posters

    Originally posted by kline1972 View Post
    Trying to show other Atkins posters that negativity is not the way I want to do Atkins, and to try to be more positive. Why should people be afraid of this diet? It is a pretty simple diet. I don't see how I am being divisive.
    Is it not lost on you, that not everyone who contributed to this thead immediately agreed with you? That is how it is divisive.

    I respect that negativity is not the way you want to do Atkins. Who does? The point is - not everyone views the posts you find negative, as negative.


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    • #32
      Re: negative posters

      Originally posted by kline1972 View Post
      Why should people be afraid of this diet?
      This is a parallel argument. Your argument is that you perceive some long time posters here to be rude. This is irrespective of the diet.

      You never answered the previous questions as to why you just do not ignore people who's answers you do not approve of.
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      • #33
        Re: negative posters

        Excellent, Carne:

        A perfect example of what this thread is all about!

        This is a thread with a topic... so you change the topic?

        He is asking whay are people being rude... you responded to him...by being rude!

        You tell him if he doesn't like the conversation, don't read it... but you continue to add fuel to the fire. (Apparently, you don't like the conversation... yet you continue to read it!)

        This does nothing but support his original post. WHY ARE THEIR PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM WHO FEEL IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO BE NON-SUPPORTIVE AND NEGATIVE.

        Again, excellent demonstration of how NOT to respond to people in a SUPPORT forum!

        forbey


        Originally posted by Carne! View Post
        Kline,

        It is a tactic called "deflection". When someone doesn't want to talk about an uncomfortable subject they will change said subject.

        It is a little ironic that you're being a little rude yourself, no?


        If you don't think some of the poster's replies are appropriate why don't you just ignore them? Seems like a better idea than starting a Thread to Nowhere.

        It's not an inalienable right for the world to comply with an individual's arbitrary rules on what is a proper and improper reply to a question. Even on the interwebs!

        Carne sez relax.



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        • #34
          Re: negative posters

          Impossible to ignore certain people- they control almost every posting on this board

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          • #35
            Re: negative posters

            I'm singing in the rain, just singing in the rain, what a glorious feeeeeeling, Im happy again! LOL

            Alright,
            everyone has their views...lets drop it and move on




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            • #36
              Re: negative posters

              Excellent Mission,

              Another lovely example of defensive, sarcastic and rude responses to fend off a question of "why are some people here" rude.

              Tough love does NOT require rudeness, it does not require defensiveness.

              It is truely sad, but I guess the question hit too close to home for some people.

              Kline,

              It might be a good idea to conclude that there are those here who, do to their own feelings of inadequacy, feel they need to push others down to feel better about themselves.

              And then spend your time trying to lift up those who are feeling down, or who happened to be pushed down.

              forbey

              Originally posted by mission to lose View Post
              OH, I am so sorry, off topic?

              I will get back on topic and get out of here...the "tough love approach" has helped me lose 50# since August, and that has never happened in my life.
              YUP, some people were straight forward and weren't full of Sugary talk--- and didn't hold my hand. Thank you to them!!!

              Carry on!

              And everyone please go back and read my first post on this thread this morning, post #3. Spread the love!



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              • #37
                Re: negative posters

                I never asked anyone to reply or agree to this posting. I was just trying to make a point that certain people control this website with their vile attitudes. What kills me the most are people who constantly use !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • #38
                  Re: negative posters

                  Originally posted by forbey View Post
                  He is asking whay are people being rude... you responded to him...by being rude!
                  I didn't take it that way.

                  Originally posted by forbey View Post
                  You tell him if he doesn't like the conversation, don't read it... but you continue to add fuel to the fire.
                  And your comments don't add fuel to the fire?

                  C'mon people!!!! Put yourself in each others' shoes... we are all on the same team, here.

                  What is this bickering back and forth solving? (Other than being the perfect illustration that we are all different and need to be tolerant to each others' styles.)

                  Life is short! It's Friday!! Use your own discretion reading the posts... don't try to censor people, just because you don't like them.

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                  • #39
                    Re: negative posters

                    "Negativity" is in the eye of the beholder. I think it's too subjective for people to say what is and what isn't. On a forum such as this, we also lack the facial expressions and other social interactions that would go into a normal face to face conversation. Because of this, I normally default to believing people have the best of intentions when they respond to posts. Sometimes this comes across as strong and critical, but I've typically only seen constructive criticism and some "tough love" here.

                    It's been that criticism and tough love that taught me how to do this WOE correctly. It took that tough love to make me see that I couldn't just do this how I wanted and if I wanted to lose weight and get healthy, I better follow the recommendations here. Because they work!

                    I think some folks, myself included, get frustrated by people who come time and time again asking why Atkins isn't working, why they aren't losing weight fast enough, or stalled, etc. when they haven't done their homework of reading the book, reading the many resources and posts here, following the diet as Dr. Atkins said to, or think they can do it their own way. Yet folks here respond patiently time and again and try to help people.

                    I agree, if a way a person responds really bothers you, take it up with a moderator or ignore them.
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                    • #40
                      Re: negative posters

                      This is just part of being on a message board. I do see some that can attack others many times with no reason other than they want to. They do it in a passive agressive way so they can say I am just telling the truth, not being rude. But yes they are being rude, there is a big difference in being straight forward and crossing that bullying line. I do not believe it is just their posting style because if you read other posts of theirs you will see they can and are helpful and respectful most of the time. They just seem to target certain questions or posts and repeatedly go after it way beyond the helpful point.

                      BUT like I said it's part of a message board. No matter where you go you will see it. Nothing you say will change it. So move on and make sure if you see someone being a target you post an encouraging post so they know not everyone is that way. Be a positive example and IMO starting what you know will be a drama thread is not being a positive example that falls in that passive aggressive category just like the posters you say you are against.

                      Move on and do your part to make this a better community.
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                      • #41
                        Re: negative posters

                        This is a thread with a topic... so you change the topic?
                        I was answering a question that was asked by the OP. A clarification is different from a change of topic.

                        He is asking whay are people being rude... you responded to him...by being rude!
                        I was not being rude. I was merely stating a fact, that complaining about other posters also can come off as rude. Which it does.

                        You tell him if he doesn't like the conversation, don't read it... but you continue to add fuel to the fire. (Apparently, you don't like the conversation... yet you continue to read it!)
                        I said to ignore the posters, not the conversation. Your assumption is erroneous. I love a good argument, although unlike yourself, i am not emotionally involved.
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                        • #42
                          Re: negative posters

                          The discussion is "Why are some people here rude?" Simple enough.

                          I'm adding to the conversation because, not only do I find the conversation relevant, current and interesting, but I also agree with him.

                          Which is most likely why I am also being encouraged to be SILENT!

                          Right is right, wrong is wrong. Whether it is in tough love or pointing out inconsistencies in points of discussion. EVERYONE HERE SHOULD BE SUPPORTIVE!

                          Not offnesive!

                          forbey



                          Move Yer Bloomin Arse Challenge
                          Entering the Nuclear Arms Race,
                          One Rep at a Time!


                          Max Weight - Feb 2009 - 354
                          (Pre-Atkins weight loss 64 lbs, stalled in Dec 2009)
                          Re-started Atkins: Feb 2010 * 290 lbs

                          Get blood sugars to normal and under control. April 18, 2010 (1st time EVER w/o the help of Insulin!)
                          Next Goal: 280!

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                          • #43
                            Re: negative posters

                            Originally posted by forbey View Post
                            Excellent Mission,

                            Another lovely example of defensive, sarcastic and rude responses to fend off a question of "why are some people here" rude.
                            I see it as another example of being taken the wrong way!

                            Originally posted by forbey View Post
                            It might be a good idea to conclude that there are those here who, do to their own feelings of inadequacy, feel they need to push others down to feel better about themselves. And then spend your time trying to lift up those who are feeling down, or who happened to be pushed down.
                            Why all of this psycho-analyzing about the member behind the post? As I implied earlier - there is no way for you to know the background and life experiences of each poster, so that you can accurately surmise the premise from which each post comes.

                            Just read each post, and TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.


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                            • #44
                              Re: negative posters

                              "I was just trying to make a point that certain people control this website with their vile attitudes."

                              Is anyone forcing you to stay?
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                              • #45
                                Re: negative posters

                                Pooh you are 100 percent correct- They do this repeatedly

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